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The Turkish Navy Superior To The Russian Black Sea Fleet ?

Thats why I said stop posting, too many irrevelant flaming posts.
 
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Wrong....

Tatar Turks conquered moscow and burned it, so you are double wrong..

First Tatar Turks reached Moscow, secondly it was in flames... thirdly Slavics had to pay tribute to us for centuries

Did your Turkish media show you what happened in Reyhanli?

Take a look:
 
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hunnic empire was not islamic .And I doubt your (turkey) conventional capability will suffice for russia.Second ottomans never conquered russia unless you are talking the tengri golden horde.again mongols were followers of tengrism not islam. and russia conquered central asia and mongolia too .
It doesn't matter if they were muslim or not. And we dont only have to talk about the ottomans. That was just a government not a whole people. The russians have had several governments in the past 100 years.
 
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russians always hated turks. read any old russian literature, somehow their anti turk hatred comes out. i was reading brothers karamazov and in several parts of the book, turks are demonized and made to look like monsters who kill babies for fun.
 
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It doesn't matter if they were muslim or not. And we dont only have to talk about the ottomans. That was just a government not a whole people. The russians have had several governments in the past 100 years.

Muslims turks and tengri turk/mongol totally different. If turks were following tengrism ,they would have still ruling the world. The mongol tengri empire was secular .Islam was the reason why Turks ultimately became so weak.
 
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Muslims turks and tengri turk/mongol totally different. If turks were following tengrism ,they would have still ruling the world. The mongol tengri empire was secular .Islam was the reason why Turks ultimately became so weak.
True and not true. Turks conquered all worthy part of India under Moghul Empire. Hindu didn't conquer anything. They are busy with cows and stuff. Not violent enough. You are right on one thing Muslims didn't adopt industrialization and stopped technologic advancements for the sake of "that is god's business".
 
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True and not true. Turks conquered all worthy part of India under Moghul Empire. Hindu didn't conquer anything. They are busy with cows and stuff. Not violent enough. You are right on one thing Muslims didn't adopt industrialization and stopped technologic advancements for the sake of "that is god's business".
But that was a wrong interpretation of islam. Look at the islamic golden age. At that time the muslims were #1 in everything including military. Any way this is off topic.
 
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True and not true. Turks conquered all worthy part of India under Moghul Empire. Hindu didn't conquer anything.
The Indian empires have been huge empires in their own right, comprising what is today India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh.Massive territory.

They are busy with cows and stuff. Not violent enough.
But overall you are right. They did not sustain. It is true, we are not violent enough and that has been a reason for concern.
Fortunately, things are changing now. India and Indians are becoming more aggressive.
 
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True and not true. Turks conquered all worthy part of India under Moghul Empire. Hindu didn't conquer anything. They are busy with cows and stuff. Not violent enough. You are right on one thing Muslims didn't adopt industrialization and stopped technologic advancements for the sake of "that is god's business".

you should check the mauryan empire .
 
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True and not true. Turks conquered all worthy part of India under Moghul Empire. Hindu didn't conquer anything. They are busy with cows and stuff. Not violent enough. You are right on one thing Muslims didn't adopt industrialization and stopped technologic advancements for the sake of "that is god's business".

In the age of the sword your brutality and violence helped you to conquer some land, but in modern times your backward anti science teachings will only lead to your ultimate downfall. :tup:

ups i mean :tdown:
 
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True and not true. Turks conquered all worthy part of India under Moghul Empire. Hindu didn't conquer anything. They are busy with cows and stuff. Not violent enough. You are right on one thing Muslims didn't adopt industrialization and stopped technologic advancements for the sake of "that is god's business".

turks would have lost it quickly also if it was not for Akbar's secular policies .Look at what happened to mughal empire under Aurangzeb when he started forcing islam on majority population.
 
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