The problem of India is international, not national - Allama Mohammad Iqbal

[jamahir]

Expelled to where they came from - West of India. None asked the Muslims to stay in India after partition. So, any muslim born in India after partition is his fault. Ideally, all Muslims must have left India. So, anyone who didn't will be treated as illegal.

Why would illegal people be given even an inch of land?

So any Indian Muslim in 1947 who was patriotic to India by choosing India over Pakistan is now an illegal ?? Strange logic.

 

[graphican]

Expelled to where they came from - West of India. None asked the Muslims to stay in India after partition. So, any muslim born in India after partition is his fault. Ideally, all Muslims must have left India. So, anyone who didn't will be treated as illegal.

Why would illegal people be given even an inch of land?

If in 2020 you claim that people in 1947 should have left then you are too late to make a point. 4rd and 5th generation of Muslims is born in India. Why would Paksitan (or any other country) take those citizens who under all international norms are Indians by Nationality? --- and if India wouldn't take them, the new country would. Do you get my point?

And why do you think all 200 million Muslims in India will "leave" because someone said so? They have right on that land as many other people of the territory do. No?

The ideology that you are expressing is what Indian Muslims need to create a new homeland out of India.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Feel free to throw in names and possible geography of these new balkan states of hindustan.

Owaispur, Kalamdesh, Psycho Republic of Pradesh, State of Kerala, State of Golkunda.

Etc etc etc

Balkantastic idea.

Expelled to where they came from - West of India. None asked the Muslims to stay in India after partition. So, any muslim born in India after partition is his fault. Ideally, all Muslims must have left India. So, anyone who didn't will be treated as illegal.

Why would illegal people be given even an inch of land?

Why shouldn't all Hindus have been expelled to Kerala and Assam by this logic? Apart from the descendants of Aryans who can return to the central Asiatic steppe of course.

India, the nation state, is as much Muslim as it is Hindu. You can abrogate whatever articles you want but you can't erase historic realities. The Indian Muslims have every right to reclaim it. Pakistan will stay out of it.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Muslims who were patriotic would give up islam.

Hilarious. Should the English return to druidism, since Christianity was brought here by invaders?

Muslims who were patriotic would give up islam. You can't be patriotic if you don't give up islam as patriotism is linked to civilization. So, those patriotic Muslims are not even considered as Muslims.



Pakistan need not accept. But India can't allow them either. When India expels them by force, Pakistan is free to shoot down any muslim refugee who is crossing into Pakistan. I won't object to that. But staying in India is not acceptable and no land or resources can be given to Muslims from India. May be Pakistan can give some land if it feels like

Pakistan will tell them to fight for their land and expel the hindutva invaders.

 

[El Sidd]

Balkantastic idea.

Human development is imperative

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Why would Hindus be expelled to Kerala or Assam? Who told you ridiculous things of Aryan migration? There is 0 evidence to say that Aryans invaded India.

India was historically dharmic land with 0 muslim. In fact, the history of world is that there were 0 muslim in 600AD. This is the historical reality. This means dharmics have every right to demand a world free from Muslims


English were pagans and should return to Paganism.

Pakistan is always telling the same thing. At the end of the day, war is the only option. That is what I have been saying - by force. Muslims can either die like insects or flee to Pakistan to survive. This will not come as a request

I'm no geneticist but even I can tell you you're chatting garbage.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com...na-to-explain-origins-of-ancient-indians/amp/

Unless you wish to return to the Andaman Islands, you may as well be at peace with the reality that your ancestors got subjugated by "foreigners" from numerous points of origin.

Some of you were improved by these adjustments....some clearly not.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

I'm no geneticist but even I can tell you you're chatting garbage.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com...na-to-explain-origins-of-ancient-indians/amp/

Unless you wish to return to the Andaman Islands, you may as well be at peace with the reality that your ancestors got subjugated by "foreigners" from numerous points of origin.

Some of you were improved by these adjustments....some clearly not.

Absurd. From where did people come in the first place? How can Indians come from Indian Ocean into India? So, where is the question of Aryan invasion. There is only one route into India from west and one route from east. Anyone who came to India came from these 2 paths. So, what is your meaning of Aryan invasion?

 

[khansaheeb]

After Muslims are expelled from India and India regains all its land, then protecting minorities will be an issue. Chronology is important. Until the first step is completed, second step can't be taken

Seems like you should be in Delhi looting, burning and plundering or are you taking a break from it?

 

[KhanBaba2]

Muslims who were patriotic would give up islam. You can't be patriotic if you don't give up islam as patriotism is linked to civilization. So, those patriotic Muslims are not even considered as Muslims.

India was created as a secular nation. It was not created as a dharmic country. Anyone who wants to change that is the non patriotic one.

 

[HRK]

So, any muslim born in India after partition is his fault.

 

[jamahir]

English were pagans and should return to Paganism.

I gather you will be against Christianity too, but not against Jewry. The last only because you see Israel as a bulwark against Muslims.

Muslims who were patriotic would give up islam. You can't be patriotic if you don't give up islam as patriotism is linked to civilization.

Islam is an older Socialist movement.

But tell me this. Hypothetically, if Muslims give up formal Islam will you give up Hinduism ??

And think forward about culture, society, politics and economics on near-future Mars colonies.

 

[graphican]

Pakistan need not accept. But India can't allow them either.When India expels them by force, Pakistan is free to shoot down any Muslim refugee who is crossing into Pakistan. I won't object to that. But staying in India is not acceptable and no land or resources can be given to Muslims from India. May be Pakistan can give some land if it feels like.

If you were living in a law-abiding country, you would've been jailed for proposing genocide. And you are able to utter such hatred because you were encouraged to do that and look at what this encouragement has lead India into.

 

[Itachi]

Keep that one unbanned cuz he's funny.

So, any muslim born in India after partition is his fault

His?? What about her?? It??

Do you only see 1 gender?

English were pagans and should return to Paganism.

Tell that to any English and they'll let you know what their opinion is.

By your logic, if pagans were monotheistic before worshipping more than 1 God....should they also return to monotheism??

For obviously....you don't have 10 gods before you have 1 God.

 

[graphican]

Maybe that is the first step; Pakistan can ask Muslims in India to decide name of their future home.

Remember Paksitan was not made in one day. Someone had started it with a dream. A new country for 200 million Muslims in India won't be made in one day - but it must start somewhere. Paksitan can help them combine their powers and think about a prosperous, terrorism free future and peaceful existence in the world.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

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@WebMaster @Arsalan @Dubious @Zaki

very inflammatory thread, replying to this wont take time. upto you guys to keep it alive or let me reply and you dont delete it.

You can always leave PDF and never come back. This is after all a Pakistani forum not an indian one. I would NEVER EVER go to an indian forum as the thought of it makes me physically sick. Why do want to come to your eternal enemy's forum? There is NO need for you to be here.