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THE TURKISH ARMY, A GIANT WITH CLAY FEET

No official is claiming anything in that article, its about an unknown newspaper called ''Yeni Söz'' that i have never heard of making that claim.


Yeah its even more hilarious.

Whats hilarious is your deflection of a newspaper known to be close to Erdogan. and also how you think you can Invade germany in 3 days with their own tanks!! Honestly I've heard dumb stuff from Iran but its nothing compared to the crazyness in Turkey.
 
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Whats hilarious is your deflection of a newspaper known to be close to Erdogan. and also how you think you can Invade germany in 3 days with their own tanks!! Honestly I've heard dumb stuff from Iran but its nothing compared to the crazyness in Turkey.
Kosovo will be able to invade Germany in 3 days... if she keeps sinking her army even more...
 
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Whats hilarious is your deflection of a newspaper known to be close to Erdogan. and also how you think you can Invade germany in 3 days with their own tanks!! Honestly I've heard dumb stuff from Iran but its nothing compared to the crazyness in Turkey.
Your gonna clinge on that unknown newspaper claims?
Well, Iranian media has been posting photoshopped pictures of Iranian weapons which were laughing stock in this very forum not long ago, look at your own backyard and dont push it further.
 
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THE TURKISH ARMY, A GIANT WITH CLAY FEET
FEBRUARY 20, 2018 STRATEGIKA51


The second NATO Army, backed by local proxy forces on the ground, wades for a month in front of a small border enclave defended by a militia for the control of 12% of the locality. The Turkish Army is not really what it was in Gallipoli.

The battle for control of Afrin in Syria has just confirmed the mismanagement within the Turkish armed forces since the failed coup against President Erdogan and the terrible purges that decimated the Turkish military elites.

Using F-16 fighter jets, German-made Leopard 2 tanks and the US-designed M-60 alongside the rebels of the Free Syrian Army franchise, the Turks were unable to storm a small enclave. Border located a stone's throw from their territory and this does not prevent Erdogan to threaten Damascus with an invasion to Homs (central Syria) if Syrian troops would ever help the YPG defending Afrin or walk triumphantly on Minbej where are stationed American forces supposedly allied.

Turkey has a very rich and impressive military history, especially when it was the metropolis of the Ottoman Empire. However, the current Turkish Army appears to be a giant with clay feet, suffering from a clear deficiency in command and leadership.

Certainly, even in the state, this Army can easily gain the upper hand in the event of a possible confrontation with a Syrian Army drained and worn out by seven years of total war, but at the price of a general mobilization, the employment of four to five complete divisions and the acceptance of heavy losses by Ankara.

By relying exclusively on intelligence and police forces to weaken the Army, Erdogan strengthened his internal power but lost the military tool. The case of Afrin is the illustration.

The purges within the armed forces have always disrupted the military command and precipitated defeats in the event of conflict.

In 193p, a Red Army that suffered from Stalin's purges proved incapable of overcoming the tenacity of the Finns, raising the astonishment of a Germany that decided to invade the USSR a year and a half later.
BS from french how not surprising France24 is full of anti turkish BS
 
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Kosovo will be able to invade Germany in 3 days... if she keeps sinking her army even more...
Lol Germany is a world industrial powerhouse matched only by a select few world powers out there. In case of a full scale war, there is no country in the middle east who can stand against them.. In fact even in Europe it will be hard for Britain and Frabce to do so, forget about the middmi east
You shouldn't confuse the industrial/military potebtial of a country who is at peace and faces no threat to its actual/current state of readiness. Germany doesn't have a large offensive military by lack of technology/capabilities (unlike other developing counties), its by choice and their past history . However in case of hypothetical war, the country can stand against world power if they really need to, mobilise their resources/industry and manpower to do so, since they have the technology and industrial capabilities to do that.

Whats hilarious is your deflection of a newspaper known to be close to Erdogan. and also how you think you can Invade germany in 3 days with their own tanks!! Honestly I've heard dumb stuff from Iran but its nothing compared to the crazyness in Turkey.
Lol I agree to some extent . However, Iran often makes similar silly remarks much more frequently than Turkey. :D
 
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Lol Germany is a world industrial powerhouse matched only by a select few world powers out there. In case of a full scale war, there is no country in the middle east who can stand against them.. In fact even in Europe it will be hard for Britain and Frabce to do so, forget about the middmi east
You shouldn't confuse the industrial/military potebtial of a country who is at peace and faces no threat to its actual/current state of readiness. Germany doesn't have a large offensive military by lack of technology/capabilities (unlike other developing counties), its by choice and their past history . However in case of hypothetical war, the country can stand against world power if they really need to, mobilise their resources/industry and manpower to do so, since they have the technology and industrial capabilities to do that.
Well... My post was in relation to Germany's army shape... Ofc I know Germany is powerful when times come...

But it's nice to have the industrial package behind you..;but when your army is becoming weaker and weaker... Then in the next war... having that package but no army...you will also fail...

If The next door guy, push to Berlin in few days and Francfort in few weeks...you can have the biggest industry...you ain't going to manufacture enough tanks/aircrafts/equipments ... in such short time...

Industry powerhouse...is for prolonged wars...
 
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turks are definitely on right track.... once you hold the peaks....cities will fall.... no need to bomb sh't out of local civil population
 
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Turks captured about 20% of mountain region inflicting very low civilian casualties:

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Assadists slaughtered over 300 civilians but did not advance even 1 meter so far.

This is really hilarious that mouthpiece of an occupying baby-killer Apartheid state is giving moral lessons about civilian losses. You killed 2300 people in Gaza in 50 days of war (average 46 people per day), flattened an entire neighborhood of Gaza and still couldn't advance an inch.

The stupidity of your comparison comes from the fact that you are comparing operation in a land filled with dense urban (Damascus suburbs) with a region with too many small villages and 3-4 larger than village towns, whose entire urban areas combined doesn't even get close to east Ghouta. SAA hasn't even tried to advance an inch in past days.

Let's compare another similar operation:

SAA captured a huge area in Idlib with more than 370 towns and villages in almost 2 months of operation, killing nearly 900 rebels/ISIS terrorists combined. The black area was captured in a result. So yes, when you don't face terrorists in a dense urban warfare, it's possible to advance in a rather logical pace given proper planning for the operation.

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This is really hilarious that mouthpiece of an occupying baby-killer Apartheid state is giving moral lessons about civilian losses. You killed 2300 people in Gaza in 50 days of war (average 46 people per day), flattened an entire neighborhood of Gaza and still couldn't advance an inch.

The stupidity of your comparison comes from the fact that you are comparing operation in a land filled with dense urban (Damascus suburbs) with a region with too many small villages and 3-4 larger than village towns, whose entire urban areas combined doesn't even get close to east Ghouta. SAA hasn't even tried to advance an inch in past days.

Let's compare another similar operation:

SAA captured a huge area in Idlib with more than 370 towns and villages in almost 2 months of operation, killing nearly 900 rebels/ISIS terrorists combined. The black area was captured in a result. So yes, when you don't face terrorists in a dense urban warfare, it's possible to advance in a rather logical pace given proper planning for the operation.

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Rebels retreated from That Idlib Pocket... Since it's in accordance with Astana agreement...
The only one they fought was the small ISIS pocket... But even this one, they didn't fought it till the end...they opened the door to let it flow on the Rebel side... FSA finished them of...

So,No...no need to give yourself flowers when it's not needed...

SAA and CIe are worthless, incompetent forces..;that need Airstrike supports 24/7 to advance..;otherwise it will be the Pre-RUssian intervention scenario...losing all their positions...or you already forget... in what shape was SAA before RU...
 
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This is really hilarious that mouthpiece of an occupying baby-killer Apartheid state is giving moral lessons about civilian losses -
You said it, but without realizing the significance of what you said.
 
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You said it, but without realizing the significance of what you said.
I, stand with his words too... and I understand... Israel is the same...
Same shit...different names...

I think... the proportion of your hate is equal to your similarities... when it comes to Hezbollah/ASSad/IR and Israel...
I'm still searching who is the father and the son...
 
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Rebels retreated from That Idlib Pocket... Since it's in accordance with Astana agreement...
The only one they fought was the small ISIS pocket... But even this one, they didn't fought it till the end...they opened the door to let it flow on the Rebel side... FSA finished them of...

Interesting...a retreat that took more than 2 months, killed 650 of them and also killed many SAA troops in the operation. You can't just lie so openly about something that happened 1 month ago.

You said it, but without realizing the significance of what you said.

That Israel is an occupier baby-killing Apartheid state? Well yes, I do realize the significance of it.
 
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Interesting...a retreat that took more than 2 months, killed 650 of them and also killed many SAA troops in the operation. You can't just lie so openly about something that happened 1 month ago.
Where did you see 650 FSA killed? I'm eager to see this...
What I remember...is FSA retreating with not much resistance... Even airstrikes weren't really used to take that pocket...
And no call from Rebels to make a resistance fronts...like they did previously in other fronts...where SAA/RU were advancing...
They left their positions...little by little... and it's not like they gonna hand it over freely without a bit of fight...
 
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This is really hilarious that mouthpiece of an occupying baby-killer Apartheid state is giving moral lessons about civilian losses. You killed 2300 people in Gaza in 50 days of war (average 46 people per day), flattened an entire neighborhood of Gaza and still couldn't advance an inch.
Actually we cut Gaza into 3 parts and captured several neighborhoods. No neighborhood was flattened, only small part of Shujaiya, where most of the tunnels were located. Not a single unguided bomb was used. While Assadists rain Ghouta with unguided bombs, including incendiary thermobaric.

The stupidity of your comparison comes from the fact that you are comparing operation in a land filled with dense urban (Damascus suburbs) with a region with too many small villages and 3-4 larger than village towns, whose entire urban areas combined doesn't even get close to east Ghouta. SAA hasn't even tried to advance an inch in past days.
Most of the Ghouta territory is famland.

Let's compare another similar operation:

SAA captured a huge area in Idlib with more than 370 towns and villages in almost 2 months of operation, killing nearly 900 rebels/ISIS terrorists combined. The black area was captured in a result. So yes, when you don't face terrorists in a dense urban warfare, it's possible to advance in a rather logical pace given proper planning for the operation.
1) There is no similarity. That Idlib area is completely flat with very little vegetation. While Afrin is mountain area. Let me remind you that Assadists stormed mountain Salma village in Latakia with 2 K population for about 4 years and managed to take it only when swarms of Shia mercenaries swept it.
2) Assadists and Russians mercilessly bombed all villages in that area. As result all the population (over 200 k) was ethnically cleansed. Here UN report:

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https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefw...nts_in_north-western_syria_final_20180116.pdf

Simply when Assadists kill less than 100 civilians a day no one even reports it.

3) It was nothing but part of a deal. Here the map published 4 month before:

 
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That Israel is an occupier baby-killing Apartheid state? Well yes, I do realize the significance of it.
No. The significance is that Israel can give such moral lessons. For it is Israel that does have the record of defeating its enemies while doing the utmost to preserve civilian lives and infrastructure, whereas Russia, Syria, and Iran do not.
 
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