The United Bitches of America

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We did the exact same thing. Have you forgotten about all the conquests Muslims have done?

Wealth from the New World, colonies in Africa/Asia, and industrialized slavery (free labor) is what led to the quick advance of European powers.

Direct trade with the East and Africa cut out the Muslim middle man, destroying our niche, and our internal infighting caused our destruction.

Allama Iqbal RAA lamented it his whole life. The Muslim soul had been crushed and in its place a tyrannical world order oppressed the whole world.

 

[Hamza913]

idk it depends what your madhab is

My answer is not madhab dependant.

some Muslim scholars

You're glossing over how highly respected Imam Al Qurtubi is.

 

[Philip the Arab]

My answer is not madhab dependant.



You're glossing over how highly respected Imam Al Qurtubi is.

You don't trust Bukhari or Muslim? They are much more trusted and respected than Imam Al Qurtubi.

 

[Hamza913]

You don't trust Bukhari or Muslim?

You clearly didn't read my source properly. Imam Al Qurtubi and others are not rejecting the ahadith on the matter, they are giving another way to interpret them that also makes sense.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

You don't trust Bukhari or Muslim?

In Jordan, Petra there are structures and huge steps that people need to climb over with their whole bodies to move from one step to the next that lead to the conclusion that giants once roamed the earth.

 

[Nein]

We did the exact same thing. Have you forgotten about all the conquests Muslims have done?



That's just one opinion, my source provides another that is also supported by Imams, most notably Imam Al Qurtubi.

Muslim Conquests and European colonialism are not the same.

If so the Arabs or the Turks would be the most richest and successful if they exploited the various peoples they ruled along with its resources.

People need to stop mixing Colonialism with classic conquests done by the Turks, Arabs, Romans and the Mongols.

They are not one and the same.

 

[Philip the Arab]

You clearly didn't read my source properly. Imam Al Qurtubi and others are not rejecting the ahadith on the matter, they are giving another way to interpret them that also makes sense.

How about we agree to disagree, since Bukhari is more widely trusted, and his hadith's are more popular. I'm going to have to take the popular opinion which I'm sure that most trusted scholars worth their salt pretty much anywhere would agree with. It sounds way more believable in Al Qurtubi's viewpoint but you have to understand that they did this to make it more believable that considering that Adam was this tall.

• taller than six standard London buses piled on top of each other;
• taller than 5 adult male giraffes standing on each others heads (not, admittedly, a tenable position for giraffic yoga);
• taller than a blue whale balancing (precariously) on its tail;
• twice as tall as a Brachiosaurus;
• taller than the height of Buckingham Palace or the White House.

It doesn't make sense theologically hence why the meaning was twisted, it happened with a lot of hadiths over the past 1400+ years.
To avoid this theologically inanity, some Muslim scholars have suggested that God made Adam this height in Paradise, but then shrunk him to a more reasonable size when depositing him on Earth.

In Jordan, Petra there are structures and huge steps that people need to climb over with their whole bodies to move from one step to the next that lead to the conclusion that giants once roamed the earth.

@Taimur Khurram
Haven't thought about that. But why is the door so small?

If they were 20 feet tall I could imagine it. Construction wouldn't be that hard and the doorway makes sense.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

In Jordan, Petra there are structures and huge steps that people need to climb over with their whole bodies to move from one step to the next that lead to the conclusion that giants once roamed the earth.

Adam’s Peak and footprint, Adam’s bridge, and numerous other examples.

 

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@Dewaneh science fact needed please

do humans smell because of either their diets, or their genetics?

It depends on what you mean by smell. If you are talking about body scent then it would be exclusively genetics.

 

[Philip the Arab]

If Allah can make a human this small at about 5-6 inches long.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/science/ata-mummy-alien-chile.html

Allah can make a human 90 feet tall.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

It depends on what you mean by smell. If you are talking about body scent then it would be exclusively genetics.

Makes sense, thanks!

If Allah can make a human this small at about 5-6 inches long.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/science/ata-mummy-alien-chile.html

Allah can make a human 90 feet tall.

Fascinating and very cool, somethings are just unexplainable !

@Dewaneh How are you? what do you think of the convo

 

[@@@]

Makes sense, thanks!



Fascinating and very cool, somethings are just unexplainable !

@Dewaneh How are you? what do you think of the convo

Fine thanks for asking. I just saw this photograph and have no words. I find it quite disturbing and scary in fact.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

Fine thanks for asking. I just saw this photograph and have no words. I find it quite disturbing and scary in fact.

well, i'm sure if the alien in chili doesn't tickle your fancy, then a lovely curry with chilli might

but, be careful too much freedom with hormones can lead to an unexpected dose of feminism

 

[terry5]

True

I don't know many but I kind of agree on that. Whats weird is that Pakistanis in America all give off a certain type of odor but I can't tell what it is. If you look Arab and I smell you I could usually tell if your Pakistani. Like no joke, every time at the Masjid when I walk past a Pakistani I smell something weird. No offence though I'm just letting something off my chest. I personally think its either their diets, or their genetics.[/QUOTE]

Your smelling big kahunas

It’s called big balls something Arabs don’t know about .

 

[James David]

This makes me gag.

WTF!??!