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Read full article and make comment, Aghan Mujahdeen are much stronger in Gurrilla ware tactics then ISAF which need minimum one million COIN trained army @ 15000 per distt(398 Total Distts ) to defeat them.:D

If you call taking hostages/making people human shields as the Gurilla tactics, than god save both of us. but how can you say that all the districts of Afghanistan is like Marjah? West, North, Central parts, alot of parts of east are calm areas, south is problem but not all of them, helmand and qandahar is worst.

lastly, if people of afghanistan are not able to deal with the talbian then your taliban can survive too, you and me(afghanistan and paksitan) will burn in this same fire togheter inshallah.
 
Hit and Run is Gurrilla war Tactic is sucessfull against 10 times greater army with air support .When they will get stinger they will fight one to one :D

Russia had 150K army defeated in same battle field with Gurrilla Tactics.:D

Dont mix hit and run tactics with taking people as hostages, they are world apart different things. and also dont mix the situation of russians with the NATO, there are differences like sky and earth.
 
Hit and Run is Gurrilla war Tactic is sucessfull against 10 times greater army with air support .When they will get stinger they will fight one to one :D

Russia had 150K army defeated in same battle field with Gurrilla Tactics.:D

Hit and Run can cause disruption but cannot win a war,to win a war you have to mount offensives and overcome your enemy not kill afew of their men and lots of civilians, another reason why the Taliban can and will be defeated, InshahAllah(God Willing).
 
If you call taking hostages/making people human shields as the Gurilla tactics, than god save both of us. but how can you say that all the districts of Afghanistan is like Marjah? West, North, Central parts, alot of parts of east are calm areas, south is problem but not all of them, helmand and qandahar is worst.

lastly, if people of afghanistan are not able to deal with the talbian then your taliban can survive too, you and me(afghanistan and paksitan) will burn in this same fire togheter inshallah.

I don't think writing InshAllah there is the brightest thing to do.......
 
Hit and Run is Gurrilla war Tactic is sucessfull against 10 times greater army with air support .When they will get stinger they will fight one to one :D

Russia had 150K army defeated in same battle field with Gurrilla Tactics.:D

Huge differences with the War against the Soviets and now. The Mujaheddin had the financial, logistical, and technical support of a number of countries. They also had the overall support of the people.

Today the Taliban even with their drug money does not enjoy that level of support. Every time they blow up a school. Use the civilians as human shields. Or march into a village and executing the men. They alienate themselves from the civilian populace. And without winning the hearts and minds of the civilian populace. An insurgency is doomed to fail eventually.

No Human being wants to live in fear. And fear has been the only tool the Taliban have been adept at using from even before 9/11. Once the people realize they no longer have to live in fear. Then you will see true change come to Afghanistan.

When you live in darkness for so long and then experience the light. You learn to appreciate life in new ways.

Question for you Fundamentalist. If you believe so strongly in the Taliban and their methods and ideology. Why are you not fighting with them? Or do you work with them already? Not that I expect you to really have the guts to answer that last one.
 
you were un able to understand the my sarcastic comments 'Go get a life' in my post & started bringing in rocket science :lol:

I didn't know you were being sarcastic, Sarcasm isn't allowed, read forum rules:

"Sarcastic posts
We do not allow people to post sarcastic post at all. They are a very pathetic way in the end to back things up. They will be deleted on sight."


Did you even read forum rules before joining defence.pk?



If i for a moment think that Taliban were right, I mean their rule was same in Afgh & Pakistan this mean we did a wrong thing by annihilating them in Swat is it?

No, it was different, very different! In fact TTP were forcing girls into marriage with their men, but Afghan Taliban never did that!


Pathetic, She is a uneducated woman who don't even knows whats right & wrong & even that previous doctor who said that he will support taliban rule but at the same time he said there are zero Medical facilities in afgh, so tell me what Medical facilities were been setup by Tlaiban in their Era? Just let me know

I can prove you wrong many times, but your ignorance doesn't want to to believe, but one day you will have to face reality:lol:

& BTW read again

no, you should read again:

"If we go out, we don't know if we will arrive home or not. If there is an explosion and the Americans are passing, they will just open fire on everyone. The security problems are too much here."


so they are killing the people they are fighting for, ain't that cool ain't eh? Or they are the people who are consumable for the greater good of God

No, their not, its just western propaganda.


BTW, you should check out my post #237 about how British SAS were caught dressed up as insurgents planting bombs in civilian populated areas in Afghanistan and Iraq, here is the link:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/677558-post237.html

But i know you wont accept it, even if i bring down moon on earth :D

nice try, but i already know ground reality, no need to bring in propaganda posts;)

Before you bring in ISAF, i have said you before I am not blind, Undoubtly ISAF has done many things which 'were un called for'

No, Taliban evil is greater then ISAF evil (according to you)!




universities in which women were banned???? :rolleyes:

Said who, RAWA? CNN? BBC? Fox News? MSNBC? NY times? Did any of these channels (propaganda channels who cover up American atrocities committed in Muslims countries) tell you this?




hahahha, You beleive that friend but you won't believe what Afghan here have to say about their rule, anything said against tailban is propaganda, BTW Taliban do own Helicopters? Correct me if i am wrong

Yeah Taliban did own a few helicopters that they had captured from the communist gov of Afghanistan during Soviet Afghan war!

You'll be surprised to know how many weapons they had captured

And trust me, my friend was telling the truth! But like i said, i can prove you wrong many times but you still won't believe me because your ignorance doesn't want you to!



as i said before. 'My evil is not smaller than yours, Evil is Evil', & did i said NATO missiles have Taliban recognition sensors, at least i condemn their nuisance what are you doing, you are justifying each act carried out by Taliban whether right or wrong only because they are Muslims

Nope, Taliban "evil" (that's if they did evil) is much much less than American, NATO, indian, and israeli evil!:agree:

Like i said, if had control of world media i would also broadcast propaganda against America, israel, and india NATO 24/7!



Right, so is going to give you power over Media, we Muslims give them more & more reasons to malign us, can't you see that & moreover my point was different & you have diverted it i just proved how Muslims used education & political process to gain their goals without picking up guns & going on a rampage
what ever happened in Abu Gharib is in humane & US must trail & punish those who carried out these acts in name of investigation, I stand by you on that issue

I have never justified the rape carried out by US, this rape phenomenon is there in every country whether Muslim or non Muslim & i never talked about Iraq, there are many points in case of Iraq where i can actually agree with you

You don't make sense in your above post, if someone brakes into your house and rapes your mom or sister, would you start picking up a book and educating yourself? or would you pick up a gun and defend your god given right?:rofl:
 
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I can prove you wrong many times, but your ignorance doesn't want to to believe, but one day you will have to face reality:lol:

Then go ahead and prove it................

"If we go out, we don't know if we will arrive home or not. If there is an explosion and the Americans are passing, they will just open fire on everyone. The security problems are too much here."

Same can easily be said for the Taliban too.
 
I have an Afghan friend named Junaid, once last year an ISAF plane accidentally bombed a marriage ceremony in Afghanistan, killing 100 people. I went to him and asked:"Don't these things make you hate ISAF ?"
His reply hit me like a solid brick wall at 210kmph, he said "The ISAF people will knock on that family's door next morning, admit that they made a horrible mistake and compensate the family by paying them blood money, giving jobs to each heir, taking full responsibility for the family's medical and educational needs and give them the alternative to pursue the matter in court." However, had the same 100 people died at the hands of the Taliban, they would have knocked on that family's door and said: "Congratulations, we have sent 100 of your clansmen to heaven, now YOU pay us compensation and give 1 heir from each family for jihad, if you choose to say otherwise, we will just kill another 100 people."
That my friends is the difference.............
 
I have an Afghan friend named Junaid, once last year an ISAF plane accidentally bombed a marriage ceremony in Afghanistan, killing 100 people. I went to him and asked:"Don't these things make you hate ISAF ?"
His reply hit me like a solid brick wall at 210kmph, he said "The ISAF people will knock on that family's door next morning, admit that they made a horrible mistake and compensate the family by paying them blood money, giving jobs to each heir, taking full responsibility for the family's medical and educational needs and give them the alternative to pursue the matter in court." However, had the same 100 people died at the hands of the Taliban, they would have knocked on that family's door and said: "Congratulations, we have sent 100 of your clansmen to heaven, now YOU pay us compensation and give 1 heir from each family for jihad, if you choose to say otherwise, we will just kill another 100 people."
That my friends is the difference.............

lol, that's not what this video is showing:


like i said, i can prove you wrong a thousand time, but your ignorance will not let you believe!

BTW, what kind of human being would forget about the death of their family members and take money from those who killed them?

like i said, Taliban will never be defeated :pakistan:

clearly Taliban are gaining support! And people say "Taliban will lose", that is the biggest joke on the face of this earth! Seriously, even Chris Rock can't come up with such hilarious jokes:rofl:!
 
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Dear Silent,

The death of these civilians are as painful as the death of those killed by the Taliban. I ask you something: In paksitan you have also got the problem of Taliban, your army is engaged in a full scale war against your taliban with no prospect of any near end to that war. Dont you think the civilians have been killed by the PA's fire power? what is your reaction to that civilian casualty in the hands of PA?
 
the Taliban killed 27 people in around Helmand province(old news), they were all from the same province of Laghman, they were on their way to Iran to find work, the taliban caught and beheaded them all in charge of spying. Here is a protest against the Taliban in this province. There are alot of videos that all of us can post to prove our points, but non of them on their own can definately be the ultimate judgement and verdict of Afghan people. there is no question that the Taliban have some support, but they are certainly not popular group and their support is very limited, people get frustrated by these insecurity but that does not mean they prefer the Taliban. Dont we have insecurity in Pakistan too? Do the Pakistani public want the taliban instead of this gov? the answer is a big no. Here is the video of protest against the taliban because of the slaying of those 27 young guys. By the way i come from this province.

 
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Yep, Afghans hate Taliban and they want America to stay:



Taliban will never be defeated, mark my words!:pakistan:
 
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Yep, Afghans hate Taliban and they want America to stay:

YouTube - Afghans' anger at Obama's Nobel peace prize win - 10 December 09

YouTube - Afghan anger at government over civilian deaths - 24 Mar 09

Taliban will never be defeated, mark my words!:pakistan:

As i said above, these videos on their own cant be the verdict of afghan people. if you say so then what do you think about the video i posted? Afghans dont love the Americans, but they dont want them to leave afghanistan either until things get settled down. Do the afghans want americans leave right now and the taliban take over? the answer is a big NO!

I asked you a question about the civilian casualty of Pakistanis by the PA fire power, what do you call that and what is your reaction to taht?
 
Taliban winning hearts and minds:




Don't worry, within a few years even the Northern Alliance will switch sides and join Taliban against American forces! its only a matter of time!
 
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Huge differences with the War against the Soviets and now. The Mujaheddin had the financial, logistical, and technical support of a number of countries. They also had the overall support of the people.

Today the Taliban even with their drug money does not enjoy that level of support. Every time they blow up a school. Use the civilians as human shields. Or march into a village and executing the men. They alienate themselves from the civilian populace. And without winning the hearts and minds of the civilian populace. An insurgency is doomed to fail eventually.

No Human being wants to live in fear. And fear has been the only tool the Taliban have been adept at using from even before 9/11. Once the people realize they no longer have to live in fear. Then you will see true change come to Afghanistan.

When you live in darkness for so long and then experience the light. You learn to appreciate life in new ways.

Question for you Fundamentalist. If you believe so strongly in the Taliban and their methods and ideology. Why are you not fighting with them? Or do you work with them already? Not that I expect you to really have the guts to answer that last one.

No doubt , being Khan love them also all muslim are just like one body , although i dont agree with style of governance and forced islam methodology of talaban.

My point is ISAF should use political sources , present war is just to force them on peace talk which also wrong method, Talaban shourah can be convinced to lay down their arms , i can assure you but through dialogues not with force.


But ISAF and Obama should also take soft tone , war is not solution of any problem.
 
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