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The Reason Why America's F-35 Would Crush China's J-20 Stealth Fighter in Battle

1. The article itself didnt talk about F35 crush J20
2. When they refered to J20, wonder which J20 in their mind.
we noticed that previous J20 prototype without EOTS, but later they add a thing similar to F35 EOTS to J20, same to EODAS, and the engines...
 
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1. The article itself didnt talk about F35 crush J20
2. When they refered to J20, wonder which J20 in their mind.
we noticed that previous J20 prototype without EOTS, but later they add a thing similar to F35 EOTS to J20, same to EODAS, and the engines...

The single engine F35 is in fact inferior to the higher altitude twin engined J20 and its higher weapon payload.

J20 is in a stage of evolution much like early J10.

So in the coming years we will continue to see the J20 being systematically upgraded.

When it reaches a stage where Military observers suddenly discover that in a new J20 there are systems that are not found on a typical F22 or F35 e.g. Quantum Telecommunication, etc the story will be changed.

Chinese Military observers may then accused USA Military of copying China Military Hardwares with the Western counterpart on the defense.

But understand Asian or rather Chinese culture, they will probably never but the stories will be highlighted by Western Military Observers.


so they finally admit j-20 is superior
dafuq

To the Chinese J20 is basically a defensive weapon today until the USAF which based its F22 oversea as a principal offensive weapon. But right now and IMO, the USAF F22 is pretty useless against China as China Military has already deployed anti-stealth radars all over China.
 
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:coffee: Anti-stealth radars like DWL-002 with a range of 500KM and above which was unveiled at a Defense Exhibition a couple of years ago have caught the US by surprise and put USAF on the defense when they grounded practically all its F-22

Yes. The early one like YLC was based on the Tamara and Vera system.

I have not been able to follow on its latest development but I am pretty sure by now China have much more newer and more advanced version today.

Satellites image revealed that China has started installing them on the artificial islands in the South China Sea and that is a source of worrisome for the US Military operating in the area.

China's New Anti-Stealth Radar Material: Technology Could Make Jets, Ships Harder To Detect
http://www.ibtimes.com/chinas-new-a...y-could-make-jets-ships-harder-detect-2181442
 
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The United States Air Force would maintain an “asymmetric” advantage over potential adversaries in the Western Pacific even after the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force inducts the Chengdu J-20 stealth fighter into operational service. That’s the contention of the service’s top uniformed officer—who was asked about the potential geopolitical implications of the introduction of the new Chinese warplane.

“When we apply fifth-generation technology, it’s no longer about a platform, it’s about a family of systems,” Air Force chief of staff Gen. David Goldfein told reporters at the Pentagon on Aug. 10. “It’s about a network and that’s what gives us an asymmetrical advantage, so that why when I hear about an F-35 versus a J-20, it’s almost an irrelevant question.”

Indeed, as Goldfein noted, the Air Force will likely to continue its focus on a family of systems approach where networking and the sharing of data are key instead of fixating on the performance of individual platforms. A direct comparison of the Lockheed Martin F-35 and the J-20—in Goldfein’s view—would harken back to the his days of flying the Lockheed Martin F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighter—which was almost entirely cut off from outside contact when buttoned down to penetrate enemy airspace. “You’ll see us focusing far more on the family of systems and how we connect them together and far less on individual platforms,” Goldfein said.

While Goldfein used the Nighthawk as a comparison—he probably did not intend to suggest that the J-20’s systems are quite as basic as the 1980s-era F-117. While accurate information about the J-20 is scarce, there are indications that the Chinese aircraft is equipped with a phased array radar, a robust electronic warfare systems and an electro-optical/infrared sensor that is similar in concept to the F-35’s systems. However, while it is possible that the Chinese aircraft might have decent sensors—Air Force officials have suggested that the J-20 lacks the “sensor fusion” and networking to be as effective as the F-22 or F-35.

One area that the Chinese are almost certainly lacking is what Air Combat Command commander Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle once described to me as “spike management.” Fifth-generation aircraft such as the F-22 and F-35 have cockpit displays that indicate to the pilot the various angles and ranges from which their aircraft can be detected and tracked by various enemy radars. The pilots use that information to evade the enemy by making sure to avoid zones where they could be detected and engaged. It is a technology that took decades for the United States to master—through a lot of trial and error.

Meanwhile, at the same press conference, Air Force secretary Deborah Lee James decried the possibility of facing another year where the Congress fails to pass a budget. Even if Congress passes a full year continuing resolution (CR)—which maintains the previous year’s spending levels—it would massively disrupt the Air Force’s procurement efforts because the service would not be able to award new start program contracts. “We certainly hope that won’t be the case, we know the Congressional staffs are working very hard even while their members are back home this summer, but we are hearing that either a six-month CR or one-year CR is at least a possibility,” James said.

Indeed, Congressional sources are not optimistic about the prospects for a new budget in the fall. Thus, the Pentagon faces additional budget turbulence even as it grapples with a readiness crisis.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...as-f-35-would-crush-chinas-j-20-stealth-17315
Shouldnt you be comparing the F-35 to the J-31 ?
 
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At the Zhuhai Airshow this was on display.

The road-mobile JY-26 “Skywatch-U” 3-D long-range air surveillance anti-stealth radar.

According to its brochure by the East China Research Institute of Electronic Engineering (ECRIEE), this radar “boasts double stealth target detection virtues thanks to operation in UHF [ultra high frequency] band and owning of large power-aperture product” for both air breathing targets and tactical missiles. The range of the UHF radar is not cited on the brochure, but other details are, including electronic counter-countermeasures and a complex digital active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar capable of tracking 500 targets.
 
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Arrıgance of US generals are becoming a national security threat for US by itself. Actually this is good for China.

Americans should go on thinking that they have the upper hand and overestimate themselves. The reality will bite back pretty soon tough.
 
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To the Chinese J20 is basically a defensive weapon today until the USAF which based its F22 oversea as a principal offensive weapon. But right now and IMO, the USAF F22 is pretty useless against China as China Military has already deployed anti-stealth radars all over China.
:coffee: Anti-stealth radars like DWL-002 with a range of 500KM and above which was unveiled at a Defense Exhibition a couple of years ago have caught the US by surprise and put USAF on the defense when they grounded practically all its F-22
Yes. The early one like YLC was based on the Tamara and Vera system.

There's no evidence that any radar/sensor could detect F-22 in stealth mode at medium to long distance.

indigenous ?
last i heard VERA can also detect stealth but thats a passive sensor Right?
i mean ..... what is their mode of operation ?
i m new to this topic
 
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There's no evidence that any radar/sensor could detect F-22 in stealth mode at medium to long distance
well i read about Passive sensors a bit
surely F-22 is not able to hide its heat signature specially from afterburners that can be detected right?
and passive sensors do detect this Right?
 
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well i read about Passive sensors a bit
surely F-22 is not able to hide its heat signature specially from afterburners that can be detected right?
and passive sensors do detect this Right?

F-22 heat signature quite nice, especially frontal semi-sphere
Do you mean VERA-like sensors track infrared images ?

No stealth aircraft would use afterburner in stealth mode.
 
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There's no evidence that any radar/sensor could detect F-22 in stealth mode at medium to long distance.

:coffee: That is because you come here day and night to troll about things you understand so little about.

I bet you don't even know how an anti-stealth radar works. Am I right?

So until you managed to update yourself with some knowledgeable folks about these passive coherent radars, let not waste each other and everybody time on this subject.

There is another guy here who speak about "assymetrical advantage" which is in effect is telling us that all "China eyes in the sky, quantum communication satellite, AWACS, etc" are all mere dummies.

No wonder US generals cannot even win a war against the Towel-headed Taliban riding their camels in Afghanistan, Syria, etc and the threat of the ISIL is forever increasing. Unlike the Putin or the Russian who understands what war is all about.
 
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