The Triangular Poles: CHINA - RUSSIA - USA :: Syria As The Showcase

[randomradio]

Count'em yerself...

If you are asking for my personal analysis of the destroyed targets using low resolution images, then I'm not qualified to do that. All I see are yellow circles.

I'm just going by the reports.

Don't worry, I'm not arguing for or against this. I just gave my opinion on what the report was talking about, since the two of you were actually trying to analyse the report.

Here is what you do not understand...

There are two main reasons for any military attack: coercion or destruction.

To coerce, an attack must be measured and focused. An analogy is the difference between a slap and a punch. With a slap, you do try to convince the person to take a different path, not necessarily the path you want, but at least to deviate from the current path.

But with a punch, you mean to inflict serious pain and/or even harm. A punch -- the military version -- is for debilitation and escalation to destruction. You are NOT trying to convince the person of anything. You want him out of action. Desert Storm was an all-out battle for the destruction of the Iraqi military.

This cruise missile strike is coercion. The damage is low only from certain perspective. Overall, it is low. But for the Syrian airbase, it is not low.

I think you are reading too much into it though. The US sucker 'slapped' Syria, but they are back in action using the same airbase. Plus, destroying a few old aircraft is not damaging enough in the long run, the Russians will simply replace the destroyed jets from their Soviet stock for free. The overall material damage is irrelevant.

The country is already at war, the aftermath is what counts in this case. And right now, everything is a bit iffy in the political front.

For example, the Russians have warned of taking action the next time. But what if the Syrians carry out another CW attack? Let's see what happens in the US-Russia talks next week.

 

[gambit]

I'm just going by the reports.

Try doing more than just 'going by the reports'.

I think you are reading too much into it though. The US sucker 'slapped' Syria, but they are back in action using the same airbase. Plus, destroying a few old aircraft is not damaging enough in the long run, the Russians will simply replace the destroyed jets from their Soviet stock for free. The overall material damage is irrelevant.

And I think you are not reading deep enough...

This is more about China and Russia than it is about Syria. Sure, the chemical weapons were horrific, but we could have hit that Syrian airbase any time and at any level we want.

Regarding China. Right now, the PLA generals and admirals are rightly nervous. Once again, the Americans demonstrated their military can deliver real combat results while PLA forces so far performed only exercises and parade marches. North Korean missile launch facilities are clearly vulnerable, as well as those SCS islands. The fact that we informed the Russians and the Chinese of what we will do is an oblique snub, and it is even worse for the Chinese as their leader is hosted by ours.

 

[jhungary]

In your day ? How dare you bring your military experience into this discussion ?!?!

My Bad

What I got from the news report is, out of the 59 fired, 23 missiles hit 9 targets. The remaining 36 missiles are 'missing'. The 9 targets are 6 aircraft, a training center, a canteen and a radar station.

This is more important.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/the-...-ahead-of-syria-missile-strikes-official.html
Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said in an official statement: "Russian forces were notified in advance of the strike using the established deconfliction line. U.S. military planners took precautions to minimize risk to Russian or Syrian personnel located at the airfield."

That explains why the damage was so low. The Syrians were probably already in the air or in safe locations.

Personally, I think the entire strike was orchestrated by all three sides. Limited damage to the Syrians to show that they were 'punished'. No damage to the Russians. And the US comes out looking like a hero for Western public consumption.

No point analyzing politics in Syria.

Again, it's not that simple. There are 2 things involved in this strike people outside the Military Circle did not know but it's mighty important

How do you defined the word "Destroyed"? Or "Hit"?

I can hit a target with an artillery shell, or missile, but what kind of damage are done to the target? If it is a surface target, it would have been an Airburst or Ground Detonation. In an Air Burst, the target was showered with shrapnel, while in a ground det, you are looking at blast damage to the target. For an underground target, the only way to hit that target is from a penetrating hits.

Why is it important? Hitting a target and dealing damages is two different issue, in a ground det, a target may or may not have been totally destroy, but rather, a hit could be just that, a hit. Sometime a hit won't even deal any damage at all, if that target have already been destroyed.

For this part, 23 missile is on ground target, but 36 missile weren't, the question is, were these 36 missile missed? Even a missile missed, it would ended up hitting something. To call 36 missile "Unaccounted" for is quite weird. Those missile have their flight path, and their impact point. That mean if they missed, something else have to be destroy other than any asset in that airfield, maybe a house nearby, or a car or even empty ground with a crater or maybe they were intercepted by the Russian, either way, there are some sort of record of those missile hit something or something hit those missile. And Russia and Syria have more than capable radar to pick up these 36 misses. So, if those 36 missile did not hit something else? Where have they gone? The answer? US ripple fired them. Meaning those 36 missile could have hit the same target that 23 had hit. Since you don't have a second det, it does not register a hit by the Russian.

2.) The strike is to show Russia and China that we are not afraid to hit Russian Target, not because we want to destroy that target. SAA is protected by Russia, that mean you have to be quite ballsy to hit it, and if you do, that means we mean that, even with a call telling the Russia off the base, that does not mean Russia would have allowed this to happen. Just because I called ahead and that would not means it's okay to hit my asset. That call is more of a courtesy than an actual warning.

The degree of this strike, the damage done is low, because it's a strike that said we can do this, we have the avenue to do this, so telling the Russian to put the SAA on tighter leash or else we can multiply it any day.

 

[TaiShang]

Contrary to what the U.S. reaction and claims would let you assume, we don't even know exactly at this time what kind of chemical was used, who used it and from where it came. We have a lot of allegations from terrorists who make allegations and stories up all the time and provide testimonies at gunpoint or on fake Facebook personas with little kids faces for maximum emotional appeal. We don't even know if all the dead bodies really occurred over there. The only solution is a independent investigation to secure the facts.

It was indeed amazing that the mad US regime got emotionally moved by the quick view of several images provided by the local sources, one of them being a UK-origin migrant doctor whose professional credentials removed in UK due to misconduct and terrorism charges.

Now he get to become the only most reliable source to indict and implicate Syria for a chemical attack.

The truth is that the US regime was looking for an excuse and they probably helped the Jihadists stage it to jump on only two days after the alleged chemical attacks without any due investigation. Syrian army was moving toward Idlib, to clear the area from Turkey and US backed Jihadists - their probably last stronghold.

Another truth is that US-Gulf and Turkey supported terrorists are more dangerous to Syria than the ISIS. ISIS cannot gain legitimacy, but, US can give legitimacy to Al Qaida/Nusra groups by calling them moderates, and giving them some fake humanitarian tasks like the White Helmets.

Everybody knows the game. The US is a terror abetting rogue regime which deserves more condemnation and sanction than North Korea ever does. We will see how the regime will go berserk next time China and Russia veto their war agenda at the UNSC.

Below is a long but nice, empirical read.

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Don't Blame Assad for Syrian Gas Attack Yet

Ask first: "Who benefits?" Ask that of the Malaysian Airliner shoot-down too

Dr. William Wedin
Sat, Apr 8, 2017
The only people who do not want to see Assad go, besides the Russians and the Iranians, are the Syrian people themselves.

Whenever I hear of some terrible atrocity happening--like this gas attack on a civilian (hostage) population in a terrorist-held area in the Idlib province of Syria, killing 72 Syrians, including 20 children--I always ask Putin's puppy what questions I should be asking myself about a tragedy like this.

And he always answers me in Latin (for that's how he and Volodya converse):

"Cui bono?"

Great question, PP! "Cui Bono?" "Who benefits [from this crime]?"

Not Assad, that's for sure. Not with this big UN/EU Conference on The Future of Syrian taking place in Brussels with all the important stakeholders in the future of Syria right there on stage. You know. The US, the UK, Germany, Norway, Kuwait, and Qatar.

Who better to speak for the best interests of the Syrian people than those 6 nations?

Bashar al-Assad?

"These gas attacks are his work! Obama let him off the last time!"

As accusations reinforce each other:

"Assad must go!"

That's the bottom line. These 6 nations don't give a hoot who gasses whom.

The US, in particular, was happy to give Saddam the chemical precursors to "gas his own people" (the Kurds whom neocons now love) so long as Saddam gassed over 70,000 Iranians during the Iran/Iraq War as well.

[Image - Dead bodies]
Rumsfeld & Saddam; Iranian victims of US-supplied poison gas


The US, the UK, Germany, Norway, Kuwait, and Qatar all want Assad to go because they all want a pipeline built from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf monarchies up through Syria to the Mediterranean--thereby eliminating Europe's need for Russian oil, while also eliminating the need to ship their oil in tankers through the Iran-threatened Strait of Hormuz.

It is Assad who's refusing to let that pipeline be built through Syria because he's an ally of both Russia and Iran. So...

"Assad must go!"

The Saudis also want Assad to go to further their ambition to "cleanse" the entire Middle East and Southern Russian of Christians (most of whom are Orthodox Christians), Shia Muslims, and other minority religions (e.g. Zoroastrians) through forced migration, forced conversions, stonings, beheadings, and crucifixions, as I have been encouraged to document on this brave website here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here and here.1

The only people who do not want to see Assad go, besides the Russians and the Iranians, are the Syrian people themselves: which is why (once again, after Trump was taken to the woodshed by the Deep State) the US is adamantly opposed to the Syrian people being given any chance to vote for him.

The US has had enough of free elections with the election of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, Mohamed Nasheed in the Maldives, Salvador Allende in Chile, .... The list goes on. Every time free elections are allowed the Deep State suffers!

When Assad did stand for reelection in 2014, after 14 years of unopposed rule, in a contested election that was judged "free, fair, and transparent" by an international commission of observers, headed by Jimmy Carter--Assad won 88% of the vote if such a thing is possible. That's 3 percentage points higher than Putin's highest point of genuine popularity. Could it be?

Those poll results might indeed be accurate if even "the important stakeholders in Syria's future" like the US are worried. A leaked secret NATO survey, taken a year earlier at the lowest point in Assad's popularity (when he was being widely blamed for the US-Saudi-Qatar-Kuwait-imported-terrorist "rebellion" still raging on) showed that even then Assad would have won a contested election against a strong opponent with a whopping 70% of the vote across all demographics.

The neocons were shocked (Like the "liberated" Iraqis not greeting our invading forces in 2003 with flowers.) But Assad's popularity is really not so hard to fathom. For while both he and his father, Hafez al-Assad, did rule as dictators--even brutal dictators at times--they were also "enlightened" dictators in the sense that they well understood that even dictators ultimately only govern with the consent of the governed; and that it was therefore in their interest to respect the rights, especially the religious rights, of all of their citizens, while simultaneously emphasizing the unifying feeling and concept of a shared secular identity among their citizens as "Arabs" and more specifically "Syrians."

And this emotional concept (as opposed to just an abstract or intellectual concept) of a unifying Arab identity did indeed have the intended effect of quelling religious strife and divisiveness wherever it was tried throughout the Middle East--be it in Egypt or Libya or Syria or Iraq. And with peace came prosperity for the masses.

That was certainly not to the liking of the divide-and-conquer Imperialists here in America. If they were to be obscenely rich, the Arab masses had to be poor and torn apart by religious divisions, as we see in Iraq and Libya today. Those nations were once the jewels of the Middle East (along with Syria) under Saddam and Gaddafi with their versions of Arab nationalism.

But while Iraq and Libya have now been swept away by the American war machine, Basher's father, Hafez al-Assad, and since Hafez's death in 2000, Bashar himself were able to resist all of the CIA's nefarious efforts to undermine the aptly named, Syrian Arab Republic--giving rise to 40 years of peace and prosperity across all demographic groups.

And no group benefited from Assad's protection more--and remain more loyal to their Alawite Muslim President today--than Syrian Orthodox Christians, whom Assad continues to protect from Clinton-Obama-sanctioned genocide in the areas Assad continues to control to this very day.

That has been a huge, huge source of embarrassment to the past Clinton-Obama Administration. And that is why the rate of acceptance of Syrian Christian refugees into the US for permanent settlement here under Clinton-Obama remained at 0,5% (that's ½ of 1%) of all Syrian refugees accepted for settlement during Obama's 2 terms. Clinton and Obama simply did not want Syrian Orthodox Christians coming here and talking about the Christian genocide taking place in those areas of Syria that Assad does not control: "rebel"-held areas these Syrian Orthodox Christians may be escaping from. But Clinton and Obama had no mercy. To keep these truth-tellers out, Clinton and Obama actually went so low as to use the fact that these Orthodox Christians had to pay their Wahhabi Muslim terrorist-captors a so-called "Christian tax" or "jizya" to avoid crucifixion or beheading to send these Orthodox Christians back into the hands of their terrorist tormentors where they would face certain death on the bizarre legal ground that this payment of a "jizya" constituted "material support to a terrorist organization." In effect, what this legal argument, which has since been upheld, says to these Orthodox Christian refugees is that:

"You should have refused to pay the tax and let the terrorists behead or crucify you then, instead of putting us in the position of having to send you back--which makes us look bad. Really it's between you and them!"

This is the same mentality that allowed the United States to send ocean-liners full of Jewish refugees back to Nazi Germany on the eve of WW2.

If only the American people as a whole--or at least Christian Americans--or at the very least, Orthodox Christian Americans--knew what was going on. If only they knew how they were being deceived. If only they could see photos like these.

Orthodox Christian children carry photo at Christmas Eve Parade; Bashar al-Assad & his wife Asma at Orthodox Christmas Party

Yet even among alternative news sites, only Russia Insider has had both the wisdom and the courage to publish photos like these. Photos that make us both think and feel in our hearts that people like us love Bashar Assad and feel safe with him. So safe that the children on the right feel safe to chat with their back to Bashar! Words-only articles rarely "think" to mention those things. That's because words-only articles use the left, "digital" side of the brain which controls the right side of the body, and if dominant, produces both right-handedness and linear thinking. (Whereas a disproportionate number of artists, composers, and cosmologists, like Einstein and Stephan Hawking, are right-brained and left-hand-dominate and think "feelingly" in analog terms.]

Clearly we need both sides of our brain--just as need both words and photos--to emotionally grasp (not just grasp intellectually, according to correct linear grammar) that Assad is a good man, much beloved by the Syrian people.

Assad should therefore be accorded the presumption of innocence with respect to this horrific charge of having "gassed his own people"--unless and until he is found guilty by the International Court of Justice--if there is ever sufficient evidence of probable guilt to charge him in the first place.

I believe that no such evidence exists. Quite the contrary. I believe that the CIA is now "framing" Assad for this heinous crime in exactly the same way the CIA has seemingly now successfully "framed" Putin for directly or indirectly causing the shootdown of Malaysia Air Flight 17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, after Kiev air controllers diverted the plane from its normal route to one over a war zone. where 2 Ukrainian fighter jets took Flight 17 down, killing all 398 people aboard.

I certainly assess Putin to be a good, strong, humble, honest, pious, compassionate, morally-disciplined, Orthodox-Christian man, who is much loved and admired by many Russians, who see the best of themselves in him.

I therefore believe that Putin should also be accorded the presumption of innocence with respect to the horrific charge of having directly or indirectly caused the downing of Flight 17--unless and until he is found guilty by the International Court of Justice--if there is ever sufficient evidence of probable guilt to charge him in the first place.

At the same time I will say in both Assad's defense and Putin's defense that the United States has committed the most heinous crimes throughout its history without the least compunction or the least regret. Witness the Navy missile cruiser USS Vincennes deliberately firing 2 missiles at Iran Air Flight 655 on July 3, 1988, as the commercial airliner, a giant Airbus, was climbing to its normal flying altitude on a regular route at a regular time over Iranian waters on a routine flight from Tehran to Dubai--with all details long filed with the Navy.

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Bodies from Malaysia Air Flight 17; Bodies washed ashore from Iran Air Flight 655

Yet on direct orders from Reagan, the Vincennes blew that unarmed Airbus with 290 innocent people aboard to flaming pieces--on the lame excuse that the Vincennes had mistaken the huge climbing Airbus for a small diving Iranian fighter engaged in a Kamikaze attack.

That offensively transparent lie was meant to fool no one.

Reagan's clear purpose was to send a message to the Iranian leadership that the US was prepared to use even more drastic measures, including the use of tactical nuclear weapons if needed, to make the Iranians end the Iran/Iraq War (which Reagan had urged Saddam to start in the first place in the hope of toppling Ayatollah Khomeini's new Iranian "regime"--that ended the reign of our puppet Shah--but which Saddam was now losing, despite our supplying him with poison gas).

With Putin, the purpose in downing Flight 17 was to make the case with the waffling Europeans that Putin was indeed a "monster;" and that the Europeans should therefore join the US in imposing strong sanctions against Russia.

It worked like a charm. Whereas before, many Europeans were privately or even publicly on the fence about imposing sanctions, as there was a case to be made for Putin's needing to seek a reunification with Crimea at least after the US-engineered coup in Kiev, the US had such an enormous megaphone at its disposal in the International Mainstream Media that only the thunderous voices of pundits and politicians calling Putin a merciless murderer--and reminding us all of his prior "convictions" (like that dastardly polonium poisoning!)--resounded in our ears: instantly erasing all memory of a coup. Putin had become Evil Incarnate!

And the sanctions simply sailed through! No thought of an integrated continent from Lisbon to Vladivostok now! The US runs a real "protection" racket. And these acts of terror--from terrorists to rogue states--means we'll stay the world's self-appointed policeman for the next 50 years--even if Middle America must live on dog food!

The author is a licensed clinical psychologist and long-time human rights activist who lives and practices in New York City.

1 I wish to express my special thanks to my former Managing Editor, Alexei Pankin, my present Managing Editor, Riley, and most of all to the Editor-in-Chief and Publisher of Russia Insider, Charles Bausman (along with my 2 anonymous Russian research assistants in Moscow and New York), for their Christian patience and encouragement as I have sought to document the "cleansing " of Christians throughout the Middle East by al-Qaeda, ISIS, and their associates which the US pretends to fight, but which it actually actively funds, trains, and supports in its relentless quest to destroy Russia and thereafter China--even if it means aiding and abetting this "cleansing" of Christians from a large section of the globe--while the Saudi Royal family grows ever richer, at the same time they see their own perverted form of Islam (which they themselves are too corrupt to practice) destroy more and more lives.

@Daniel808 , @samsara , @Chinese-Dragon

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

"Cui bono?"

Great question, PP! "Cui Bono?" "Who benefits [from this crime]?"

From a logical, rational viewpoint, this is the question that should always be asked. Who benefits?

Now I'm not saying that Assad is innocent and someone did this as a false flag, there is not enough evidence in the public domain to be sure either way. There are many possibilities for what actually happened.

But on a more positive note, Trump's reaction was very good for us. All that effort that he put in to strengthening his relationship with Russia, all of that was flushed down the toilet in a single day. That is a feat of epic proportions.

So to ask the valuable question again, why did Trump destroy the relations he built up with Russia in a single day? I'm guessing it's because his domestic position is so weak (as shown by the spectacular failure of his healthcare bill despite it being the early days of his presidency). Maybe he felt he had no other choice but to desperately try and grab a bit more domestic support. Which I think he managed to get, at least.

 

[TaiShang]

But on a more positive note, Trump's reaction was very good for us. All that effort that he put in to strengthening his relationship with Russia, all of that was flushed down the toilet in a single day. That is a feat of epic proportions.

There are reports that the US will put more military persons on the ground in Syria. More militarism. Ever growing defense budget.

Strategically, we are in a better position as long as the US keep mindlessly spending, borrowing money, and ignoring the fundamentals of domestic economy. Because, as the Soviet example shows, in case economic fundamentals are weak, the huge MIC will simply speed up the crash.

On the other hand, it is amazing how militarist the US regular folks have become. To get political % points, a US president needs to get someone assassinated, a country hit with missiles... Providing homes to the homeless does not get you political brownies in the US.

The longer and deeper this sickness continues, the better for the rest of the world; although, like the Syrians, some unfortunate people have to suffer the immediate fire of militarism.

Not only the end of a possible US-Russia détente will push China-Russia strategically closer, but also the developments in the Korean Peninsula. And with China-Russia having strong cooperation, a large portion of Eurasian landmass is out of the reach of the US. And, from nuclear power perspective, they are badly outdone.

 

[grey boy 2]

Back to business the next day, USA: "no chemical attack allowed but air strikes are ok as usual" 60枚战斧就打成这样？叙利亚机场继续执行作战, 此前遭美巡航导弹袭击的沙伊拉特空军基地在第二天即已恢复运行, 美明确宣布的方针是禁叙使用化武，而非禁叙使用空袭，若有此举则意味着决心要升级对抗，且与俄冲突几乎不可避免。

 

[samsara]

Luring Trump Into Mideast Wars (April 9)

"Tuesday’s poison-gas incident in Idlib thus offered a way out regardless of who was actually responsible. Trump decided to fire away before the facts were in because the enemy he is most worried about is not the one half a world away in Syria, but the Democratic-neocon alliance in his own backyard. The only way for Trump to make peace with the “Deep State” in Washington was by waging war on Syria."


H. R. McMaster Manipulating Intelligence Reports to Trump, Wants 150,000 Ground Soldiers in Syria (April 8)

Current National Security Adviser Herbert Raymond “H. R.” McMaster is manipulating intelligence reports given to President Donald Trump, Cernovich Media can now report. McMaster is plotting how to sell a massive ground war in Syria to President Trump with the help of disgraced former CIA director and convicted criminal David Petraeus, who mishandled classified information by sharing documents with his mistress.


The Spoils of War: Trump Lavished With Media and Bipartisan Praise For Bombing Syria
By Glenn Greenwald - The Intercept - April 7, 2017

Frog-Marching Trump

Trump is certainly a fool for going ahead with such an attack in clear contravention of international law and entangling the United States more deeply into the complicated Syrian conflict. But the blame also should go to the people who frog-marched him to the precipice and then all but commanded him to step over the edge.

Within hours, all the usual suspects were congratulating one of the most scorned U.S. presidents in history for taking the leap.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
Republican super-hawks Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham
Senator Elizabeth Warren
The Guardian (UK); The New York Times; The Washington Post; USA Today; Wall Street Journal
MSNBC; CNN; and many more...


Is This The Beginning Of The End For U.S. Empire? (April 8)

"We need to understand that those who want this war will be absolutely relentless. The sales pitch will not end until they get exactly what they want. This is where all of us critical thinkers need to play a key role..."


'Emergency' protests across US demand 'Hands off Syria' (VIDEOS, PHOTOS) (April 8)

SOROS' TRACES WITHIN TRUMP'S FAMILY???

George Soros is the secret financier behind Kushner-backed startup Cadre
Investor’s family fund issued $250M credit line: sources

From left: George Soros, Jared, and Joshua Kushner (Credit: Getty Images)


And try to digest following maze

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"However, no matter who the president is, eventually the MIC always keeps the war machine going."

 

[TaiShang]

Back to business the next day, USA: "no chemical attack allowed but air strikes are ok as usual" 60枚战斧就打成这样？叙利亚机场继续执行作战, 此前遭美巡航导弹袭击的沙伊拉特空军基地在第二天即已恢复运行, 美明确宣布的方针是禁叙使用化武，而非禁叙使用空袭，若有此举则意味着决心要升级对抗，且与俄冲突几乎不可避免。

US military is in quantitative rise, qualitative decline.

Russia hurt US image more than a direct attack on US interests (such as terrorist groups supported by the US against Syria) would do.

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[gambit]

For this part, 23 missile is on ground target, but 36 missile weren't, the question is, were these 36 missile missed? Even a missile missed, it would ended up hitting something. To call 36 missile "Unaccounted" for is quite weird. Those missile have their flight path, and their impact point. That mean if they missed, something else have to be destroy other than any asset in that airfield, maybe a house nearby, or a car or even empty ground with a crater or maybe they were intercepted by the Russian, either way, there are some sort of record of those missile hit something or something hit those missile.

You think our reasoning exists in other forums ? Allowed in other forums ? My guess is that the need to mock US outweighs the need to be fair minded so reasonable questions about Russian claims would be deleted.

US military is in quantitative rise, qualitative decline.

Now THIS is truly hilarious considering the PLA have done nothing beyond exercises and parade marches.

 

[samsara]

US military is in quantitative rise, qualitative decline.

Russia hurt US image more than a direct attack on US interests (such as terrorist groups supported by the US against Syria) would do.

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Since the USA has not been able to enact the regime change in Damascus according to its wishes as usual... halted the new gas-pipeline plan from Qatar to reach Europe through Syria... its image was already hurt badly by the Russian Federation. Now it's seen openly to those seeing eyes that the so-called world's sole superpower is not able to proceed unilaterally as it wishes! Russia has put it on check.

That map shows the competing Shiia (Russia-backed) and Sunni (U.S.-backed) gas-pipelines into Europe — the central issue in the invasion and defense of Syria.​

 

[TaiShang]

Russia has put it on check.

 

[F-22Raptor]

US military is in quantitative rise, qualitative decline.

Russia hurt US image more than a direct attack on US interests (such as terrorist groups supported by the US against Syria) would do.

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The US military is in qualitative decline?

Do you even have a clue of the military programs the US has now and in the pipeline?

 

[LeGenD]

Since the USA has not been able to enact the regime change in Damascus according to its wishes as usual... halted the new gas-pipeline plan from Qatar to reach Europe through Syria... its image was already hurt badly by the Russian Federation. Now it's seen openly to those seeing eyes that the so-called world's sole superpower is not able to proceed unilaterally as it wishes! Russia has put it on check.

That map shows the competing Shiia (Russia-backed) and Sunni (U.S.-backed) gas-pipelines into Europe — the central issue in the invasion and defense of Syria.​

US did not attempt 'regime change' in Syria at any point.

 

[Max]

i dont think China will ever Physically become part of this conflict, they will play secondary role (statements) with Russia in lead. which is good for China, China should not involve itself in ME quagmire.