The Shattering of the Muslim Hope in India

[Sharma Ji]

Cant really find the connection between what i listed up and what you listed up.

Why do thousands of innocent muslims in Gurajat have to be be killed because a train fire 1000 km away that was the result of an accident. What has bombings in the 90s had to do with Delhi? Dont you have judiciary and police to handle this stuff?

So in your opinion your are simply having revenge on 200 million muslims where 99,9999999% had nothing to do with what you just mentioned?! What kind of disturbed logic is that!?

Was Babri demolition too a revenge for what someone did 500 or 800 years ago? Why stop there; would it be OK if muslims decide to avenge and demolish every temple if muslims get back in power somehow? I hope not.

You conveniently dodged a whole lot of the other stuff i mentioned. 250 million people and close to zero representation in parliament. In South Africa this was called apartheid.

Muzzies? What is that … derogatary name for muslims? Haha you just proved everything i said and in OP’s article.

Not interested in nitpicking every little thing, don't have time for that. I was making a broader point without necessarily rubbishing those points. I also agreed that there is some strife within India between the muslims and who they see as the kafirs.

That said, we still make it work.

 

[Wergeland 2.0]

Not interested in nitpicking every little thing, don't have time for that. I was making a broader point without necessarily rubbishing those points. I also agreed that there is some strife within India between the muslims and who they see as the kafirs.

That said, we still make it work.

To each his own.

You know , its your country, not mine.
But from a logical POV i cannot understand why opressing a minority would make your country more stable, wealthy and happy. This minority will soon be twice as large as the whole polulation of Russia, and soon the world seconds largest concentration of muslims in a single country. And you have a 250 million strong muslim neighbor who happen to see itself as protector of this minorities faith. Plus another neighbor with soon 200 million muslims, which is more friendly to you but could soon also change its mind.

 

[khansaheeb]

I have a sneaky suspicion he? will be just fine.

Poor guy (and all the other Muslims in India) is at the last step (persecution) before extermination on the stage of genocide:-

The ten stages of genocide​

Genocide is a human phenomenon that can be analysed and understood, and consequently, may be prevented. According to academic and activist Gregory H. Stanton, genocide is a process that develops in ten stages, described here. The stages do not necessarily follow a linear progression and may coexist. Prevention measures may be implemented at any stage.

1. Classification​

Groups in a position of power will categorize people according to ethnicity, race, religion or nationality employing an us versus them mentality.
Prevention: Create universalistic institutions that foster social cohesion.

2. Symbolisation​

People are identified as Jews, Roma or Tutsis, etc., and made to stand out from others with certain colours or symbolic articles of clothing.
Prevention: Ban the symbols and hate speech and all clothing meant to discriminate against groups.

3. Discrimination​

A dominant group uses laws, customs, and political power to deny the rights of other groups. The powerless group may not be granted full civil rights or even citizenship.
Prevention: Ensure full political empowerment and citizenship rights for all groups in a society. Discrimination on the basis of nationality, ethnicity, race or religion should be outlawed.

4. Dehumanisation​

The diminished value of the discriminated group is communicated through propaganda. Parallels are drawn with animals, insects or diseases.
Prevention: Promptly denounce and punish perpetrators and make hate crimes and speech culturally unacceptable. Sanction all incitements to commit genocide.

5. Organisation​

A state, its army or militia design genocidal killing plans.
Prevention: Outlaw membership in these militias and sanction their leaders. Impose arms embargoes on the countries involved and create commissions of inquiry.

6. Polarisation​

Propaganda is employed to amplify the differences between groups. Interactions between groups are prohibited, and the moderate members of the group in power are killed.
Prevention: Protect these moderate members and human rights groups. Seize the assets of the oppressors and refuse their access to international travel.

7. Preparation​

The victims are identified, separated and forced to wear symbols. Deportations, isolation and forcible starvation. Death lists are drawn up.
Prevention: Humanitarian aid, armed international interventions or major support for the victims to ensure their ability to defend themselves.

8. Persecution​

Victims are identified and isolated based on their ethnic or religious identity. Death lists are drawn up. In state sponsored genocides, members of victim groups may be forced to wear identifying symbols. Their property is often expropriated.
Prevention: Regional organisations and the international community must mobilise themselves to assist or help the victims.

9. Extermination​

The massacres begin. The perpetrators see their actions as “extermination” since they do not consider their victims to be entirely human.
Prevention: Only large-scale armed interventions can stop genocide. The international community must support the operations by providing air transport, equipment and financial support.

10. Denial​

The perpetrators of the genocide deny having committed their crimes. Victims are often blamed. Evidence is hidden and witnesses are intimidated.
Prevention: An international tribunal or national court must prosecute the criminals. Public education.

 

[Rollno21]

Both.

They hear about lynching and hate speech cases everyday.

They themselves feel like they are viewed with suspicion. And their patriotism is questioned.

And don't these people hear the hate speeches of some Muslim leaders you should share those with them someday, its politics being played for votes playing with the emotions of both the parties involved.

Anyone irrespective of religion or anything else are viewed with suspicion and patriotism questioned if someone have anything else above the country in the list.

 

[Pandora]

What hope? When Indian Muslims demonized pro Pakistani leaders they made their beds so no need to whine about it now. Even Zakir naik had that Keera where he use to criticize Jinnah but we all saw what happened to him. Indian muslims have no other choice but to die out slowly or convert.

 

[Rollno21]

To each his own.

You know , its your country, not mine.
But from a logical POV i cannot understand why opressing a minority would make your country more stable, wealthy and happy. This minority will soon be twice as large as the whole polulation of Russia, and soon the world seconds largest concentration of muslims in a single country. And you have a 250 million strong muslim neighbor who happen to see itself as protector of this minorities faith. Plus another neighbor with soon 200 million muslims, which is more friendly to you but could soon also change its mind.

Dude you are calling someone minority which is larger than your countries population. How are they prosecuted.

Yes,I agree there are some incidents which happened in india ,but if you look up Muslims have killed more Muslims in Muslim countries.but you are worried about few incidents in India.

Indian muslims have no other choice but to die out slowly or convert.

First part is your imagination ,second part can happen if they want to seek truth and become believers on their own will.

 

[Andhadhun]

Meanwhile in the Real world,

weekly roundup of hate crimes, persecution, and discrimination against Hindus

weekly summary for the period from 27 February to 5 March 2022, we hope to provide a snapshot of such crimes and hopefully awaken more people around the world to this human rights crisis:

Bharat​

1) As per a Bengali newspaper cutting shared by a Twitter user, three grooming jihadis were nabbed by the state police when they were lurking around the Polerhat High school in the Kashipur Thana area in South 24 Parganas district. The three men have been identified as Rohit Molla, Mahfuz Molla, and Rafikul Ali.

2) Three men hired by fraudster Anees Ali were held for shooting at Dr. Keshav Agarwal in UP.

3) We have seen time and again the insensitivity displayed by the IAS cadres towards Hindus and Hindu Dharma. The root cause of this problem is the training they receive. Earlier, we saw how the Drishti IAS coaching center preached Marxism to its students. Now, it has come to light that the faculty at Vision IAS has been spewing venom against Hindu Dharma and presenting factually incorrect information regarding the Bhakti movement.

4) On February 18, officers of the Jhalda Excise Department raided Rabidi village of Baghmundi police station in Purulia district of West Bengal and picked up a 26-year-old Hindu ST (Scheduled Tribe) youth, Shikari Mura. Locals allege that they had detained Mura on baseless allegations of trading illegal liquor.

5) ‘Secular’ politicians like Sharad Pawar and his daughter Supriya Sule among others have now indulged in new propaganda denying the role of Swami Samarth Ramdas as the Guru of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj.

6) Sharif Sohail from Indore in Madhya Pradesh groomed a minor girl from another community, converted her to Islam, ‘married’ her, raped and impregnated her and their premature baby is now in the government Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU). Astonishingly, Indore police arrested him on February 18, but he was granted bail and went absconding.

7) Reports have emerged of violence breaking out on Mahashivratri day at Ladle Mashak Dargah in Kalburgi District’s Aland. It has come to light that a Muslim mob pelted stones on Hindus and police personnel following which the Karnataka Police have arrested 167 persons, including 10 women in connection with the incident and the district administration has clamped prohibitory orders till Friday. Investigations have also revealed that the violence was planned.

Bangladesh​

1) A Hindu woman and her pregnant daughter were brutally stabbed to death on Tuesday, March 1, by a man named Al Jobayer in the Nitaiganj area of Narayangunj.

2) Mohammad Nazmul, Iqbal & Biplob brutally attacked Jony Chandra Shill and his family members at Goulabaria, Shitakundha.

3) Charmonai Pir Syed Muhammad Rezaul Karim, who is a leader of Bangladeshi Deobandi and the second leader of Islami Andolan Bangladesh, converted a Hindu boy into Islam at his madrasa complex, Barishal.

World​

1) Thai Hindus protest Hindu-bashing article in Bangkok Post written by NYT ‘journalists’.

Dude you are calling someone minority which is larger than your countries population. How are they prosecuted.

Yes,I agree there are some incidents which happened in india ,but if you look up Muslims have killed more Muslims in Muslim countries.but you are worried about few incidents in India.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500098487173943296

 

[Black Tornado]

Gujarat masscre
Delhi masscre
cow lynchings
«love-jihad» lynchings
discrimination on housing market, discrimination on job market
neglible representation in the parliament
demolition of mosque
awarding of Babri mosque to hindu temple
hatred on twitter by hindu extremists
RSS
Bajrang Dal
Yogi extemist priest
Call for muslim genocide on mass hindu rallies
Islamophobic and hatefull rhetorhic on media

These are facts for eveyone to be seen.

I don’t care about opinions of pakistanis anyway, I live in India and I know the reality well.

 

[HydNizam]

Nonsense...even now 99 percent of muslims live fearlessly and with complete freedom in india. ..have you ever heard 10s of 100s of muslims getting killed in mosques while praying in india? Come and see here in hyderabad. ..or kerala, tamil nadu or karnataka...
But if muslims continue to provoke hindus unnecessarily like in the hijab issue now, hindus naturally develop hate for them .
Muslims should consider lucky that 99 percent hindus dont know what kind of language quran and hadees use for idol worshippers...99 percent of hindus dont know how many temples were destroyed by muslim kings....99.99 hindus dont know that these muslims pray for victory over kafirs in their juma prayers ( this i have not seen myself but heard numerous times from tarek fatah).
Ok...i have a question for the writer of the above article( and all those who sympathise with his false dramatic narration.....who has more chance of entering heaven?dawood ibrahim or mahatma gandhi?

This post sums up what all is wrong with Hindu mentality.
Nothing more to be said
As far as Indian Muslims are concerned . We have seen worse and will survive .

 

[Wood]

Akshay89 == Suvarna Teja ?

 

[aryadravida]

Meanwhile in the Real world,

weekly roundup of hate crimes, persecution, and discrimination against Hindus

weekly summary for the period from 27 February to 5 March 2022, we hope to provide a snapshot of such crimes and hopefully awaken more people around the world to this human rights crisis:

Bharat​

1) As per a Bengali newspaper cutting shared by a Twitter user, three grooming jihadis were nabbed by the state police when they were lurking around the Polerhat High school in the Kashipur Thana area in South 24 Parganas district. The three men have been identified as Rohit Molla, Mahfuz Molla, and Rafikul Ali.

2) Three men hired by fraudster Anees Ali were held for shooting at Dr. Keshav Agarwal in UP.

3) We have seen time and again the insensitivity displayed by the IAS cadres towards Hindus and Hindu Dharma. The root cause of this problem is the training they receive. Earlier, we saw how the Drishti IAS coaching center preached Marxism to its students. Now, it has come to light that the faculty at Vision IAS has been spewing venom against Hindu Dharma and presenting factually incorrect information regarding the Bhakti movement.

4) On February 18, officers of the Jhalda Excise Department raided Rabidi village of Baghmundi police station in Purulia district of West Bengal and picked up a 26-year-old Hindu ST (Scheduled Tribe) youth, Shikari Mura. Locals allege that they had detained Mura on baseless allegations of trading illegal liquor.

5) ‘Secular’ politicians like Sharad Pawar and his daughter Supriya Sule among others have now indulged in new propaganda denying the role of Swami Samarth Ramdas as the Guru of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj.

6) Sharif Sohail from Indore in Madhya Pradesh groomed a minor girl from another community, converted her to Islam, ‘married’ her, raped and impregnated her and their premature baby is now in the government Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU). Astonishingly, Indore police arrested him on February 18, but he was granted bail and went absconding.

7) Reports have emerged of violence breaking out on Mahashivratri day at Ladle Mashak Dargah in Kalburgi District’s Aland. It has come to light that a Muslim mob pelted stones on Hindus and police personnel following which the Karnataka Police have arrested 167 persons, including 10 women in connection with the incident and the district administration has clamped prohibitory orders till Friday. Investigations have also revealed that the violence was planned.

Bangladesh​

1) A Hindu woman and her pregnant daughter were brutally stabbed to death on Tuesday, March 1, by a man named Al Jobayer in the Nitaiganj area of Narayangunj.

2) Mohammad Nazmul, Iqbal & Biplob brutally attacked Jony Chandra Shill and his family members at Goulabaria, Shitakundha.

3) Charmonai Pir Syed Muhammad Rezaul Karim, who is a leader of Bangladeshi Deobandi and the second leader of Islami Andolan Bangladesh, converted a Hindu boy into Islam at his madrasa complex, Barishal.

World​

1) Thai Hindus protest Hindu-bashing article in Bangkok Post written by NYT ‘journalists’.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1500098487173943296

This post sums up what all is wrong with Hindu mentality.
Nothing more to be said
As far as Indian Muslims are concerned . We have seen worse and will survive .

mention a few incidents when you were discrimanted in india.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Akshay89 == Suvarna Teja ?

She was funny, he isn't

 

[Andhadhun]

This post sums up what all is wrong with Hindu mentality.
Nothing more to be said
As far as Indian Muslims are concerned . We have seen worse and will survive .

You are incredibly LUCKY this is the Hindu mentality.

You better pray that this mentality remains so that you can continue to be safe to Abuse Hindus more.

 

[Wood]

She was funny, he isn't

I think the ID Suvarna Teja was used by more than one user. It maybe the person was bipolar.

 

[khansaheeb]

The difference being most of the west is now atheist...they no more follow christianity...even most of israelis dont follow judaism anymore....even those who follow christianity and judaism are least bothered abt idol worship..they dont discuss concepts like shirk day in and day out....their prayers are limited to just some praises of god and seeking forgiveness of their sins.

we dont have any issues with them....although indian christians hold the same beliefs as muslims regarding idol worship, they are not radical or anti national like muslims....christianity preaches non violence....forgiveness...compassion(at least new testament)...they dont have the concept of ummah ..they dont place their religion above the nation...they love this country as much as any hindu does.

All religions have bad in them....however most of the religions reformed themselves ...when i look at a christian compassion, godliness,friendliness are the things that come to my mind...i dont feel threatened or odd (like when i see a muslim with long beard and strange looking pants; women covered in burkha ; big families with no concept of cleanliness or education ; bathing only on fridays; perfumes which cause headaches )

So why do you Indian Hindus try and burn their churches and lynch them at every opportunity?