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The Russians Return

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Russia's back in Afghanistan, this time in cooperation with the West -- but do objectives really align?

At the annual NATO summit in Lisbon later this month, Russia plans to make a surprising announcement: It will assist the Western military alliance's war effort in Afghanistan, the land from which it was forced to make a humiliating withdrawal two decades ago after failing to defeat a U.S.-backed insurgency that dealt a decisive blow to an already crumbling Soviet Union.

NATO is portraying the announced cooperation with its International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) as the fruit of a broader rapprochement between Russia and the West, which both Washington and its European allies are eager to cultivate. "The meeting in Lisbon is a real opportunity to turn a new page, to bury the ghosts of the past," Anders Fogh Rasmussen, NATO's secretary-general, said last week during a pre-summit visit to Moscow. (Rasmussen presented a similar request last year, which the Russians spurned.)

NATO could certainly use more help in Afghanistan (though it would be preferable if its own members, some of which have been hesitant to send more forces and have bound those already in the field under overly stringent rules of engagement, picked up the slack). But it should be clear-eyed about Moscow's motives. The initial appeal of Russia's assistance -- that the country has knowledge of Afghanistan thanks to its own, decade-long engagement -- is belied by its brutal record. Afghans do not have fond memories of their former invaders, and it's not hard to understand why. Possibly 1 million Afghan civilians died in the Soviet war, which was waged with typical Russian carelessness and a complete lack of regard for winning hearts and minds. Russia carpet-bombed huge swaths of territory, laid mines that still maim and kill Afghan civilians, and wiped out entire villages suspected of sheltering mujahideen militants. By contrast, ISAF, though it has been criticized for civilian casualties incurred via drone strikes, is at least cognizant of how such deaths negatively affect its mission and has invested billions of dollars in reconstruction projects. The United Nations estimates that civilian casualties in the latest war, which has lasted nearly as long as the Soviet one, number somewhere between 12,000 and 30,000.

Moreover, the actual Russian commitment is small. Russia will not be contributing troops, the most badly needed resource in a counterinsurgency effort where success depends on dispersing soldiers throughout remote areas. Initial reports peg the promised assistance at a few helicopters and military trainers. The newfound Russian support for the NATO mission in Afghanistan (supposedly predicated on opposition to Islamist militants gaining a foothold in its neighborhood and distress at rising heroin addiction fueled by Afghan opium) does not exactly square with the attempts it has made to undermine the war. When, shortly after 9/11, the United States asked Tajikistan whether it could use the former Soviet republic's territory as a staging ground for the initial attack into Afghanistan (with which Tajikistan shares a 700-mile-long border), the Tajiks resisted due to vigorous Russian arm-twisting. When the United States convinced Kyrgyzstan, another poor, landlocked, former Soviet Central Asian republic, to allow the erection of a transit center that has proved crucial in transporting soldiers and equipment to Afghanistan, Russia immediately complained and began pressuring its government to evict the base. Last year, Russia persuaded Kyrgyzstan's then president, Kurmanbek Bakiyev, to expel the Americans in exchange for a $2 billion loan package. Only when the United States offered to triple the rent it was paying to the Kyrgyz government did Bakiyev back down. This year, Bakiyev was violently ousted in an uprising that Moscow helped instigate, and Russia has been quietly pressuring the new Kyrgyz government to evict the Americans yet again.

The Russians Return - By James Kirchick | Foreign Policy
 
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Wonderful news.. been waiting for the arrival of the Russians for a long time.. news came more sooner than expected.
:cheers::cheers:
 
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Wish they are able to take revenge from Taliban :cheers:
 
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Without pledging troops, its only intelligence that the Russians can share with NATO here.

It will be interesting to see as to how they both cuddle up here.
 
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On one side the Russians are trying to not let the US use the bases from countries neighboring Afghanistan, while on the other hand it is saying it is gonna help it, though the initial help is very small and not gonna have big impact.

Hope, the Russian help doesn't backfires and adds more fuel to the already raging fire.
 
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I was also giving the same thought Taimi what if the Russians are here make it worse just for old time's sake??
 
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I was also giving the same thought Taimi what if the Russians are here make it worse just for old time's sake??

Yups, that is what was and is my concern as Russia involvement can further fuel the fire as Taliban may use this for their propaganda and those who are not even in their ranks may start to join in for the old times sake. And Russians are gonna be or should i say already are more inclined towards the Northern Alliance groups, which may further alleviate the Pushtuns from the political process, even little doubt in their minds brought in by the Taliban can push over the things.

So the US / NATO should be very careful in dealing with the Russians, plus i see limited cooperation as US would not like a Russian influenced Afghanistan, incase the US wishes to depart this region, it may further give rise to a new cold war between them in this country or region.

Delicate situation, i would say.
 
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If Russia wants to show their influence in the region towards the USA why did not they sell the s300 systems to Iran in the first place.I seriously doubt that some thing new is gonna happens.
 
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If Russia wants to show their influence in the region towards the USA why did not they sell the s300 systems to Iran in the first place.I seriously doubt that some thing new is gonna happens.


Too much pressure from Saudis, Israel prevented the sale of the
S-300 the saudis agreed to spend billions of $ on russian weapons if they did not provide this system to Iran.
 
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Too much pressure from Saudis, Israel prevented the sale of the
S-300 the saudis agreed to spend billions of $ on russian weapons if they did not provide this system to Iran.

Then where is the orders? they instead went to US with 60b deal
 
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Then where is the orders? they instead went to US with 60b deal


They already have bought the Russian T-90 tanks as well as BMP-3 armored vehicles and placed order for Mi-24 helicopters, Russia also launches satellites for Saudi arabia.
 
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They are playing a game with America me thinks...

Russians would not want anything better than America to get bogged down into Afghanistan and get its back broken... The Bear has plenty of experience of how Afghanistan acts as an enticing trap for invaders and they only realize their mistake until it is too late...

Generally speaking... The Russians are definitely back in the game and interestingly... it is actually good for the world...
 
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The Russians are back in Afghanistan, yes but this time it is the Americans who are at the target end of the Mujahiddeen. Russia could not have timed it better. The NATO is keen to cut its losses and leave. Anyone who can help is welcome. The Russians have an operational group of troops positioned on the Afghan-Tajik border and they still have a functional intelligence network in Central Asia. So, yes, they can help.
Winning hearts and minds was not really on the agenda the last time they were in Afghanistan, but this time, they are offering to invest in the Afghan reconstruction, energy and mineral sectors. They wish to fight the Afghan drug trade. Of course they do, but the Russia also wish to "reclaim its geopolitical share of Afghanistan". Nothing wrong with that. Russia cannot be kept out of Afghanistan indefinitely. Only this time, the Russians will still be there when the Americans leave. For that matter, when are the Iranians arriving? Officially, that is!
 
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The Russians coming back (having some presence) is inevitable. And this simply because the Russians are working to secure their flanks. Now the main threat to Russia is not USA; but something else. Quite naturally Russia and the US are willing to accommodate each other to some extent. Current moves between them attest to that. Case in point- Iran. Even in India, both of them are investing time, policy thinking and material with the same intention. If Afghanistan deteriorates drastically, even China will consider some adjustments with them.
 
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