The Top Military Powers 20 Years From Now

[indianpatriot]

please close this thread mods.Its gone be a disaster even though i Kno after 20 yrs India will be more powerful than China.

 

[SyedF]

please close this thread mods.Its gone be a disaster even though i Kno after 20 yrs India will be more powerful than China.

When you start hearing voices inside your head it usually turns into a disaster!!

A reality check for India's middle class
Amrit Dhillon
September 25, 2010

The Delhi Games fiasco is a long-overdue reminder of the country's true state.

THE delusional and self-satisfied antics of the Indian middle class have been brutally ripped apart and exposed - like some of the Games facilities - by the farce of the Commonwealth Games being played out in the Indian capital. It's been a curious derangement. Reasonably educated and moderately affluent people confused wishful thinking with reality as though merely wishing for something was sufficient to bring it about.

For years, the dinner-table talk in middle-class homes has been of India's new image in the world, its rightful desire to play a bigger role on the world stage, and its legitimate aspiration for a seat on the United Nations Security Council. Fantastic rates of economic growth and a new prosperity, so the smug talk went, had finally laid to rest the old painful images of India's immemorial poverty.

Seduced by their new gleaming shopping malls, mobile phones, plasma TVs, trendy wine bars and luxury cars, the middle class smirked at having abolished the memory of those monstrously hateful words of V. S. Naipaul in Area of Darkness: "Indians defecate everywhere. They defecate, mostly, beside the railway tracks. They defecate on the beaches; they defecate on the hills; they defecate on the river banks; they defecate on the streets … The truth is that Indians do not see these squatters and might even, with complete sincerity, deny that they exist.''

What the Indian middle class has been busy denying for a decade is the reality of India's poverty: that 830 million Indians make less than 20 rupees (A50¢) a day; that if you drive 30 minutes outside the big cities, you confront living conditions in the villages that are almost medieval; and that while the scourge of starvation may no longer haunt India, millions, including 2000 to 3000 children every day, die a slow death from malnutrition.

Indian statistics on health, infant mortality, malnutrition and income are worse than those for sub-Saharan Africa. Indians lack basic necessities - clean homes, clean drinking water, toilets, medicines.

The rich, who travel first class, have to pick their way through families sleeping on the ground and, from the train, they can see slum dwellers relieving themselves on the tracks because they have nowhere else to go.

Yes, some Indians had convinced themselves that, in the popular slogan, India was ''shining''. Merely because the economy was booming and the stock market soaring, the country was poised on the threshold of superpowerdom.

It was these delusional fantasies that made the middle class think its bumbling ''babus'' (bureaucrats) and corrupt politicians could organize a successful international sports event.

Again, they ignored the reality around them. Every day, the same Indians visit government offices where they see the same squalid sight: rooms that have not been painted for a decade, where the walls are splattered with the dirty orange-brown stains left by the ''paan'' (betel nut) spat out by its masticators, furniture, leaking taps, dirty windows, dust, and fetid toilets with wet floors where the stink makes you gag.

What made them think the same men and women who live and work in such conditions possessed the standards and project managements skills necessary to create world class structures and organize a sports event of the magnitude of the Commonwealth Games? A ludicrous sense of superiority.

It was the same superiority complex that had some Indians frothing at the mouth at Slumdog Millionaire's success. "Why does the West have to show our slums?" they harrumphed, as though India's slums, where millions live out their entire lives without a shred of dignity or comfort, were a thing of the past.

The men in charge of the Games - Organising Committee secretary-general Lalit Bhanot and chairman Suresh Kalmadi - display the same self-satisfaction. In an interview a year ago with Bhanot in his office, I was appalled at the hubris oozing from every pore as I asked him about the country's preparedness.

His body language and the expression on his face were that of a feudal lord who could not be questioned.

Kalmadi is no better. Various countries offered him their expertise in arranging the Games but he flicked the offers aside contemptuously, despite the fact that the last time India arranged such a gigantic event was the Asian Games in 1982. No, thank you, we Indians are far too clever to need any help.

It sounds mean, but there is a touch of divine justice in the shame felt by many middle class Indians over the Games fiasco. When they were prospering and leaving their fellow citizens far behind, they never spared a thought for them and their daily humiliations.

Nor did they ever spare a thought for the rural laborers who slaved in the searing heat to build the stadiums, bridges, flyovers, and Games village to make middle class Indians proud, while living themselves in tents next to sewers infested with mosquitoes. Now they know the sting of humiliation.

Amrit Dhillon is a Dehli-based freelance writer.

A reality check for India's middle class

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

And the reason for that is.......................?

20 years is too short to make a power shift from todays position..america will spend more to retain the position even if they can hardly afford it.

china is far away from overtaking america in twenty years..it may happen after 2050 or so.
russia is positioned neck to neck with china and they are spending 650 billion extra for next decade.

india also is spending high and will remain in the same position..i don't see no other country overtaking india in twenty years.

 

[Wounded-Monk]

I hope in next 20 yrs we will be strong enough so that no one dares to mess with us specially our neighbours.....and I think we should increase our spending in health sector/agriculture also....

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

2. India – Probably the most dynamic country in terms of the leaps. India is rapidly becoming self-sufficient in a number of areas, and what it cannot produce, it is able to buy. Currently reasearching the Surya ICBM series with a range of 13,000 km and equipped with a 250 kiloton warhead beating any Chinese ballistic missile in terms of range and yield. Plus , India is developing the Sagarika Cruise Missile which will be second only to the American Tomahawks.It also has some of the best training in the world, and can give an unsuspecting opponent a surprise. Probably the next superpower due to a more firm economic footing, and the fact that its Navy is much more advanced than China’s.

Lmao buying your way to world number 2 super power very clever argument indeed

You wont be "lmao" when India drops foriegn made bombs on ur house

 

[tanlixiang28776]

The thread starter is embarrassing himself.

DF 5 operational in 1981 has a range of 15,000 KM with a yield of 5 megatons.

DH 10 in service in 2007 with range of 4000 KM.

China has SSNs and SSBNs in operation. India has no ship in the same class as the type 52C

These are things you can't buy.

Tell Superman here to stop his wet dreams.

 

[below_freezing]

Joke thread. I won't talk about DF-5, DH-10, SSN and SSBN and 052C. I just have to mention J-10, J-20, Type 99.

Also, we have first class logistics. With our high speed train system, we can bring 20 divisions from Guangzhou to North Korea within 72 hours. That is to say, we can move a military about the size of Iran's 2000 km within 3 days.

Please, no more of this crap. USA is on its way down and even in 1950 it was unable to even get close to the Chinese border. Today, the Wall Street regime can stop its dreams and focus on avoiding collapse.

 

[Imran Khan]

mods transfer this to stupid and funny thread

 

[Yeti]

USA number 1
EU number 2
Russia/China 3
India number 4

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

What about Pakistan?

Should be top 10, have one of the biggest armies in the world!!!

 

[below_freezing]

I found it funny how they put UK as #3 and cited financial problems as a weakness for China. There is no country with worse financial situation than the US and UK is pretty close. Also, funny to talk about quality, when only 3 countries in the world have a 5th generation fighter, and China is 1 of them. Any country that doesn't should get out of the picture.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

I found it funny how they put UK as #3 and cited financial problems as a weakness for China. There is no country with worse financial situation than the US and UK is pretty close. Also, funny to talk about quality, when only 3 countries in the world have a 5th generation fighter, and China is 1 of them. Any country that doesn't should get out of the picture.

Many countries will get F-35, India will get 50 PAK FA, and 250 joint venture Indo Russian FGFA. USA F-22 and F-35, Russia 250 Pak Fa and 50 FGFA. China J-20, and India will try to make its own second home grown MCA fighter.

 

[Kompromat]

Some Mistakes here , Chinese Military is actually very very much ahead of India already. India cant manufacture a reliable basic jet trainer air craft on its own and without Israeli , Russian or British Help. Chinese have just shown what they are capable of by unveiling J-20 Firefang.

This article obviously has its points that can be accepted but India being Ahead of China in 20 years is too far fetched , its a matter of common sense.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Many countries will get F-35, India will get 50 PAK FA, and 250 joint venture Indo Russian FGFA. USA F-22 and F-35, Russia 250 Pak Fa and 50 FGFA. China J-20, and India will try to make its own second home grown MCA fighter.

He was talking about the countries independently capable of producing a fifth gen fighter both technologically and financially.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

You wont be "lmao" when India drops foriegn made bombs on ur house

He will when China drops indigenous LGBs on your face.