The story of Zhang Zhixin

[Bussard Ramjet]

Culture revolution is deemed a failure by Chinese because it gotten out of hands, but like all things in the real world, it is rarely complete successes or complete failures. Similarly, the second five year plan is deemed a failure because it did not achieve the overall objective, but still yielded a lot of positive results.

Like someone already said, China is China today with its past failures and India is India today without those failures. You are sitting on the forum wondering why on earth India is still struggling with social, religion, ethnic problems and hoping your God Modi will magically fix the industrialization problems. A decade later you'd still be doing the same thing and probably still cursing culture revolution and early rapid industrialization effort by China while the Chinese move on to even better things.

The Chinese made peace with our past a long time ago and you should be worrying about your own problems.

Every country has its time when it finds best opportunity to grow.

Just 3 decades back, everyone was asking the same question about China. But China grew right?

Similarly, India will continue to grow. Not at the break neck speeds with which China did, but it will continue to grow at annual average rate of 7% over the next 2 decades.

A country can't be judged by only the present. China used to be called the "Sick men of Asia" for a long time. But it has now turned that over. Similarly, while India is a late entrant into the development game, it is nevertheless, getting seriously into it.

He claimed to be an atheist(dunno eat beef or not), that's why PDF hindus dislike him.

I didn't know other Indians, "disliked" me.

Any source?

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

He claimed to be an atheist(dunno eat beef or not), that's why PDF hindus dislike him.

No shit. I imagine it would be really hard for an Indian to be a true atheist. Just like it would be really hard for a Chinese to be faithfully religious.

Rising above ordinary indians，Mr Ramjet is on his path to achieve eternal enlightenment and true greatness!!!
.. or something is wrong with his head.

 

[AndrewJin]

No shit. I imagine it would be really hard for an Indian to be a true atheist. Just like it would be really hard for a Chinese to be faithfully religious.

Rising above ordinary indians，Mr Ramjet is on his path to achieve eternal enlightenment and true greatness!!!
.. or something is wrong with his head.

I hope he won't be offended by his compatriots in PDF, if he really is an atheist and eats beef.

 

[tranquilium]

Every country has its time when it finds best opportunity to grow.

Just 3 decades back, everyone was asking the same question about China. But China grew right?

Similarly, India will continue to grow. Not at the break neck speeds with which China did, but it will continue to grow at annual average rate of 7% over the next 2 decades.

A country can't be judged by only the present. China used to be called the "Sick men of Asia" for a long time. But it has now turned that over. Similarly, while India is a late entrant into the development game, it is nevertheless, getting seriously into it.



I didn't know other Indians, "disliked" me.

Any source?

Yeah, but China showed a consistent growing trend since 1950. On the other hand, India's stagnation has been observed since 1947. India started off with much better infrastructure and assets than China (though not more strength, considering India's abysmal military record and People's Republic of China was able to take on a 16 nation UN force a year after its founding). People doesn't point the problem with India's method because it is poor today. They point it out because India has been consistently poor and doesn't show a sign for improvement.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

No shit. I imagine it would be really hard for an Indian to be a true atheist. Just like it would be really hard for a Chinese to be faithfully religious.

Rising above ordinary indians，Mr Ramjet is on his path to achieve eternal enlightenment and true greatness!!!
.. or something is wrong with his head.

Many people in India are atheist.

And most of the people in my family don't take religion too seriously anyways.

Yeah, but China showed a consistent growing trend since 1950. On the other hand, India's stagnation has been observed since 1947. India started off with much better infrastructure and assets than China (though not more strength, considering India's abysmal military record and People's Republic of China was able to take on a 16 nation UN force a year after its founding). People doesn't point the problem with India's method because it is poor today. They point it out because India has been consistently poor and doesn't show a sign for improvement.

India is growing at a pace of 7% for the last 2 decades. How does that amount to stagnation?

Rather Chinese growth levels were also not so stellar until the late 70s.

India GDP Annual Growth Rate | 1951-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar


India's GDP growth since 1947 has averaged 6%.

 

[tranquilium]

Many people in India are atheist.

And most of the people in my family don't take religion too seriously anyways.



India is growing at a pace of 7% for the last 2 decades. How does that amount to stagnation?

Rather Chinese growth levels were also not so stellar until the late 70s.

India GDP Annual Growth Rate | 1951-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar


India's GDP growth since 1947 has averaged 6%.

And China average 6.7% growth from 1952 to 1978. So by your definition India's entire performance is sub-stellar.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

I hope he won't be offended by his compatriots in PDF, if he really is an atheist and eats beef.

Indians are very tolerant against other Indians, especially atheists.

And China average 6.7% growth from 1952 to 1978. So by your definition India's entire performance is sub-stellar.

Source?

 

[CHN Bamboo]

More Indians have stopped believing in God: Survey - Times of India

2.87 million Indians have no faith, census reveals for first time - The Times of India

However..
Sherlock (Bangalore)
1000 people is a miniscule sample from one billion people. Doesn’t necessarily reflect real scenario.
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[Nan Yang]

Culture revolution is deemed a failure by Chinese because it gotten out of hands, but like all things in the real world, it is rarely complete successes or complete failures. Similarly, the second five year plan is deemed a failure because it did not achieve the overall objective, but still yielded a lot of positive results.

Like someone already said, China is China today with its past failures and India is India today without those failures. You are sitting on the forum wondering why on earth India is still struggling with social, religion, ethnic problems and hoping your God Modi will magically fix the industrialization problems. A decade later you'd still be doing the same thing and probably still cursing culture revolution and early rapid industrialization effort by China while the Chinese move on to even better things.

The Chinese made peace with our past a long time ago and you should be worrying about your own problems.

Like to share two of my favorite Chinese proverbs.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Those social problems were already over by 1950s, after the Communist Revolution, and the whole scale plundering of land lords in 1949s.

Cultural Revolution was against the people who were not willing any more to live under Mao's failed policies of Great Leap Forward.



Really!

Only one event can define everything like this?

yes. To be honest the only way to change a society like China's is to silence the opposition because there are always hereditary entrenched interests. Chiang Kai Shek failed and his family ran any parts of China he governed as a personal fiefdom and people as personal property until his family was forced out of office. Kim Jong Un is the last hereditary leader of an Asian country but Chiang Ching Kuo was the second to last.