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Sixty-five years after the death of its founding father, Pakistanis are still searching for Mohammed Ali Jinnah's vision for the country - and a missing historical speech.

During much of its existence, Pakistanis have been encouraged to believe that Mr Jinnah created Pakistan in the name of Islam as a theocratic state.

Others have disagreed, arguing the founding father wanted a Muslim-majority but secular and progressive country.

The debate over the two competing and contradictory visions has intensified in recent years as the country reels from growing Islamic extremism and Taliban militancy.

At the heart of this debate are some public addresses of Mr Jinnah given around the time of the partition of India in 1947.

Read the full speech here

Transcripts of those addresses have been available in Pakistan.
Crucial speech
The archives of state-owned broadcaster, Radio Pakistan, also contain cranky old audio recordings of most of those speeches, except for one: his address to the Constituent Assembly in the port city of Karachi on 11 August 1947, three days before the creation of Pakistan.

For liberals in Pakistan, it was a crucial speech in which Mr Jinnah spoke in the clearest possible terms of his dream that the country he was creating would be tolerant, inclusive and secular.

"You are free. You are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan," Jinnah declared. "You may belong to any religion or caste or creed - that has nothing to do with the business of the state."

Documented evidence suggest that Mr Jinnah's words didn't go down well with the powerful and ambitious religious ideologues around him at the time, who then made sure the speech was virtually blacked out in the next day's newspapers.
Why did that speech unsettle some Pakistani leaders so much? Many believe it was because it was seen at odds with the kind of anti-India, anti-Hindu, Islamic state they were trying to create and preserve their own power bases.

By the time Pakistan embarked on a process of Islamisation and introduced tough new laws aimed at religious minorities in the 1970s and 1980s, the more controversial bits of that speech were largely wiped out from public discourse.

Jinnah was repackaged as an Islamic leader, rather than a westernised secular man he had been for much of his life.

Successive military governments in Pakistan were accused of attempting to downplay, even remove, the speech from official records.
'Destroyed deliberately'
Along the way, whatever audio recording there might once have been of that crucial speech disappeared.

Mr Jinnah's ideals for Pakistan were further muddled, as the country's hardliners began to question whether the founding father had indeed said those words in his address, was he in the right frame of mind or what he might have meant by them.

"It's a case of criminal, wilful destruction of our history," alleges Murtaza Solangi, the former director general of Radio Pakistan.

He cannot say with certainty whether Pakistan ever possessed the audio recording of the 11 August speech.

But based on his persistent inquiries over the last few years, he's come to the conclusion that "if Pakistan ever had a copy of the speech on tape, it was probably destroyed deliberately".

In his quest to trace the audio, Solangi contacted the BBC in London. He was told the BBC archive didn't have the 'Jinnah tapes'. He then contacted All India Radio (AIR) in Delhi. Indian officials told him they have the speech.

But it took the Indian authorities another two years before they were forced to release the tapes in public domain -mainly in response to a request by an Indian Muslim activist under the country's Right to Information law.
Missing' tape
So, when the news came last week that All India Radio had handed over original recordings of two of Mr Jinnah's 1947 speeches to Radio Pakistan, it was seen as a breakthrough of sorts.

But Mr Solangi's excitement was somewhat dampened when it turned out that the crucial missing speech wasn't part of it. The recordings handed over last week are already a part of Radio Pakistan archives," he points out.

"The only difference is we now have them in much better, original quality."

The first of the two speeches handed over is believed to be Mr Jinnah's last address on radio within the borders of present day India. It was recorded on 3 June 1947, in Delhi.

The second tape consists of Mr Jinnah's well-known address to the Constituent Assembly in Karachi on the day the country came into existence: 14 August 1947.

It was recorded by sound engineers from All India Radio. They were invited to come to Karachi from Delhi because the country about to be born did not have radio stations equipped for such recordings.

AIR engineers are believed to have recorded both of Jinnah's speeches in Karachi: August 11th and 14th.

"They [AIR officials] initially told me they have the missing August 11th tape, but of late have become evasive about it," says Solangi.

"They have told others they don't have it. At the moment, we just don't know whether they have it or not."
Historic importance
Some in Pakistan suspect it may have to do with the dominant Indian narrative which paints Jinnah as the man responsible for large-scale Hindu-Muslim violence in the run up to the partition and the man who divided India.

But it's not entirely clear why, if the speech indeed exists, the authorities in India would hand over two of the Jinnah tapes, but not the 11 August speech.

"I doubt it's deliberate," says Raza Rumi, director of Jinnah Institute, an Islamabad-based think tank. "Given the red-tape in the Indian bureaucracy, I wouldn't be surprised if Pakistan's request for Jinnah tapes is simply stuck or lost in the system."

The recording of Jinnah's 11 August speech may be of great importance to students of history on both sides of the border.

But if ever found, could it really help Pakistan's seemingly marginalized liberals to win an argument with the hardliners and the religious right in reshaping the country's now deeply entrenched Islamic identity?

"It's not about trying to convince the religious zealots that Jinnah wanted a different kind of Pakistan," says Solangi.

"It's about correcting our distorted history and letting the people decide what kind of Pakistan they want."



 
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He wanted a Pakistan where people had light , water , and electricity. And Honey and Milk was available to people at cheap rate. And we did not import all our energy from outside. He wanted a Pakistan where we made Kala Bagh dam so people had fresh water to drink.

Paneer and Makhan (Cheese and Butter) was not only staple of Rich class who toasted it in morning while poor , had a cup of water + herbal tea for breakfast. There was eggs and other food items for all people. Not just hebal tea

Affordable meat and goods were available to citizens and there was no lack of food and people were not afraid to eat anything

Lastly he was in agreement to also have free medical care for all People

After all the above goals were met , during 10-19 minutes in day when person connects with his almighty and focus on his faith he was in agreement for private time for people to Pray freely
 
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Its not the 1940s anymore

We love Jinnah as the father of the nation but Pakistan a nation of 200 million is not nailed to one mans vision,

Whether he wanted a secular nation or islamic republic is irrespective, whats important is what 200 million Pakistanis want today, if the majority are inclined towards a religious state then minority should bow down to the masses will
 
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why don't people leave Pakistan, Jinnah and his vision, alone. Any society any country, any nation transforms with passage of time.
Mr. Jinnah himself change his attire and look like more Muslim, he used to wear suits, smoke cigars etc but he left every thing and adopted a more Muslim approach even he change his sect and became Ithna Ashari from Khoja community.
All those who are trying hard to prove that Qaid e Azam wants secular Pakistan are wrong he wants Islamic Pakistan but wants to insure that all the religion and sects respected in Pakistan.

There is nothing wrong with Pakistan but only corrupt politicians.
 
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Mr. Jinnah himself change his attire and look like more Muslim, he used to wear suits, smoke cigars etc but he left every thing and adopted a more Muslim approach even he change his sect and became Ithna Ashari from Khoja community.
All those who are trying hard to prove that Qaid e Azam wants secular Pakistan are wrong he wants Islamic Pakistan but wants to insure that all the religion and sects respected in Pakistan.

There is nothing wrong with Pakistan but only corrupt politicians.
oo please markhor. I said leave Jinnah alone. Jinnah was a very sophisticated man. And all those who are trying hard to prove him a mullah should have some mercy and pity . His occasional transformation should be taken as manifestation of political sensitivities.
 
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oo please markhor. I said leave Jinnah alone. Jinnah was a very sophisticated man. And all those who are trying hard to prove him a mullah should have some mercy and pity . His occasional transformation should be taken as manifestation of political sensitivities.

I don't understand one thing. Most of the Pakistani youth are calling for secularism for Pakistan. If that was the issue, then why did Pakistan need to be created? Obviously, it could have been a part of secular India.

These new age retards spit on the existence of their own nation. They curse their own ancestors that wanted to create a Muslim majority republic.
 
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I don't understand one thing. Most of the Pakistani youth are calling for secularism for Pakistan. If that was the issue, then why did Pakistan need to be created? Obviously, it could have been a part of secular India.

These new age retards spit on the existence of their own nation. They curse their own ancestors that wanted to create a Muslim majority republic.
Incorporating the word secular in constitution does not make a country secular.
 
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yea yea same bull crap without evidence and logic. Bugg off

:lol:

It was called Muslim League, not Secular League. Pakistan was literally made with the idea of it becoming an Islamic state. Only people who don't know history claim Pakistan was meant to be a secular state.

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why don't people leave Pakistan, Jinnah and his vision, alone. Any society any country, any nation transforms with passage of time.

Yup Absolutely right so did we.. But we Moved to be a pseudo liberal nation, produced a youth who is desperate and dying to get married just to satisfy its lust, who doesn't take failure seriously but instead its memes are made to make fun.How many of us are adapted in any extracurricular activity before graduating?

We shattered with passage of time into a confused nation.. From our clothing to eating. We are confused..Aren't we???
After 70 years even we can't decide which one of us is "Muslim" and to which one we should shoot .. Even after 70 years we are unable to decide which language is to given preference.. Apnay kisi b aas paas bachay se pooch li jie ga unsath or unhattar ka farq.. You'll see to what we moved on.

We tried to adopt the west to be liberal and cope up with progressing world but you know what we took from them on the name of liberalism? We only learnt to talk on "intimate" relationship publicly, to abuse in English, To watch p**n and topped in that list... We used advancements of technology to produce a morally corrupt youth...

Instead if we did stick to "Jinnah's Vision" We could have been better.. If not , At least less confused than now we are.
@Hell hound
 
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Yup Absolutely right so did we.. But we Moved to be a pseudo liberal nation, produced a youth who is desperate and dying to get married just to satisfy its lust, who doesn't take failure seriously but instead its memes are made to make fun.How many of us are adapted in any extracurricular activity before graduating?

We shattered with passage of time into a confused nation.. From our clothing to eating. We are confused..Aren't we???
After 70 years even we can't decide which one of us is "Muslim" and to which one we should shoot .. Even after 70 years we are unable to decide which language is to given preference.. Apnay kisi b aas paas bachay se pooch li jie ga unsath or unhattar ka farq.. You'll see to what we moved on.

We tried to adopt the west to be liberal and cope up with progressing world but you know what we took from them on the name of liberalism? We only learnt to talk on "intimate" relationship publicly, to abuse in English, To watch p**n and topped in that list... We used advancements of technology to produce a morally corrupt youth...

Instead if we did stick to "Jinnah's Vision" We could have been better.. If not , At least less confused than now we are.
@Hell hound
every nation faces these thing. Let people learn in the long run. They will transform and evolve into something moderate aka middle path which Islam stresses upon.
 
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every nation faces these thing. Let people learn in the long run. They will transform and evolve into something moderate aka middle path which Islam stresses upon.

I don't think so...We are the very first badge to get benefit from "blessings" of technology and see what we did. New generation would be more sharp and would evolve more ideas to elude.
The things are going to be worst until the new generation isn't taught to differentiate from what to pick and what not from table... Otherwise they would learn it when water would flood the bridge.
 
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