The Upcoming Dalit Uprising

[shravan]

Caste system now does not make sense but in the earlier days when there was no electricity or technology made lot of sense.

If there was not Caste system then we would have killed each other like in the other parts of the world.

I am against Caste System now in Cities but i don't have any problem if it is followed in remote villages where there is no electricity/education.

Because of Caste system we were more advanced than any other country during that time. Eg. A Doctor sons always became a doctor. So he practiced from a young age. And that applied to everyone. So everyone mastered in their own job.

 

[Developereo]

^^So then stop talking and post some links already, lets see where you're getting your information from.

Why do you embarrass yourself by making unsubstantiated, nonsensical claims?

lets see if you can back up a word of the garbage you posted earlier.

(edit: Sikhs are a minority by the way )

Do the google search I recommended, my good man.
There are too many hits to list here.
Warning: You may not like what you see.

I don't like to dwell on this matter because I like Hinduism.
I have many Hindu friends and even Hindu family (intermarriage).
But the fact remains that everybody has skeletons in the closet, even Hinduism.

Time to move forward.

 

[Shaheen767]

You know that article is by my father?

 

[Spitfighter]

^^ No way!

Moin Ansari is your father?

 

[Spitfighter]

Do the google search I recommended, my good man.
There are too many hits to list here.
Warning: You may not like what you see.

I don't like to dwell on this matter because I like Hinduism.
I have many Hindu friends and even Hindu family (intermarriage).
But the fact remains that everybody has skeletons in the closet, even Hinduism.

Time to move forward.

This has nothing to do with you liking or disliking Hinduism, not that it matters anyways. For the record I'm technically Christian.

I actually tried the search, didn't come up with anything as sinister as your earlier post suggested.

Why don't you give us a link or two? you had so many hits as it is, copy paste a couple.

substantiate your claim my good man, is that too much to ask?

 

[Righteous_Fire]

Some links on the India wide massacres of the Dalits and the caste bias and hate directed towards them

State wise Dalit Massacres

Caste-related violence in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[GreenYouth] Re: What a Gandhiwadi Brahmin woman says to a Dalit Woman.

Indian Dalit Muslims Voice (IDMV): “Mayawati should be raped.” Says, Rita Bahuguna Joshi

The 'Righteous Anger' of the PowerlessInvestigating Dalit Outrage over Caste Violence

Economics behind dalits massacre: Bhalchandra Mungekar — OneWorld South Asia Home

The Hindu : Education Plus : The bias continues

 

[Righteous_Fire]

Some links related to Buddhist outrage and Buddhist massacres by fundamentalist Hindus :

Kherlanji Buddhist Massacre: Accused Granted bail Atrocity News

Chowk: History: Were Buddhists and Jains Persecuted in Ancient India?

Buddhist Channel | Buddhism News, Headlines | India | INDIA: Reviving Buddhism Where It Was Born

christiancouncil.in - Hope for India's 'broken' Buddhists

How Brahmins killed Buddhism in India? Super Hindus around the globe

 

[Nemesis]

What a waste of bandwidth. Sanction India because it doesn't abolish caste system? Yeah sure, ..........wait a sec, didn't we abolish it in 1947?

Perhaps our noble humanists from across the border should care more about the discrimination that exists in their nations - the riots in China, the homes of Christians burnt in Pakistan - instead of lamenting the fate of the so called lower castes in India. Just a suggestion.

 

[gpit]

I have not personally witnessed such discriminations,as i have not been to that many places in india...,...but in my state,west bengal,i feel proud to say such discrimination are close to null and i have seen none sofar....,....the communist govt in west bengal in power since the last 30 yrs have reduced such deceases with great effect....,even the opposition parties here are very much active against such cruelties here....,..

I dare to dispute this with my (limited) personal experiences.

1. I personally met with an Indian of pious Hinduism, who prays in regular intervals (he told me the intervals but I forgot. He also showed me his bi-lingual prayer book). When I picked up the topic carefully on Caste, he vehemently condemned the Dalits, telling me that they are born inferior. He backed up his arguments with his own observation, saying that GOI spent a lot of money and gave them a lot of programs to support them, but they failed in nearly every place due to their stupidity.

2. I was mingled myself with a group of Indians and heard their leader openly making fun of one of their fellow Indians in a way that is surely very uncomfortable in American standard. The leader basically called him “bengales” and many (not all) of the Indians laughed at the target in chorus. By his name, the target was probably a Christian.

I agree I have only limited contact with Indians in America, and most of them are not bad guys, and I don’t have statistical number to assert or deny anything conclusively. But I can feel that stuff does exist among Indians.

I’d say Caste is a tradition among many Indians. Even GoI apparently tries to do something, interest groups won’t let go so easily. In addition, just like bribery is a tradition in many Asia countries and is difficult to get rid of, complete removal of Caste mentality needs generations of efforts. The thing that bothers is that what if elected officials are pro-caste because they are the ones that are influential, and interest-wise the existence of submissive cheap labors is to their advantage (in short term).

 

[gpit]

What a waste of bandwidth. Sanction India because it doesn't abolish caste system? Yeah sure, ..........wait a sec, didn't we abolish it in 1947?

Perhaps our noble humanists from across the border should care more about the discrimination that exists in their nations - the riots in China, the homes of Christians burnt in Pakistan - instead of lamenting the fate of the so called lower castes in India. Just a suggestion.

The riots in China, the homes of Christians burnt in Pakistan, ...and even more, do not justify inhuman caste practice in India in the slightest sense.

Hope you are mature enough to realize that.

 

[gpit]

Caste system now does not make sense but in the earlier days when there was no electricity or technology made lot of sense.

If there was not Caste system then we would have killed each other like in the other parts of the world.

I am against Caste System now in Cities but i don't have any problem if it is followed in remote villages where there is no electricity/education.

Because of Caste system we were more advanced than any other country during that time. Eg. A Doctor sons always became a doctor. So he practiced from a young age. And that applied to everyone. So everyone mastered in their own job.

Why would absence of electricity justify Caste practice?

Is it a sign of advance or backwardness if a foolish doctor's son can be a doctor, but a wise Dalit's son can't be a doctor?

Overwhelmingly majority of our (normal people)wisdom is acquired post-natal.

 

[humblehobbes]

Why would absence of electricity justify Caste practice?

Is it a sign of advance or backwardness if a foolish doctor's son can be a doctor, but a wise Dalit's son can't be a doctor?

Overwhelmingly majority of our (normal people)wisdom is acquired post-natal.

Caste system exists. its there and its real. anyone who denies it is a fool. People are still discriminated to some extent. atleast in the hearts of people. There is also another form of casteism. People who are not SC/ST's are discriminated in the sense that they are denied government jobs and getting into top notch institutions is very difficult. Any Indian who says that Caste system is non existent is lying thru his teeth

 

[shravan]

Why would absence of electricity justify Caste practice?

i think i wrote electricity/education

Is it a sign of advance or backwardness if a foolish doctor's son can be a doctor, but a wise Dalit's son can't be a doctor?

Didn't that make sense 2000 year back ? I am not talking about it now.
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[muslim282]

Dalit men should marry brahmin women and vice versa, that way all discrimination will be finished.

 

[paritosh]

Caste system now does not make sense but in the earlier days when there was no electricity or technology made lot of sense.

If there was not Caste system then we would have killed each other like in the other parts of the world.

I am against Caste System now in Cities but i don't have any problem if it is followed in remote villages where there is no electricity/education.

Because of Caste system we were more advanced than any other country during that time. Eg. A Doctor sons always became a doctor. So he practiced from a young age. And that applied to everyone. So everyone mastered in their own job.

shravan mate...it was bad even a thousand years ago...
what about the lower caste people....we all know what they had to go through for generations...
and it's not necessary that a doctor's son would be a good doctor or that no one else can fill his shoes...