I knew one, he said they prefer independence.
Sure lets take your word on that. One from this forum (in which case who?) Or one from real life?
I've met Tibetans and Uighurs saying they prefer independence...does that change anything on the ground?
First it was an invasion and now it's a little probe. Can you make up your mind? An invasion or a probe? Yes, I told you before, you can believe whatever you want to make you feel better. With the Viets, again, I think it wasn't a total victory but with you it's obvious.
A probe is an invasion silly. It involves entering the territory of another country...and can be a wide range of sizes. Read up on the Battle of Kursk some day maybe.
Again we don't care what you think was a victory or not. You don't seem to get this do you?
I mean did Vietnam withdraw from Cambodia (the very reason you invaded them)?
Did China manage to threaten Hanoi at any point after losing all that material and men and playing into Vietnams defenders advantage?
All I see is you complaining about Indians obsession with China....and here you are indulging in what exactly?
Just because we don't employ force, it does not mean we are not capable of employing force. The non-interference stance is changing soon.
Lame empty rhetoric. No ones going to hold their breath for sure. Many years ago one of your own members on this forum was jumping up and down and saying the invasion of Vietnam was imminent (in another forum where he could indulge more in his fantasies).....because of the anti-China riots that were sparked there....and still nothing happened.
Full of wild desires and keyboard warring your CPC troll lot are
Pakistan and Bangladesh are bound to split due to geography. Does it matter, it's still two muslim countries flanking India. Exporting millions of illegal immigrants into India, that itself is a weapon.
Pakistan doesn't export "millions" of illegal immigrants into India...what are you talking about? Bangladesh its a more complicated situation....but its no weapon for sure since we extract plenty from them in return.
Again, we chose not to interfere, that's in our interest. In the end, it doesn't really change the equation. We are still supporting Bangladesh with our weapons.
And the Bangladeshis let us check out these weapons thoroughly. Good job. Business for you, clarity of threat for us. Win -win.
We can't deal with the Pinoys and Vietnam because of US & Russia. You do knw tht right? We also can't deal with you because of US and Russia. Is that something to be proud of when you need to be a baby protected by others?
Want a tissue about it? Fact is you can't deal with them...US and Russia arent going away....so whats the game plan for China? Sit and whine forever? Its getting quite tiring and boring.
Firstly, we have debt but it's in Yuan. And do you have official figures of how much our debt is? Are you even sure we need 6$ to produce 1$ of growth, is that even possible or logical?
Its based on estimated and analysis by various financial groups. China being afraid to release the data and biting the bullet is only lending credence to the fact its something nastily huge.
The 6 dollar of debt is for growing by 1 dollar (not producing what you already are). Learn the difference between an existing level and growth. Its an estimate by Morgan Stanley if you want to look it up further.
You should make a trip to China, don't go to a tier I city, go to a tier III city and see the living standard as compared to good ole bharat. Again how communist is China? China maybe autocratic, but can you tell me which communist country has got a share market? You guys had been harping and wishing China to explode since the 80s. Dude, hoping for your rival to explode is not a strategy, you need to work hard to overtake a rival 5 times your economy.
I've been to China (Chengdu mostly but also some of the other cities). There is good and there is bad.
And there you go again speaking about "you guys" in its absolute entirety. I certainly dont think all or even most or many Chinese wish ill on India (maybe a large part of the defence board geeks do)...same goes for Indians regarding China.
You are getting too sidetracked, calm down and relax....and learn to deal with your obsession before labeling others as such.
Fact is fact, your country is still starving and yet you keep on dreaming in Bollywood style. Please feed your people first. Your country is like an African country. Do you want more?
We are feeding them a lot better than your "brother" Pakistan (And improving a lot faster)....and continue to improve the situation each year. Absolute poverty is now measured in India as low as 12.4% in 2011 by the World Bank (so even lower now). But you can keep indulging in your obsession with demeaning us in whichever way you can think of. Water off a ducks back as far as I'm concerned....it just illustrates some basic realities are hitting you quite hard for some reason.
typical Indian logics, why not you compare the distance between Sikkim and Beijing? Use google maps and see how far Calcuta to Sikkim compared to Chengdu. There is nothing we can do? We are already doing it? Why do you think we arm the NE rebels? It's just to tenderize the meat before we fry it.
You see you spout a lot about the NE rebels, but you provide no evidence or data. Do you even know the numbers that supposedly operate now in the NE and what size groups they are and where they are forced to live now comapared to before? The tibetan liberation movement is a hundred times stronger because it has invested in the pen, not sword.
Has a world leader even met one of the NE rebel leaders at any point when they were active? Its why they were snuffed out, they never connected with anyone, they couldnt get enough of their people to support them and then they lost the local support entirely. You seem to be very ill-informed about the current reality. But if you want to keep your fantasy going, thats fine.
As far as logistics go, since when has any army relied on the nearest major city as a measure of it? The reasons why China left South Tibet have nothing to do with how far their major cities are from it...and everything to do with the local geography and nature of the passes and time of year. You are quite an amateur it seems when you analyse this conflict. You seem to know nothing about how an army operates tactically in such areas and the reasons behind judging the feasibility of an area's defense.