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Pakistan is going to develop its own LRMPA?it means getting orders each time Pakistan scores as third-party sale of the LRMPA.
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Pakistan is going to develop its own LRMPA?it means getting orders each time Pakistan scores as third-party sale of the LRMPA.
IIRC the PN is not ordering the ATMACA with the MILGEM. Even the Turks, as they understood it, the PN will add its own AShM (be it C-802A or Harbah), which is why it'll have access to the CMS and other subsystems.
Would our ship have this too?
If YJ 18 is better than better go for them for Anti Ship. They will already be there in our SubsThe ships will have the YJ-12, again supersonic
If YJ 18 is better than better go for them for Anti Ship. They will already be there in our Subs
Also remember the YJ-18 is lighter and made specifically to fire from submarines.
Why can't PN go for Chinese munitions for LRMPA?I just think that for the next-gen LRMPA, the ATMACA AShM and ORKA lightweight torpedo (LWT) are fair game. In fact, I'd wager that the PN will even consider the SOM. The reason for this is rational: By looping in Turkish anti-sub and anti-ship munitions, the PN might get Turkish help in integrating and testing weapons to the LRMPA.
Integrating weapons to a platform you don't directly own is a tough and costly process.
It's from the man who interviewed the CNS re: the MILGEM configuration (and broke news re: VLS, etc)I clearly read they are. Has there been official or unofficial sources clearly stating the opposite. I don't think this will ever be the case, it would be a grave mistake. As you stated yourself the integration of another strike weapon will be difficult, not to mention to ignore an already developed, tried and tested strike weapon is illogical.
The ships will have the YJ-12, again supersonic.
It can, but if you can get someone with some experience doing custom integration work (like Roketsan did for the C295 and AW149) to offset some costs, then why not? If the LRMPA can carry SOM, then it'll get the much wanted strike capability folks want PN to have via JH-7s.
https://www.uscc.gov/research/china...pabilities-and-implications-us-forces-western
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-18
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/yj-18.htm
Why can't PN go for Chinese munitions for LRMPA?
It's from the man who interviewed the CNS re: the MILGEM configuration (and broke news re: VLS, etc)
Unlike the ADA Class, which can stay at sea for 10 days, the Jinnah Class Frigates will be able to stay at sea for 15 days, and the ships will be armed with Chinese C-802 guided anti-ship missiles instead of Harpoon or ATMACA missiles. The Pakistan Navy is also expected to place the Harba Anti-ship Cruise Missile in the Jinnah Class vessels in the future.
https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/a-look-at-latest-status-of-the-pn-milgem-project-3824/
Atleast one person observed it.
India already extended brahmos range to 450 kms.
Not to forget india already testing air brahmos
Unlike the ADA Class, which can stay at sea for 10 days
Regarding to LRMPA, SOM-J would be a better option isn't it?It's from the man who interviewed the CNS re: the MILGEM configuration (and broke news re: VLS, etc)
Unlike the ADA Class, which can stay at sea for 10 days, the Jinnah Class Frigates will be able to stay at sea for 15 days, and the ships will be armed with Chinese C-802 guided anti-ship missiles instead of Harpoon or ATMACA missiles. The Pakistan Navy is also expected to place the Harba Anti-ship Cruise Missile in the Jinnah Class vessels in the future.
https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/a-look-at-latest-status-of-the-pn-milgem-project-3824
It can, but if you can get someone with some experience doing custom integration work (like Roketsan did for the C295 and AW149) to offset some costs, then why not? If the LRMPA can carry SOM, then it'll get the much wanted strike capability folks want PN to have via JH-7s.
#facepalm could be a typo but still ,we are lucky he didn't calculate range of Ada class by product of 10 days * 24 hours * 29 miles (some other author has done this mistake and insisted not to correct, as he believed it was the true range)which consists of two 32MW diesel engines and a gas turbine,
Are Air-launched Brahmos naval capable? I thought only air force is testing them for now.
Pakistan's Harbah missile (Babur naval launch version) is a mystery in terms of its range since the navy hasn't officially confirmed its range.
Regarding to LRMPA, SOM-J
Based on these facts, Jinnah class will be rather based on İstanbul Class, not Ada Class. Istanbul Class was elongated on midst of the ship and front of bridge (behind of the cannon), i presume Jinnah class will be elongated the same way to make space for diesels and VLS on the front.
One question:
-What is height of HHQ-16 missile (HQ16A/B)?, i found some information stating 5.2 meters, which needs around 6 meters height for fitting the VLS, does not quite look possible to fit behind the cannon without elevated deck-platform. Is it for sure HQ-16 or HQ-7?
Bro the Brahmos have gone through significant naval testing and it is the default strike weapon of the Indian Navy.
Ofc I know that....but air-launched Brahmos is a newer version that is going tests with IAF. So its not automatically assumed to have naval-capability. Altho it might eventually develop it.
Turkey is progressing by leap and bounds in its Defence Infrastructure,very impressive indeed. I would also like to point out maybe both brotherly countries can collaborate on a SUPERSONIC CM as well. We also need something that can match BRAHMOS in the neighbourhood.
• Başlıca deniz tehdit unsurlarına karşı temel taarruz yeteneğine sahip füze sisteminin kalifikasyonu tamamlanacaktır
• Gelişmiş deniz tehdit unsurlarına karşı arttırılmış taarruz yeteneğine sahip füze sisteminin ön tasarım aşaması tamamlanacaktır
http://www.ssm.gov.tr/anasayfa/kurumsal/Documents/SSM_STRATEJIK_PLAN_2017-2021.pdf