The Saudis reject Islamabad’s request to call an OIC's foreign minister meeting on Kashmir

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

From a Saudi perspective, they would have felt let down and cheated by Pakistan for not being reliable at the time of their need (in Yemen). The Arabs have stood with Pakistan to keep its economy afloat without much to show for in return. Be it soft loans or oil on deferred payments, both UAE and Saudi have been generous with Pakistan. In return, Pakistan has been overtly friendly with Turkey and conspired to form an alternate power block against Arab interests.

It was a given that at some point the Arabs were going to run out of patience.

A ‘time of need’ would be if the Saudis were actually under threat of military aggression, not when making a conscious decision to enter and exacerbate a civil war in a neighboring country.

Pakistan warned the Saudis against getting into Yemen, having experienced both the fallout of the Afghan civil war, the insurgent war in FATA & the history of external parties entering civil wars has not been positive.

 

[crankthatskunk]

No Kashmir agenda and resolution by OIC.

Imran made a mistake to miss the Malaysian summit.
Stuff the Arabs. I told you guys many times, they are no good.

They are now sucking up to the Israelis, because they think this is the best way to safeguard their arses from the whipping.

Anyone was expecting something different!!!
Hurry, go for a brain scan.

 

[Chhatrapati]

They are now sucking up to the Israelis, because they think this is the best way to safeguard their arses from the whipping.

Israelis do have the best Air defense that's being put to use at least once a week. Courtesy Hamas.

 

[Wood]

1st of all standing by Pakistan and giving loans or deferred loans is one thing and not the most important. What the GCC asked is Pakistan send in forces — have the Arabs ever done this during our times of war? KSA itself is useless during the Arab-Israeli Wars they never fully engaged but just to the point to keep their territory safe and that’s about it. After spending billions every year and having the latest weaponry they still need Pakistan?

We need to differentiate between lending and physical support in our relationship with them.

I’m honestly happy this is happening we can differentiate between friends and non friends and walk our own path without any baggage and create a new alliance.

If they did not put their money up and shore Pakistani forex reserves, then the country would have been subjected to more stringent IMF rules. Who is to say that this would not have affected Pakistan’s ability to pay for its armed forces? One could even reason that the Saudi generosity has kept Pakistan financially intact to deal with its mortal enemy. Partnership works by each side contributing what they are good at in a transactional basis. Arabs have money which they have promptly given to Pakistan for the country’s need. In return, Pakistan can be expected by the Arabs to be available to meet their military manpower needs.

didnt some hindutva lectured us on how every friendship is based on interests and is never more than that?

regards

I’m not sure whom you are referring to, but I don’t subscribe to the notion of friendship in international relations. This is just my personal opinion. International relations are often just transactional or strategic alignment of mutual interests. So if Pakistan expects the Arabs to stand with the Pakistani side exclusively, then there should be a proportional support from Pakistan for Arab interests. This is just a rational expectation.

 

[YeBeWarned]

O-riginal
I-mpotent
C-unts

 

[Wood]

A ‘time of need’ would be if the Saudis were actually under threat of military aggression, not when making a conscious decision to enter and exacerbate a civil war in a neighboring country.

Pakistan warned the Saudis against getting into Yemen, having experienced both the fallout of the Afghan civil war, the insurgent war in FATA & the history of external parties entering civil wars has not been positive.

The time of need is for the Saudis to decide. Surely, Pakistan knows more about dealing with insurgency than the Arab states. That can entitle Pakistan to counsel Saudi to reconsider, but does not permit Pakistan to abandon the ‘ally’.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The time of need is for the Saudis to decide. Surely, Pakistan knows more about dealing with insurgency than the Arab states. That can entitle Pakistan to counsel Saudi to reconsider, but does not permit Pakistan to abandon the ‘ally’.

The ‘time of need’ needs to be realistic . We didn’t ask the Saudis to deploy their military assets in support of military operations after it became clear after Balakot that the Indians posed a direct military threat to Pakistan. Nor are the Saudis ever going to agree to deploy their military in support of Pakistani military objectives. So why should Pakistan sacrifice it’s brave soldiers in pursuit of a stupid, foolish & unnecessary Saudi military intervention in Yemen?

 

[W.11]

Israelis do have the best Air defense that's being put to use at least once a week. Courtesy Hamas.

and hamas is a worthy air force opponent

hindutvas should be shown what common israelis think abt india and open their RSS programmed mind.

regards

 

[Wood]

The ‘time of need’ needs to be realistic . We didn’t ask the Saudis to deploy their military assets in support of military operations after it became clear after Balakot that the Indians posed a direct military threat to Pakistan. Nor are the Saudis ever going to agree to deploy their military in support of Pakistani military objectives. So why should Pakistan sacrifice it’s brave soldiers in pursuit of a stupid, foolish & unnecessary Saudi military intervention in Yemen?

If Pakistan is unwilling to bear the sacrifice (in human capital) to what the the Saudi see as their primary interest, then the kingdom is bound to show its disappointment with Pakistan. Let’s see how else Pakistan can turn this relationship in future.

 

[PakFactor]

If they did not put their money up and shore Pakistani forex reserves, then the country would have been subjected to more stringent IMF rules. Who is to say that this would not have affected Pakistan’s ability to pay for its armed forces? One could even reason that the Saudi generosity has kept Pakistan financially intact to deal with its mortal enemy. Partnership works by each side contributing what they are good at in a transactional basis. Arabs have money which they have promptly given to Pakistan for the country’s need. In return, Pakistan can be expected by the Arabs to be available to meet their military manpower needs.

I’m not sure whom you are referring to, but I don’t subscribe to the notion of friendship in international relations. This is just my personal opinion. International relations are often just transactional or strategic alignment of mutual interests. So if Pakistan expects the Arabs to stand with the Pakistani side exclusively, then there should be a proportional support from Pakistan for Arab interests. This is just a rational expectation.

We have always supported them in their Foreign Policy which negatively effected Pakistan long term. Following them we never developed our relations with Israel which allowed it to settle in Indian camp which effects us negatively militarily and politically. Have we gotten any support from Arabs towards India? They could have stopped oil and importing Indian labor to hurt them, but no they looked the other way and rather injecting more money into a failed Indian conglomerates like Reliance Industries who’s Chief the other day said no amount of money will save it.

The money the Arabs gave went into pockets of their hand picked goons operating in Pakistan who chiffon the money out of the country.

We can easily get money from China mostly likely with more control mechanisms in place to make sure money is used what’s its intended for.

We aren’t their rent a damn army, and neither I want to see our precious boys spill blood for a race who allied with the West to bring down a Caliph. Their crooked nose traitors through and through.

 

[RangeMaster]

Sahih Muslim
KITAB AL-FITAN WA ASHRAT AS-SA'AH
Book 41, Number 6883:

Zainab bint Jahsh, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), reported that one day Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came out in a state of excitement with his face quite red. And he was saying: There is no god but Allah; there is a destruction in store for Arabia beciuse of the turmoil which is near at hand as the barrier of Gog and Magog has been opened like it, and he (in order to explain it) made a ring with the help o his thumb and forefinger. I said: Allah's Messenger, would we be destroyed despite the fact that there would be pious people amongst us ? He said: Yes, when the evil would predominate.

 

[PakSword]

This news is probably not correct.

But anyway, OIC is a useless organization and I don't know why we are part of it.

Forget Kashmiris who have gained something in 1948, let alone lost land, because of brave northern Pakistanis. Pakistan and Pakistan army kept the Indian designs in check. Under OIC, Palestinians only lost land and are continuing to lose.

If it was up to only OIC, AJK would have been lost already.

 

[SIPRA]

Pakistan shall keep on maintaining its relations with KSA, on quid pro quo basis, as is happening, for the past some years.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

says a hindutva who's only friend was bangladesh and that too eliminated beause of hindutva policy, according to your own hindutvas, hindus have no country other than india while indian muslims have dozens of muslim countries if they get kicked out of india?

regards

Load of rubbish. No Hindutva or even non-Hindutva Indian claims that Bangladesh was India's only friend. They don't give a rat's tail about Bangladesh.

You're a false flagging parasite, attempting to generate some false narrative and dilute the appropriate reaction to this thread. You do this routinely in fact.

 

[W.11]

Load of rubbish. No Hindutva or even non-Hindutva Indian claims that Bangladesh was India's only friend. They don't give a rat's tail about Bangladesh.

seems like what a hindutva would say.

regards