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With a genuine peace process, India will bring its relationship with Israel out of the closet.

A calamity in New Delhi and Jerusalem: An Israeli actress claims in a new book that the heads of the Indian film industry requested sexual favors from her in return for a role in their films. Based on the scope of the revelation of the story here last week, one could have thought that something major had happened in Bollywood, that Indian-Israeli relations had turned upside down, and that nothing can save them from the serious crisis they are experiencing.

In January, the two countries will mark 20 years since they established relations. Truth be told, what do we even know about the status of these relations?


It was reported last week that Israel spread a red carpet for the foreign minister of San Marino. She deserves it. She represents a country of 32,000 inhabitants; Micronesia, the Marshall Islands and Palau also deserve it. All of them together populate no more than an average neighborhood in New Delhi or Mumbai, but they are well-known lovers of Zion, and during hard times, in light of the battle with the Palestinian at the United Nations, their support requires constant nurturing.

And India? It's a lost cause, say political sources. It's in the Palestinians' pocket, and will remain there even if we stand on our heads.
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When Ariel Sharon became the first Israeli prime minister to visit India in 2003, his visit assumed a historical halo. Everyone spoke at the time about the identical values and challenges of "the only two democracies between the Mediterranean Sea and the Sea of China that are dealing with dictatorships that sponsor terror." There was also talk about forming a strategic Indian-American-Israeli troika. "The axis of virtue," they called it.

The Arab countries reacted with annoyance. There was a feeling that there had been a revolution in Indian foreign policy. "The visit will lead to an entirely new level of cooperation," predicted then Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee at the time in an interview with Haaretz.

A lot of water has flowed in the Ganges since then. The Congress Party of the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty ousted the Hindu nationalists (BJP ) from government in 2004. Sharon was the last Israeli prime minister to visit Delhi. India, for its part, has never sent its heads of state or government here. The strategic troika was tossed into the trash can. At every critical diplomatic moment, India began once again to oppose Israel. Last month, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh announced that "India is steadfast in its support for the Palestinian people's struggle for a sovereign, independent, viable and united state of Palestine with East Jerusalem as its capital."

Israel didn't bat an eyelash. It transferred its lobbying to more important realms - Gabon, for example, or Bosnia. After all, the Congress Party cannot overcome its old socialist instinct from the period of the bloc of non-aligned nations; it must support the downtrodden Palestinians. It owes it to its electorate, and to the 200 million Muslims who are part of it. It needs the energy sources of Iran and Arab countries. It also needs them in light of its ongoing battle with Pakistan in Kashmir.

But having said all that, this presentation distorts a fascinating anomalous reality. Behind the diplomatic abyss lie an extremely warm and close bilateral relations. Mutual trade, which totaled less than $200 million in 1992, reached $5 billion (! ) this year. Every year, some 40,000 Israelis travel in India or do business there. Cooperation in the fields of agriculture, science, culture, pharmaceuticals and high-tech is constantly increasing, as are security and intelligence relations: Israel is currently the second-largest supplier, after Russia, of sophisticated weapons systems to India.

Indian commentators speak of an unusual relationship, which doesn't exist with any other country in the world. But everything is done behind the scenes. The Indians are drying up their diplomatic relations and hiding the strategic ones, which are steadily becoming closer. They don't want visibility - not now. Bring us a genuine peace process, they say, and see how quickly we take the relationship out of the closet.


Israel is probably in no hurry; that's a mistake - and not only because of the tremendous potential of the Indian giant that is becoming more powerful economically and politically: "Having a mistress" can be pleasant and useful, but history proves that when it comes to countries, too, it's much easier to brush aside such a relationship as opposed to a formal, open and boring one.

The potential of Israel's relationship with India - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

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Brilliant article! Con-gress government :angry:
 
So far India seems to be playing her cards well. We are trying to please everyone....some openly & some through the backdoor.
 
There is a very powerful lobby in Congress that supports closer relations with Russia, Iran over relations with US, Saudi Arabia and Israel. MMS has made the Indo-US relations a personal objective and that is the only reason we are still doing fine with US.

We should de-hyphenate our relations with Israel to that of our support for the Palestinian cause.
 
The congress are politicians to the core (as heartless as they come), they do a lot of lip service, which may not mean much & when it comes to action it is usually the opposite. This is probably another reason for some of our neighbors' distrust of India.
 
Indo-Israeli relations only have an upward trajectory, shared beliefs and common enemies will make sure of this.
 
Bl[i]tZ;2321859 said:
There is a very powerful lobby in Congress that supports closer relations with Russia, Iran over relations with US, Saudi Arabia and Israel. MMS has made the Indo-US relations a personal objective and that is the only reason we are still doing fine with US.

We should de-hyphenate our relations with Israel to that of our support for the Palestinian cause.

India will always maintain a close relationship with Russia, no matter what. Not for the obvious reasons, but when Russia helped develop India, it established its corruption roots. For that very reason congress will maintain closer relations with Russia before any country, because Russia's seeds of corruption are planted in pockets of governing bodies in India. Completely my opinion to be honest, but there's been a lot of factual evidence behind it too of course. Not completely a bad thing though, i mean come on, look what India has gained out of its relationship with Russia.
 
Bringing BJP to power will automatically result in better relations. Congress needs to re-invent itself...
 
India needs the BJP back in power and along with that banning the socialist CON-gress party license raj and non alignment brought poverty and non importance to India and of course Nehru her daughter and grandson expanded the former whereas Vajpayee within 5 years brought more than 50 million people out of poverty and into the middle class
 
India will always maintain a close relationship with Russia, no matter what. Not for the obvious reasons, but when Russia helped develop India, it established its corruption roots. For that very reason congress will maintain closer relations with Russia before any country, because Russia's seeds of corruption are planted in pockets of governing bodies in India. Completely my opinion to be honest, but there's been a lot of factual evidence behind it too of course. Not completely a bad thing though, i mean come on, look what India has gained out of its relationship with Russia.
well said brother
 
India is a puppet of Israel, she is being used and will eventually be abused. You Indians on here think that India is some super power in line with the US, Israel, Britain and France. It's actually being used by these countries, I have said this on here numerous times before and will say it again. The West are using India to benefit they needs, which are to contain the economic threat of China and the military threat of Pakistan. Israel cannot itself manage to contain Pakistan, why does it need to risk loosing it's own people when they can use the Indian people instead. You guys need to wake up to these facts. It's happened before when Israel came to attack Pakistan's nuclear weapons from India and cancelled at the last moment.

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Indo-Israeli relations only have an upward trajectory, shared beliefs and common enemies will make sure of this.

Yeah they want you to have the same enemies, Israel wants control of the middle east and the US wants what Israel wants. What are India's reasons for having these common enemies??
 
India is a puppet of Israel, she is being used and will eventually be abused. You Indians on here think that India is some super power in line with the US, Israel, Britain and France. It's actually being used by these countries, I have said this on here numerous times before and will say it again. The West are using India to benefit they needs, which are to contain the economic threat of China and the military threat of Pakistan. Israel cannot itself manage to contain Pakistan, why does it need to risk loosing it's own people when they can use the Indian people instead. You guys need to wake up to these facts. It's happened before when Israel came to attack Pakistan's nuclear weapons from India and cancelled at the last moment.
look who's talking of puppet?........................india supports palestinian cause so is it israels puppet?..........................we opposed us towards its policy on iran and flushed out its fighter jet in competition ...is india us puppet?.....................and france and britain dont have capability of making india there puppet.......plz do some research before posting anything.
 
look who's talking of puppet?........................india supports palestinian cause so is it israels puppet?..........................we opposed us towards its policy on iran and flushed out its fighter jet in competition ...is india us puppet?.....................and france and britain dont have capability of making india there puppet.......plz do some research before posting anything.

Where's the money coming from in India? Where was India 15 years ago? The West have pumped this money into the Indian banks for a reason... think about it!
 
India is a puppet of Israel, she is being used and will eventually be abused. You Indians on here think that India is some super power in line with the US, Israel, Britain and France. It's actually being used by these countries, I have said this on here numerous times before and will say it again. The West are using India to benefit they needs, which are to contain the economic threat of China and the military threat of Pakistan. Israel cannot itself manage to contain Pakistan, why does it need to risk loosing it's own people when they can use the Indian people instead. You guys need to wake up to these facts. It's happened before when Israel came to attack Pakistan's nuclear weapons from India and cancelled at the last moment.

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Yeah they want you to have the same enemies, Israel wants control of the middle east and the US wants what Israel wants. What are India's reasons for having these common enemies??
my answer would be four wars and proxy war....u know it right?

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Where's the money coming from in India? Where was India 15 years ago? The West have pumped this money into the Indian banks for a reason... think about it!
if you read indias loan pattern maximum is from domestic public and we have capability of paying back. us is not our master we have opposed them in many matters in un like libya............................ further india didnt sign npt under us pressure. we have cordial relationship wiht many us enemies..........we recently supported for lifting ban on cuba.
 
Why do Pakistanis have to be so stupid? :(

Yes guys, if that's what makes you feel better, India is a puppet of France, Germany, UK, US, Japan, Australia, Israel, Brazil etc etc (add more to the list for EXTRA enjoyment)
 

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