The slow poisoning of Pakistan - Mera Jisam meri marzi is anti-thesis of Islam

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

People, or women, are not stupid. What is more logical will, eventually, take root. If your counter argument had more logic in it, you will see these people abandon their ideas, or the majority never pick up the liberal values.

when the West abandoned believing in God what the logic behind that, or just because the majority believe in Godlessness does that make it true?

 

[LeGenD]

sir i respect your disagreement with me

Pakistanis population living in villages and towns have real issue . and we both agree domestic valiance 99% did not reported . daily millions of ladies being tortured day night and no one know it .

Rural population (% of total population) in Pakistan was reported at 63.09 % in 2019,

Good Sir,

A large number of areas are underdeveloped and education levels are very low in them. Furthermore, those in power are not necessarily values-driven characters either; very likely to abuse power for personal gains or due to inflated ego. Feminism cannot address these issues however. These areas necessitate good governance, much better policing system, values-building and accountability on the other hand. But how many realize and pay attention to real issues?

I would also want to know about how many women HIT men in Pakistan.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

There are horrible videos circulating on whatsapp where these b***** are chanting very blasphemous stuff. It is very clear their intention is not to get rights for women but to clash with and destroy our cultural values. Iwonder what is the problem with these commoes and elite class aunties? Its them who treat their domestic workers harshly.
Actually i blame those beghairat men of their houses. This is the result when men earn money with haram means and then take that haram money n feed their daughters/sisters with it. What can u expect when a whole class of new generation brought up with haram money of corruption and theft.

yeah. the only way these women act like this is because they all the men of their household are cucks.

 

[Imran Khan]

now pakistnai men realizing thet religion can save them and using religion as a tool .

if men have follow the really religion there was no such need of aurat march first place

where islam said

wanni - karo kari- sawara - honor killing - torture - forced marriages - force conversion - forced pregnancy - harassment - publicly urine - ژغ یا غگ - thousands daily harresed in public transport - can be done ? men should enter Islam first before using it against feminism .

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

now pakistnai men realizing thet religion can save them and using religion as a tool .

if men have follow the really religion there was no such need of aurat march first place

where islam said

wanni - karo kari- sawara - honor killing - torture - forced marriages - force conversion - forced pregnancy - harassment - publicly urine - ژغ یا غگ - can be done ? men should enter Islam first before using it against feminism .

and your solution is to dump religion? waah.

 

[Lincoln]

Hello everyone,

This issue is a few days old but deserves raising again as the "mara jism meri mazi" (میرا جسم میری مرضی) narrative is an antithesis of Islam and even though it has gone for this year, it will resurface again, and again until made to stop.

Islam (اسلام) literally means "Surrender" (تسلیم), "to give up yourself" and accept commandments of Allah Subhan Wa Taela. This means I surrender myself, I surrender my will, my money, my desired, my wants, my personal like and dislike, my preferences and my existence before the Will of Allah Subhan was Taela and, and this is my conscious and willful oath I have taken by choice to become Muslim.

Now Mera Jism Meri Marzi is the anti-thesis of this principle. What this narrative says is that "I own my will and I will execute it however I will, I am not surrendering my will before anyone" and "I am, so I will as I wish". In literal words, this is the antithesis of Islam, the anti-thesis of surrender. The narrative that I have the right to wear less, be exposed or naked, have relationships with a boy or a girl or both at the same time - is the ultimate objective of this poisonous initiative.

Our sisters, daughters and mothers who are a victim of this propaganda do not know what sin they are committing. They do not understand that this slogan is a purposeful venom, a poison that some ignorant or enemies at heart are injection into my Nation, year after year after year.

My countrymen, slow poisoning is the only possible poisoning. If you poison fast, like inject concentrated venom into a plant, the plant instantly kills its own branch where the poison had gone and saves the rest of its body. But if the poisoning is slow, the plant will not resist and will die. A Nation too is like a plant that has a body and roots in the principles. "Mera jism meri marzi" is a diluted venom that is directed towards our National roots. A few Pakistan based NGOs are attacking the spirit of Paksitan, the very foundation of why we exist.

Save Paksitan. Save our Nation by blocking this slow poisoning.

I see the court has permitted to conduct rallies in the name of freedom of expression. A judge has said "we cannot block freedom of expression", I wonder if freedom of expression cannot be blocked then is not every crime too an expression? Drugs are an expression, robbery is an expression, corruption is an expression and so is treason. What else can you permit in the name of freedom of expression? Allah has given you all the principles you need to make decisions, as a leader and a judge - you have to follow them.

I really hope people in power and patriotic circles are aware and working to kill this cancer. People who are part of "mera jism meri marzi", willfully or in their ignorance are attacking the roots of Paksitan, the very foundation and reason why we are who we are.

May Allah save my Nation, my country and may we prosper to rise one of the strongest Nations on the planet.

Wasalaam,
Graphican

You're overcomplicating the slogan. It simply means the right to one's body. The right to decision making. The right to health. The right to dress. The right to consent.

And there's nothing wrong with that.
Even if you believe it is against Islam, you will eventually have to come to the understanding that not everyone wishes to live according to Islam.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

You're overcomplicating the slogan. It simply means the right to one's body. The right to decision making. The right to health. The right to dress. The right to consent.

And there's nothing wrong with that.
Even if you believe it is against Islam, you will eventually have to come to the understanding that not everyone wishes to live according to Islam.

then call it the "murtad aurat and communist march"

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

It means that they don't want men dictating their lives, and they want the full control over their bodies prescribed to them in their religion. It isn't the pagal type of feminism you see in first world countries. However, some foreign funded commie/neo-lib groups are trying to hijack it and give it the meaning you are describing.

First of all if they wanted all they why not sit with govt and sort it our instead of all this drama ?

Then demand those things which are being worked out as if nothing is being done healthcare being one of em..

Lastly why not stick to women rights instead of bashing Pakistani institutions, politicians etc.. or putting out demands which have nothing to do with em ?

happy to see people of pakistan on fire

public here is a bit backward some 100 to 150 from rest of world


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Public is backwards thats the reason these aurat march type dramas have a place to exist

 

[Lincoln]

Hello everyone,

This issue is a few days old but deserves raising again as the "mara jism meri mazi" (میرا جسم میری مرضی) narrative is an antithesis of Islam and even though it has gone for this year, it will resurface again, and again until made to stop.

Islam (اسلام) literally means "Surrender" (تسلیم), "to give up yourself" and accept commandments of Allah Subhan Wa Taela. This means I surrender myself, I surrender my will, my money, my desired, my wants, my personal like and dislike, my preferences and my existence before the Will of Allah Subhan was Taela and, and this is my conscious and willful oath I have taken by choice to become Muslim.

Now Mera Jism Meri Marzi is the anti-thesis of this principle. What this narrative says is that "I own my will and I will execute it however I will, I am not surrendering my will before anyone" and "I am, so I will as I wish". In literal words, this is the antithesis of Islam, the anti-thesis of surrender. The narrative that I have the right to wear less, be exposed or naked, have relationships with a boy or a girl or both at the same time - is the ultimate objective of this poisonous initiative.

Our sisters, daughters and mothers who are a victim of this propaganda do not know what sin they are committing. They do not understand that this slogan is a purposeful venom, a poison that some ignorant or enemies at heart are injection into my Nation, year after year after year.

My countrymen, slow poisoning is the only possible poisoning. If you poison fast, like inject concentrated venom into a plant, the plant instantly kills its own branch where the poison had gone and saves the rest of its body. But if the poisoning is slow, the plant will not resist and will die. A Nation too is like a plant that has a body and roots in the principles. "Mera jism meri marzi" is a diluted venom that is directed towards our National roots. A few Pakistan based NGOs are attacking the spirit of Paksitan, the very foundation of why we exist.

Save Paksitan. Save our Nation by blocking this slow poisoning.

I see the court has permitted to conduct rallies in the name of freedom of expression. A judge has said "we cannot block freedom of expression", I wonder if freedom of expression cannot be blocked then is not every crime too an expression? Drugs are an expression, robbery is an expression, corruption is an expression and so is treason. What else can you permit in the name of freedom of expression? Allah has given you all the principles you need to make decisions, as a leader and a judge - you have to follow them.

I really hope people in power and patriotic circles are aware and working to kill this cancer. People who are part of "mera jism meri marzi", willfully or in their ignorance are attacking the roots of Paksitan, the very foundation and reason why we are who we are.

May Allah save my Nation, my country and may we prosper to rise one of the strongest Nations on the planet.

Wasalaam,
Graphican

The basis of Pakistan is freedom, and that included the freedom of religious practice free from revolt by the people from the other religion, freedom from majoritarism, sadly it has dissolved into that very thing.

We are basically a 'Muslim Rashtra.'

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

What if they are chanting against high crimes like honor killing ?

And caste ? Do you really want casteism to remain ?

That is their right but instead of chanting why not work with govt to get rid of it ?

 

[LeGenD]

lot of them arent dressed properly, and they are chanting slogans that are un-Islamic.

I saw a thinly clothed women in a shopping mall not long ago. She was probably a model. I lowered my gaze though.

 

[Verve]

aurat march is for awareness sir

Below is such 'awareness', right?

 

[Imran Khan]

Below is such 'awareness', right?
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its photo shopped by dirty men what a shame we have such men in society.

this is why we need aurat march

 

[graphican]

Freedom of expression, you live in a free state.

When people have no other counter-argument except religion then people resort to forceful silence.

People, or women, are not stupid. What is more logical will, eventually, take root. If your counter argument had more logic in it, you will see these people abandon their ideas, or the majority never pick up the liberal values.

It's as simple as that. There's no propaganda here. All the facts and information are bare for everyone to judge from.


Freedom of expression does not imply the freedom to violence. You cannot put crimes under the umbrella of 'freedom of expression.'

@Lincoln,

Freedom of expression is a misnomer. There is always selective freedom of expression permitted under the boundary of law. If the freedom of expression is a blanket excuse than isn't treason a freedom of expression?

Coming back to these ladies. Look at the leaders to judge what the movement is all about. Look who's the face behind "women rights"... people who are being paid to lead a movement. Find a corrupt person fighting for justice and you know what kind of justice he stands far.

Pakistanis will stand shoulder to shoulder with any movement when it - is - for justice. Our Prime Minister came to power advocating it, why would countrymen not stand with the pressed women if this was indeed the eventual goal.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

aurat march is not law enforcement agency . aurat march is for awareness sir

how many people were arrested last time when someone arrange rally against corruption ?

And what awareness has it created ? Other than bashing army politicians and Islamic scholars ?

Has it not been approached by ministry of Human Rights? Did they work with them ?