The UAE is the first partner and customer of the fifth generation Checkmate aircraft

[ProudPak]

US can be kicked out of bases just like the Italians were if they want to make a fit.

Italian forces kicked out of Middle East base over UAE arms embargo, lawmaker says

The United Arab Emirates is evicting Italian aircraft and personnel from a key military base in retaliation for an arms embargo slapped on the UAE by Rome in January, an Italian politician has told Defense News.

www.defensenews.com

Loooool that's the best joke I have heard all day. Yoh made my day

 

[White and Green with M/S]

That is a flawed view of how geopolitics work.

Flawed or not but they are controlling UAE's economy, and tell me how can they kick out USA, please explain, do they have any guts to do that

 

[Philip the Arab]

Flawed or not but they are controlling UAE's economy, and tell me how can they kick out USA, please explain, do they have any guts to do that

They kicked out the Italians which are a major country with huge influence.

It's not likely to happen as long as UAE gets what it needs.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

They kicked out the Italians which are a major country with huge influence.

Italy has minimal assets in middle east and how can they kick out superpower, if they will do US will imposed hardest sanctions on UAE, be real don't live in your fairy tales

 

[Philip the Arab]

Italy has minimal assets in middle east and how can they kick out superpower, if they will do US will imposed hardest sanctions on UAE, be real don't live in your fairy tales

It's not likely to happen either way, UAE has historically purchased North Korean, Chinese and Russian equipment for a while now.

I guess we shall see who is right in the next few years.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It's not likely to happen either way, UAE has historically purchased North Korean, Chinese and Russian equipment for a while now.

I guess we shall see who is right in the next few years.

Lol tell me which Chinese/ Russian/ North Korean military tech are UAE using?? lol don't live in your delusional

 

[Philip the Arab]

Lol tell me which Chinese/ Russian/ North Korean military tech are UAE using?? lol don't live in your delusional

Pantsir and BMP-3 from Russia, artillery and UAVs from China, ballistic missiles from North Korea at one point.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Pantsir and BMP-3 from Russia, artillery and UAVs from China, ballistic missiles from North Korea at one point.

lol i mean major Does F16 is Chinese and Mirage 2000/9 is Russian tech??

 

[ProudPak]

They kicked out the Italians which are a major country with huge influence.

It's not likely to happen as long as UAE gets what it needs.

Italians are no bodies....when was the last time Italy did anything. Useless lemons like the Indian

 

[The SC]

Actually I do believe what I am writing, why would I write otherwise. UAE is deeply in the US camp and this issue is not big enough for the UAE to hurt its relationship with the US. Yes they are independent, but the UAE is a very practical group, and I dont see a Russian acquisition being important enough to hurt US relationship especially when the US is likely to make the F35 available for them. Like I said only way this is happening is if the UAE convinces the US and buys the project outright, or gets into some co-development path. As a pure commercial deal to buy from Russia, that is not going to happen.

It is already a joint venture..

 

[The SC]

Italy has minimal assets in middle east and how can they kick out superpower, if they will do US will imposed hardest sanctions on UAE, be real don't live in your fairy tales

France is making the Rafale and other Europeans are making the Typhoon, both these fighter planes re direct competition to US fighter planes.. and Europe is still buying the F-35 and being partners in its production.. have you seen any sanctions from the US..

 

[ProudPak]

France is making the Rafale and other Europeans are making the Typhoon, both these fighter planes re direct competition to US fighter planes.. and Europe is still buying the F-35 and being partners in its production.. have you seen any sanctions from the US..

Yes but Europe is US allies. Russia is considered an enemy

 

[Wilhelm II]

Why any reason??, look at Turkey, they were in the program of developing F35 if hey impose CAASTA on Turkey why not on UAE

That was about nato data not caasta

 

[Lincoln]

July-22nd-2021

The unveiling of the ‘Checkmate’ stealth fighter in the lead up to the MAKS 2021 international aerospace show, which opened on July 20th, led to widespread speculation regarding which countries may be considered leading clients for the aircraft. The aircraft represents only the world’s second single engine post-fourth generation fighter to be unveiled, following the American F-35, and will serve as a lighter counterpart to the Su-57 with lower maintenance requirements and much cheaper operational costs. It is the lightest fifth generation fighter yet to be seen anywhere in the world, and unlike the Su-57 it is oriented primarily towards export markets with its development gaining no government funds contributing towards its development. While the investment in a fighter so heavily geared towards export markets is unusual - particularly unless some of the leading possible clients are given inputs into the design as was seen with China’s export-oriented JF-17 developed for Pakistan - the CEO of Russia’s state arms exporter Rostec reportedly confirmed at MAKS 2021 that the aircraft already had a foreign buyer.

A report from a source close to the Russian defence industry, who asked to remain anonymous, has stated that the Checkmate's mystery client is in fact the United Arab Emirates - a country highlighted in the fighter's promotional video as a leading potential operator. The new Russian stealth fighter was reportedly developed with inputs from the UAE, much like the JF-17 was developed with inputs from Pakistan, to meet its needs and secure it as a financer and purchaser. Although the source’s statement could not be independently verified, it remains highly possible that it is indeed the case. In February 2017 Russia and the UAE announced the beginning of a joint program to develop a next generation fighter with stealth capabilities that would enter service after 2025 - with the Checkmate scheduled to be ready in 2026. The announcement was made at the IDEX 2017 arms trade show in Abu Dhabi, and it was speculated that the result could be either a derivative of the MiG-35 or Su-35 with stealth features, much like the American F-15SE Silent Eagle, or an entirely new aircraft like the Checkmate.

Russia’s development and unveiling of a new fighter class for export without a confirmed client would be a major risk, which is why the report that the Checkmate is indeed the result of the Russia-UAE project makes sense. Of all the countries speculated to show an interest in the fighter, Abu Dhabi is best positioned to have financed and committed to the program. In addition, with no report that the Russia-UAE program was cancelled, its would be highly unusual for Russia to develop the Checkmate for export highlighting the UAE as a leading client while at the same time developing another next generation lightweight fighter jointly with the Arab country. The United Arab Emirates currently fields six fighter squadrons of fourth generation single engine fighters each around 20 strong, including three each of the ageing French Mirage 2000 and relatively modern F-16E Desert Falcon. It is expected that the Mirages will be replaced by 50 F-35s, while the F-16s could be replaced by the Checkmate. This would allow the country to avoid over-reliance on a single country or set of armaments for its next generation fighters. As France is not expected to ever develop a post-fourth generation fighter independently, with the ‘4+ generation’ Rafale being its last fully indigenous manned fighter, Russia will effectively take its place in the fifth generation to meet the UAE's needs alongside the United States.


https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/sukhoi-light-stealth-jet-russia-uae-joint-program-report

Wasn't Mig working on some project for a 5th generation light fighter jet? Did they end it then if Sukhoi is initiating this?

July-22nd-2021

The unveiling of the ‘Checkmate’ stealth fighter in the lead up to the MAKS 2021 international aerospace show, which opened on July 20th, led to widespread speculation regarding which countries may be considered leading clients for the aircraft. The aircraft represents only the world’s second single engine post-fourth generation fighter to be unveiled, following the American F-35, and will serve as a lighter counterpart to the Su-57 with lower maintenance requirements and much cheaper operational costs. It is the lightest fifth generation fighter yet to be seen anywhere in the world, and unlike the Su-57 it is oriented primarily towards export markets with its development gaining no government funds contributing towards its development. While the investment in a fighter so heavily geared towards export markets is unusual - particularly unless some of the leading possible clients are given inputs into the design as was seen with China’s export-oriented JF-17 developed for Pakistan - the CEO of Russia’s state arms exporter Rostec reportedly confirmed at MAKS 2021 that the aircraft already had a foreign buyer.

A report from a source close to the Russian defence industry, who asked to remain anonymous, has stated that the Checkmate's mystery client is in fact the United Arab Emirates - a country highlighted in the fighter's promotional video as a leading potential operator. The new Russian stealth fighter was reportedly developed with inputs from the UAE, much like the JF-17 was developed with inputs from Pakistan, to meet its needs and secure it as a financer and purchaser. Although the source’s statement could not be independently verified, it remains highly possible that it is indeed the case. In February 2017 Russia and the UAE announced the beginning of a joint program to develop a next generation fighter with stealth capabilities that would enter service after 2025 - with the Checkmate scheduled to be ready in 2026. The announcement was made at the IDEX 2017 arms trade show in Abu Dhabi, and it was speculated that the result could be either a derivative of the MiG-35 or Su-35 with stealth features, much like the American F-15SE Silent Eagle, or an entirely new aircraft like the Checkmate.

Russia’s development and unveiling of a new fighter class for export without a confirmed client would be a major risk, which is why the report that the Checkmate is indeed the result of the Russia-UAE project makes sense. Of all the countries speculated to show an interest in the fighter, Abu Dhabi is best positioned to have financed and committed to the program. In addition, with no report that the Russia-UAE program was cancelled, its would be highly unusual for Russia to develop the Checkmate for export highlighting the UAE as a leading client while at the same time developing another next generation lightweight fighter jointly with the Arab country. The United Arab Emirates currently fields six fighter squadrons of fourth generation single engine fighters each around 20 strong, including three each of the ageing French Mirage 2000 and relatively modern F-16E Desert Falcon. It is expected that the Mirages will be replaced by 50 F-35s, while the F-16s could be replaced by the Checkmate. This would allow the country to avoid over-reliance on a single country or set of armaments for its next generation fighters. As France is not expected to ever develop a post-fourth generation fighter independently, with the ‘4+ generation’ Rafale being its last fully indigenous manned fighter, Russia will effectively take its place in the fifth generation to meet the UAE's needs alongside the United States.


https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/sukhoi-light-stealth-jet-russia-uae-joint-program-report

I think the USA might weigh in on the UAE to drop the initiative and withdraw support.

It's not likely to happen either way, UAE has historically purchased North Korean, Chinese and Russian equipment for a while now.

I guess we shall see who is right in the next few years.

How many of them have been as significant as this though? Guns, uniforms, artillery and vehicles don't really invoke US sanctions. It's the big deals like the S400, and in this case, funding Russia for the development of an entirely new 5th generation fighter which it could not fund itself. That's a pretty big deal.

 

[The SC]

Wasn't Mig working on some project for a 5th generation light fighter jet? Did they end it then if Sukhoi is initiating this?


I think the USA might weigh in on the UAE to drop the initiative and withdraw support.


How many of them have been as significant as this though? Guns, uniforms, artillery and vehicles don't really invoke US sanctions. It's the big deals like the S400, and in this case, funding Russia for the development of an entirely new 5th generation fighter which it could not fund itself. That's a pretty big deal.

Mig and Sukhoi both were merged in what is called Rostec

The US has no say in International Joint Ventures..