The only way to tackle terrorism in Pakistan is to reform or close down Madrasas

[Psychic]

People who create threads like these, they are just kids trying to play decision makers.

M.SAAD is a 19 year old burger kid from Islamabad, who does not know much about problems faced by poor people in Pakistan and any positive aspect of madrassahs.
People do not even know that some staunch opponents of TTP also run madrassahs for example the Jamia Naeemia of Lahore.

Yes, even look at all of ISIS' members from Europe, none of them are from Madrassahs but many had enjoyed Western lifestyles before joining ISIS.

Many even have their bodies tattooed.

Just like some time back, Indians on pdf were saying that our text books are a cause of terrorism, I wonder which Pakistani textbook was read by Zawahiri and which one was read by Baghdadi.

People like you just wana do the bashing. Can i ask how many madrsaes have you visited or studied in ? or Even did you have any personal relation with some mulana regarding Islamic study etc or is just the uncle aunty telling you that this bad and that is too bad and that is worst. Get the f uck off your a ss and visit some of them. Understand what they are and what is REALLY happening there but lets be realist you will never gona do that lazy as hell and just living on media.

Agreed, but calm down with the language

 

[pakdefender]

Also we should take the fight into neighboring countries who support them , if we bleed they should bleed

 

[Styx]

We have deobandis who follow Dar ul Alum Deoband involved in terrorism, not Wahhabis.

Have you closed down Dar ul Alum Deoband in India? They are very loyal to India I guess.

deobandis are dangerous in their thought too but we don't have as big a terrorism problem here.. at least till now.

deobandi/wahhabi.. whatever you call this supremacist "pure" and nazi version of Islam is what breeds terrorists, too much focus on the promise of paradise, and that is sweetened further with added goodies if they die fighting the kuffar, and that kind of nonsense has no place in the modern world.

Pakistanis take their religion so seriously, if only your government can regulate and institute changes in the madrassa 'course material' from violence to peace, religiously motivated terrorism die off.

 

[faisal6309]

Caesaropapism should be implemented. One head molvi of state should control all its molvis of all provinces who will control all molvis of that province. Also head molvi will be directly under president who can remove him and appoint new head molvi anytime he want. This will make sure all molvis are under some power and even head molvi can be kicked anytime if his superior want.

 

[Salik]

Immediately close Deobandi madrasas in Pakistan and be prepared for reaction. They will take it as attack on religion, there'll be open war but once for all. If govt remains determined and dont let them capitalize she will win.

Another method is keep going slow movement, pick them one by one as they are picking us one by one. Who wins time will tell.

 

[Shoonya]

The only way to tackle terrorism in Pakistan is :
1. to reform or close down Madrasas
2. to sincerely believe and teach that Justifying Any Terrorism ( or any armed militancy) in the name of Jihad is UnIslamic.

 

[Psychic]

deobandi/wahhabi.. whatever you call this supremacist "pure" and nazi version of Islam is what breeds terrorists, too much focus on the promise of paradise, and that is sweetened further with added goodies if they die fighting the kuffar, and that kind of nonsense has no place in the modern world.

Every "version" of Islam says that. Plus many deobandi Ulemas have been assassinated by TTP and Al-Qaeda in Pakistan because of their fatwas against the terrorists.
Maulana Hassan Jan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pakistanis take their religion so seriously, if only your government can regulate and institute changes in the madrassa 'course material' from violence to peace, religiously motivated terrorism die off.

Agreed.
It is valid for some madrassahs, not all as we have a large number of Barelvi madrassahs in Pakistan, which have always remained non violent and are not involved in terrorism. In fact they call for Jihad against the terrorists.

deobandis are dangerous in their thought too but we don't have as big a terrorism problem here.. at least till now.

Banning madrassahs is not the solution.

Immediately close Deobandi madrasas in Pakistan

Are you ready to provide an alternative? Are you ready for reaction?

What about these terrorists?
www.dawn.com/news/1183215
You will ban technical education as well?

If govt remains determined and dont let them capitalize she will win.

Among hundreds of thousands, how many really "produce" terrorists?
Some terrorist belonging to a madrassah does not mean that madrassah is involved. Madrassah is only involved if it preaches violence and brain washes it's students like madrassahs of Mullah Abdul Aziz.

 

[Salik]

Every "version" of Islam says that. Plus many deobandi Ulemas have been assassinated by TTP and Al-Qaeda in Pakistan because of their fatwas against the terrorists.
Maulana Hassan Jan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ok govt take oath from head of the madrasa if your madrasa is involved in terrorist activity the head of that madrasa will be hanged.

 

[Psychic]

Ok govt take oath from head of the madrasa if your madrasa is involved in terrorist activity the head of that madrasa will be hanged.

Is it that easy? Tomorrow if some IBA graduate is involved in terrorism, then madrassah leaders will demand "govt take oath from heads of educational institutes if your educational institute is involved in terrorist activity then head of that institute will be hanged"
Who will be ready for such demands?

 

[xyxmt]

there no madrassas in UK, EU, and US then how come people are being redicalized there

 

[paki_rambo]

the best way to tackle terrorism is to improve judicial systems.how many terrorists have been set free even while having strong charges against them due to feeble judicial system and then they indulge into same activities of terrorism

 

[Salik]

Is it that easy? Tomorrow if some IBA graduate is involved in terrorism, then madrassah leaders will demand "govt take oath from heads of educational institutes if your educational institute is involved in terrorist activity then head of that institute will be hanged"
Who will be ready for such demands?

Who is giving promises of paradise and virgin hoors IBA or madrasa? Accidents dont happen in one day until an IBA graduate makes a short cut to a madrasa. According to mullahs only they know the path to paradise.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

The only realistic way to tackle terrorism in Pakistan is to cut off their root/supply chain which are the Madrasas. These places are a breathing ground for extremist ideology and unless we tackle this problem first and foremost the situation in country will only get worse.

These Madaris were in Pakistan since the begining and no terrorism? I have a friend who studied at Aitchison College, Lahore and they were told, ''there is no point in praying? There is no one there!'' And this is PAKISTAN'S ''best'' College. Most of the people in power are from there. We need to close it down or change the syllabus. The good news is, my friend has become a very strong Muslim and his Mum started to wear a hijab and his father started praying. They are a very ''connected'' family in the PAF.

Lets not beat around the bush, the governement policies are leading to extremism. People feel humiliated as Pakistanis and blame the government for it. War on Terror, allowing another country to bomb us, dictate terms, enslaved to Arabs, corruption, and they see no light at the end of the tunnel.

We are Muslim a country and, if anyone has a problem with that, please leave and drop your passports on the way!

 

[Psychic]

Who is giving promises of paradise and virgin hoors IBA or madrasa? Accidents dont happen in one day until an IBA graduate makes a short cut to a madrasa. According to mullahs only they know the path to paradise.

I have seen many university kids who have never been to any madrassa and who do not even pray five times a day call shias kaffir and admire Maulana Abdul Aziz. The judges who set terrorists free aren't from any madrassa either and many of your fancy secular universities and colleges support the Balouch seperatists. Banning madrassahs does not mean that streams of honey and milk will start flowing in Pakistan.

 

[Neutron]

DEFEAT AN IDEA WITH BETTER IDEA

Instead of wasting your efforts and yelling against religious schools think something POSITIVE. There can be more practical solutions to handle extreme ideas of our religious schools. Convince authorities of religious schools to organize seminars and interfaith / inter sect DIALOGUE and debates on quarterly basis. Increase the interaction of Universities and religious schools. Show them your perspective and counter them with LOGIC. You cant defeat any IDEA with bullets and state punishments. YOU CAN DEFEAT AN IDEA WITH BETTER IDEA. I agree that our religious schools are developing NARRATIVE closer to the TERRORIST organizations but do we have any forum to debate publicly? OR can my state convince them with better ideas?