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The Reason we want to release the indian Pilot

IK is under no illusion that India wants peace. Releasing him is only good for the short term and to allow Pak's leadership to keep the focus on its own issues; not on India's domestic politics or electioneering. Only way to have long term peace is to have many Indias which has to be done step by step unless you are the USA.

Here is one rendering. I would change the boundaries to include a state of Osmania for the 200 Millions repressed Muslims.

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Absolutely agree with the title. Our policy makers and politicians specially Imran niazi is the worst traitors in the history of our country.

Next election he needs to be thrown out

And replaced by which corrupt coward?

This might yet work in your favor. Imran is the best thing that has happened to Pakistan since Ayub.
 
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That is the whole point. If Modi re-escalates the situation day after tomorrow the world will be witness that Pakistan did everything to advance peace. We will retaliate, but our narrative will remain strong.



Agreed. Like I said, Modi terrorizes them too. You know what these Modi terrorists call an Indian state of Kerala? Mini-Pakistan. Because they don't agree with Modi politics.

Well, it is a gesture of peace. We know that Modi won't accept, but we are not doing it for Modi.

Will they give you the time if they come back with a massive, overwhelming first strike?
 
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Will they give you the time if they come back with a massive, overwhelming first strike?

Just because we are handing over the pilot doesn't mean we are not prepared. We know how deceitful Modi is. We are fully prepared against any transgression.

Like I said, the pilot is being handed over to ridicule Modi. Modi wants war we want peace. The world is a witness to our goodwill gesture.
 
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Do you actually understand what the world sees? The world sees you as the hotbed of terrorism. Except China and Turkey, and maybe Saudi and UAE. The Islamic block would remain silent and the West will call you terrorist. They see his release as your duty under world law, not your high moral ground. Wake up and see the reality.
It's not that case. Only Indians portray freedom movement against illegal Indian occupation of J&K as terrorism and no other nation takes that position. The problem with our leaders is that these idiots get shy of exposing Indian propaganda by taking a clear stand in front of world. They somehow get mute, a handicap, rather than being a vocal leader of their nation. We have spanked Indian *** at military front. This is the time of cashing on it rather than unilaterally giving up our hard earned advantages.
 
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Just because we are handing over the pilot doesn't mean we are not prepared. We know how deceitful Modi is. We are fully prepared against any transgression.

There you go. You are sure about Modi's deceit. So what steps are you taking so that this capture of Abhinandan is used to maximum effect for countering this deceit?

It's not that case. Only Indians portray freedom movement against illegal Indian occupation of J&K as terrorism and no other nation takes that position. The problem with our leaders is that these idiots get shy of exposing Indian propaganda by taking a clear stand in front of world. They somehow get mute, a handicap, rather than being a vocal leader of their nation. We have spanked Indian *** at military front. This is the time of cashing on it rather than unilaterally giving up our hard earned advantages.

FACT: America, Britain, and France don't really care.
 
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There you go. You are sure about Modi's deceit. So what steps are you taking so that this capture of Abhinandan is used to maximum effect for countering this deceit?

The armed forces of Pakistan have taken the necessary steps.

Like I said, the world is witness to Pakistan's goodwill gesture.

France, Britain and the US are not the entire world. We don't care what their opinion is. We will act as our interests dictate.

Freeing the pilot is another Kartarpur for Modi.
 
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While IM was Get Wet payjama after possible IN missile strikes in karachi :disagree::disagree::rofl::rofl:

He is saving your *** too where as your leader is selling yours for 22 seats.
At the end of the Joint Parliamentary Session today, Mr. Imran Khan announced the release of Indian pilot as a peace overture. Here we analyze this move.

Whenever a military operation is conducted, there should be well defined aims and objectives behind it. For India, there is a clear, and internationally recognized narrative which uses a background of terrorism as the license for military action.

On the flip side of this coin, Pakistan is a victim of an systematic, insidious, and poisonous Indian campaign to malign its good name and portray it as a source of terror and extremism at the international level. Internally, the Indian government has sought to whip up a war hysteria, inflame passions, and degrade Pakistan's image amongst the Indian public.

From both sides of the coin, the Indian military actions can be called a resounding success. Yes, this success would have been sweetened if India obtained a decisive military victory, but instead it got a military humiliation. But the key question for Pakistan to ask is this: has the military humiliation translated into a defeat of Indian poisonous designs against Pakistan? Let us look at some evidences.

During the conferences of the three forces chiefs, the A.V.M of IAF when asked explicitly "Do you see the release of Abhinandan by Imran Khan as a good will gesture?", his response was "We only see it as a gesture in consonance with all the Geneva Conventions". The Indian military does not see, does not accept any goodwill on the part of Pakistan.

Second, in a unilateral proclamation of releasing Indian prisoner, has Imran Khan assured an incontrovertible diplomatic success for Pakistan's vested interests, which is the comprehensive denouncement of the Indian narrative? This is extremely far removed from reality. On Indian television, their ex Minister of External Affairs is on record saying that India has established a new norm of unilateral strikes against terror targets from which it is not backing down.

Without any guarantee of safeguarding Pakistani interests, why would Imran Khan agree to such a move? The only logical explanation is that he is far removed from the reality of the world. In the supposedly high profile world of telephonic conversations with world leaders, Mr. Khan's mind seems to have left the reality on earth, and sees himself as a world leader of much gravitas and stature. His mind shows himself as a bold leader of principles and values. This dissociation from reality due to a sens of self-grandiosity is the signature hallmark of ineffective Pakistani leaders.

Since Imran Khan gave an example of Bahadur Shah Zafar and Tipu Sultan, let us also consider the examples of other Muslim elites. They pawned away huge pieces of land in games of chess under the influence of women and alcohol. Now Imran Khan cannot be blamed with indulgence in these exact sins, but the kind of grandiose euphoria that leads him to perceive himself as a world leader of class and caliber, is concomitant with dopamine release from alcohol consumption.

Having looked at the facts, let us try to postulate what can go horribly wrong as a result of this move. First of all, Imran Khan needs to answer to the nation, has he factored in the Indian narrative post-release of Mr. Abhinandan? What if IAF claims that Abhinandan downed the Pakistani F-16 using his Mig-21 and was subsequently shot down as well? Is Imran Khan willing to provide a guarantee to the nation that this will not happen?

But more importantly, what guarantee can Imran Khan provide that this is not simply a tactical retreat by the Modi government to secure release of a prisoner that is causing them loss of face throughout India? How can he assure the nation that India will not escalate again, this time using purely stand off weapons, missiles, and troop movements instead of risking the capture of high value targets?

It is unfortunately that instead of charting a course that serves the vested interests of Pakistan, Imran Khan has once again set us on a course of subservience, and valid ridicule amongst nations. Whereas his own stature may increase superficially vis a vis the treatment he receives from world leaders, the stature of Pakistani nation will only decrease. I will stop just short of labeling this treason against this nation. Unfortunately, in the divided Pakistani nation, treason is called leadership even as our neighbor is united in labeling war mongering as peace. Shame on us, indeed.
I did not expect this from you sir
 
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France, Britain and the US are not the entire world. We don't care what their opinion is.

Oh yes you do. Your PM is ever ready to stand up and salute if Trump looks at him favorably. His words 'Why wouldn't we want to be friends with a world power?'. With aims such as these, we will always be petty beggars of the world seen as trying to suck up with whomever will tolerate us.
 
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Oh yes you do. Your PM is ever ready to stand up and salute if Trump looks at him favorably. His words 'Why wouldn't we want to be friends with a world power?'. With aims such as these, we will always be petty beggars of the world seen as trying to suck up with whomever will tolerate us.

No we don't. Our PM is not Nawaz Sharif or Zardari. This is Imran Khan. He is not an angel. Nor is he perfect, but we can be rest assured that whatever he does is in the greater interest of Pakistan. Imran Khan won't sell Pakistan to anyone because he is not greedy for power. When Imran Khan talks about seeking better relations he means relations based on mutual respect. We won't be a hire for gun. You know these words.

In this world it is all about give and take. When Imran Khan says that he wants better relations with the US or India for that matter you know exactly what he means. In an ideal world we don't seek hostile relations with any nation. That includes India and the USA. Yes, we have a lot of grievances and I am sure they have them too, but someone has to extend an olive branch. I am not ashamed if our leader stands up to extend an olive branch.

What standing does Modi and his warmongering RSS goons have when we return their pilot? Mind you, a pilot who entered Pak airspace with hostile intent. It is a huge slap on their faces. I fully understand the anger and frustration among our people, but this gesture will destroy Modi's standing. Mark my words. Time will tell.
 
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May be we should now replace him with the religious parties. Because of this Niazi our heads are bowed in shame.

Your religious parties have an IQ of a donkey which they all share. They can't even read and write never mind deal with geo politics and strategy. Khan is a student of Sun Tzu. Keep faith.
 
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Imran khan should resign and leave this thankless nation in the hands of nawaz shareef and zardari most of harm khoors will be happy.
 
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