The only way out of this political blunder.

[V. Makarov]

In the ongoing situation, these are the ground realities:

1) Mr. Bajwa has compromised on the national security of Pakistan to ensure that the Military-Feudal Nexus can keep ruling the submissive people of Pakistan.
2) Mr. Bajwa is confused, and taking knee-jerk reactions, which include the medieval tactics of harassing political workers and social media activists.
3) He has acknowledged the pressure from the people of Pakistan by not attending the Beggar's oath taking ceremony. This also has given the PTI narrative more momentum.
4) Other state institutions have openly declared war on PTI which include the FIA, Judiciary, Police Service, and 80% of the media.
5) The process of converting PTI into Mukti Bahini is underway by the same Military establishment, through their same medieval tactics.


The solution: Elections, but how?

It has become a matter of national security to conduct a national election. The military may have realized the mistake it has made. As Shahbaz Gill puts it:

"Buzurgo, maan lo blunder ho gya hai."
​

But the path to elections is not clear. Is it possible that Shahbaz Sharif just announces election tomorrow out of nowhere? The PDM won't be able to do that. However, I think there is a way:

1) Now that the military may have realized their blunder, they should again start political engineering in Punjab all over again.
2) The establishment should now make sure that Pervaiz Elahi becomes the next Chief Minister of Punjab AT ALL COSTS.
3) Pervaiz Elahi will make the decision to dissolve the Punjab Assembly within a few days after he comes to power.
4) Soon after, KPK assembly will be shattered.
5) The path to the elections will become smoother.


Tomorrow, Imran Khan is all set to hold a jalsa in Peshawar. That jalsa will shake the foundations on which the military establishment and the feudal lords stand on, Inshallah. I won't be surprised if Bajwa himself starts calling PTI dissidents in Punjab assembly after tomorrows Jalsa.

The dissolution of Punjab assembly has become a matter of internal and national security of Pakistan. Furthermore, it is LITERALLY the only way out I can think of. If Punjab assembly goes down, everyone in Pakistan will have some face-saving. The pressure on the establishment will be reduced, PMLN and PPP can continue with their "Imran is corrupt" rhetoric, while IK himself can lead Pakistanis into a new Pakistan that is completely autonomous and "khud-mukhtaar".


@Enigma SIG @Norwegian @Bleek @Pindi Boy @JX-1 @IceCold @nangyale @Ghazwa-e-Hind @Pakistansdefender @Sugarcane @mourning sage @Asimzranger @Path-Finder @Menace2Society @akramishaqkhan

 

[V. Makarov]

good suggestion but i doubt our haram khor general will do the needful to save Pakistan from choas! unfortunately what happened today at marriot and if loota gangster are protected awaam will take matter into their hands and bring down the whole system and possibly Pakistan will go down! and i am sure everyone will blame IK people and not haram khors wardi mafia or these thugs!

There can be a point where the establishment cannot deny ground realities. With the current backlash against the army, there can be a mutiny within. Bajwa will have to consider this reality.

 

[12thPlayer]

Seems like PTI made up everything. Why are they not going to court and filing a case?

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

5) The process of converting PTI into Mukti Bahini is underway by the same Military establishment, through their same medieval tactics.

Going after hardworking Pakistanis and stealing their mandate by ousting PM Imran Khan. I'd say it is the worst miscalculation by establishment, bigger than 1971.


The PTI represents sentiment of ordinary Pakistanis, you cant numb an organic movment, these people do all the heavy lifting from blue-collar jobs to labourers. They keep the Pakistani economy running.

I have friends who are scientists, doctors, entrepreneurs, and businessmen, they all support PTI, they love Imran Khan's vision for Pakistan. Because his vision follows the core foundation that Pakistan was created on.

Just by the news of Imran Khan forced removal as PM, the overseas Pakistanis withdraw $2 Billion USD from Roshan Pakistan Accounts within 24 hours.

1 Crore people gathered on different cities of Pakistan to protest and convey their demands.

Not just Pakistan, but internationally huge protests were recorded. Outside of Nawaz Sharif traitor home in London, 8000 Overseas Pakistanis took part in protest.

-- It is still time to do things right and announce free and fair elections, Imran Khan clearly has majority in National Assembly, kindly dont steal our mandate.

 

[12thPlayer]

In the ongoing situation, these are the ground realities:

1) Mr. Bajwa has compromised on the national security of Pakistan to ensure that the Military-Feudal Nexus can keep ruling the submissive people of Pakistan.
2) Mr. Bajwa is confused, and taking knee-jerk reactions, which include the medieval tactics of harassing political workers and social media activists.
3) He has acknowledged the pressure from the people of Pakistan by not attending the Beggar's oath taking ceremony. This also has given the PTI narrative more momentum.
4) Other state institutions have openly declared war on PTI which include the FIA, Judiciary, Police Service, and 80% of the media.
5) The process of converting PTI into Mukti Bahini is underway by the same Military establishment, through their same medieval tactics.


The solution: Elections, but how?

It has become a matter of national security to conduct a national election. The military may have realized the mistake it has made. As Shahbaz Gill puts it:

"Buzurgo, maan lo blunder ho gya hai."
​

But the path to elections is not clear. Is it possible that Shahbaz Sharif just announces election tomorrow out of nowhere? The PDM won't be able to do that. However, I think there is a way:

1) Now that the military may have realized their blunder, they should again start political engineering in Punjab all over again.
2) The establishment should now make sure that Pervaiz Elahi becomes the next Chief Minister of Punjab AT ALL COSTS.
3) Pervaiz Elahi will make the decision to dissolve the Punjab Assembly within a few days after he comes to power.
4) Soon after, KPK assembly will be shattered.
5) The path to the elections will become smoother.


Tomorrow, Imran Khan is all set to hold a jalsa in Peshawar. That jalsa will shake the foundations on which the military establishment and the feudal lords stand on, Inshallah. I won't be surprised if Bajwa himself starts calling PTI dissidents in Punjab assembly after tomorrows Jalsa.

The dissolution of Punjab assembly has become a matter of internal and national security of Pakistan. Furthermore, it is LITERALLY the only way out I can think of. If Punjab assembly goes down, everyone in Pakistan will have some face-saving. The pressure on the establishment will be reduced, PMLN and PPP can continue with their "Imran is corrupt" rhetoric, while IK himself can lead Pakistanis into a new Pakistan that is completely autonomous and "khud-mukhtaar".


@Enigma SIG @Norwegian @Bleek @Pindi Boy @JX-1 @IceCold @nangyale @Ghazwa-e-Hind @Pakistansdefender @Sugarcane @mourning sage @Asimzranger @Path-Finder @Menace2Society @akramishaqkhan

Timeline:
1. After NCV submission on 8th March IK/PTI was saying we have the numbers.
2. When dissidents openly came on TV. PTI MNAs attacked Sindh House.
3. Then PTI tried to bring 63A to disqualify dissidents or to not count their vote.
4. After that PTI tried their best to woo coalition partners but failed.
5. After everything failed and when they realized they don't have numbers the letter came in the picture. I think letter was only for Russia visit due to which US was not happy and in NSC meeting internal matters mentioned was pointing to that visit.

That's why I am not buying this letter thing. Its just political statement. They are not even trying to get them punished. They just want elections and come back in power. That will be Azadi? We will be superpower? What is the plan to improve economy?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/12/sri-lanka-economic-crisis-default-external-debt/

Also opposition is an idiot when petrol is $100+ and inflation is very high, they want to come in govt.

In the end it was just "zid" of both sides. One wanted to remove IK and other side didnt want Shahbaz to become PM. Thats why "Achkan" was the main issue. Pakistan is second priority for both sides.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

I dont expect anything good coming out from this system.

But Khan sahab demanded elections, so be it.

Convicted criminal PM shahbaz must be removed, and fresh elections must be called immediately

 

[12thPlayer]

court timing 11:30 pm to 12:00 am hai and sundays only!

It was an important issue, PTI did everything in a seconds like its just some movie. Dude this is a country.

PTI was dragging everything till midnight instead of voting despite strong orders from court. They were doing cheap tactics and I am sure all the responsible high ranking officials and even whole world was watching PTI cheap tactics of delay.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

It was an important issue, PTI did everything in a seconds like its just some movie. Dude this is a country.

PTI was dragging everything till midnight instead of voting despite strong orders from court. They were doing cheap tactics and I am sure all the responsible high ranking officials and even whole world was watching PTI cheap tactics of delay.

Supreme court defied constitution and intervened in parliamentary proceedings.

The system is rotten.

Dont show your crookedness by hiding behind wall of texts.

 

[Death Adder]

Brother PTI is in crises because of sheeda tali mentality like yours. IK need strategic thinkers (like me) in his core group to rectify past mistakes and move forward with reconciliation. If you can sit with Pervez Elahi and accept lotas from other parties then there’s no harm in sitting with PMLN and PPP.

 

[ghazi52]

court timing 11:30 pm to 12:00 am hai and sundays only!

Is this the new timings for honorable SC.
They are having overtime on top of million rupees per month per judge. Plus bonuses you know what I mean....,

 

[12thPlayer]

Supreme court defied constitution and intervened in parliamentary proceedings.

The system is rotten.

Dont show your crookedness by hiding behind wall of texts.

Then Speaker can do anything like he can announce PM anyone ignoring actual counting.

How can he announce ruling without any independent investigation? PTI FM, PTI PM, PTI Speaker deciding that and NSC meeting words are not clear. It just says internal matters. What type of internal matters. It can be anything. The letter content is not clear. Its just PTI claiming if any independent source can verify then it matters otherwise it will remain mystery.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Then Speaker can do anything like he can announce PM anyone ignoring actual counting.

How can he announce ruling without any independent investigation? PTI FM, PTI PM, PTI Speaker deciding that and NSC meeting words are not clear. It just says internal matters. What type of internal matters. It can be anything. The letter content is not clear. Its just PTI claiming if any independent source can verify then it matters otherwise it will remain mystery.

The NA speaker decision to reject no-confidence-motion was on the basis "Letter" which was acknowledged by tri-forces chiefs and federal cabinet. The speaker's ruling was a sound decision which was taken under confidence of security establishment.

Even supreme court cannot challenge it, they have no authority in constitution. And there are reasons for that, to maintain balance between parliament and judiciary.

Now shoooo!

 

[sohail.ishaque]

In the ongoing situation, these are the ground realities:

1) Mr. Bajwa has compromised on the national security of Pakistan to ensure that the Military-Feudal Nexus can keep ruling the submissive people of Pakistan.
2) Mr. Bajwa is confused, and taking knee-jerk reactions, which include the medieval tactics of harassing political workers and social media activists.
3) He has acknowledged the pressure from the people of Pakistan by not attending the Beggar's oath taking ceremony. This also has given the PTI narrative more momentum.
4) Other state institutions have openly declared war on PTI which include the FIA, Judiciary, Police Service, and 80% of the media.
5) The process of converting PTI into Mukti Bahini is underway by the same Military establishment, through their same medieval tactics.


The solution: Elections, but how?

It has become a matter of national security to conduct a national election. The military may have realized the mistake it has made. As Shahbaz Gill puts it:

"Buzurgo, maan lo blunder ho gya hai."
​

But the path to elections is not clear. Is it possible that Shahbaz Sharif just announces election tomorrow out of nowhere? The PDM won't be able to do that. However, I think there is a way:

1) Now that the military may have realized their blunder, they should again start political engineering in Punjab all over again.
2) The establishment should now make sure that Pervaiz Elahi becomes the next Chief Minister of Punjab AT ALL COSTS.
3) Pervaiz Elahi will make the decision to dissolve the Punjab Assembly within a few days after he comes to power.
4) Soon after, KPK assembly will be shattered.
5) The path to the elections will become smoother.


Tomorrow, Imran Khan is all set to hold a jalsa in Peshawar. That jalsa will shake the foundations on which the military establishment and the feudal lords stand on, Inshallah. I won't be surprised if Bajwa himself starts calling PTI dissidents in Punjab assembly after tomorrows Jalsa.

The dissolution of Punjab assembly has become a matter of internal and national security of Pakistan. Furthermore, it is LITERALLY the only way out I can think of. If Punjab assembly goes down, everyone in Pakistan will have some face-saving. The pressure on the establishment will be reduced, PMLN and PPP can continue with their "Imran is corrupt" rhetoric, while IK himself can lead Pakistanis into a new Pakistan that is completely autonomous and "khud-mukhtaar".


@Enigma SIG @Norwegian @Bleek @Pindi Boy @JX-1 @IceCold @nangyale @Ghazwa-e-Hind @Pakistansdefender @Sugarcane @mourning sage @Asimzranger @Path-Finder @Menace2Society @akramishaqkhan

Pretty decent and workable suggestion. But i don't think that the mood has changed yet. They think that they can still control the things, and they seems reluctant to accept some ground realities. While Imran Khan on the other hand is now fully confident and much more powerful then ever after the sunday showdown in different cities of Pakistan.
I think that had that sunday showdown not taken place, then alot wud had not happened. The resignation wudn't had happened, NCM in KPK wudnt had got rejected so badly, some other candidates of PTI would had left PTI but now everyone has realized that the system might get shaken very badly very soon.

 

[Khan vilatey]

In the ongoing situation, these are the ground realities:

1) Mr. Bajwa has compromised on the national security of Pakistan to ensure that the Military-Feudal Nexus can keep ruling the submissive people of Pakistan.
2) Mr. Bajwa is confused, and taking knee-jerk reactions, which include the medieval tactics of harassing political workers and social media activists.
3) He has acknowledged the pressure from the people of Pakistan by not attending the Beggar's oath taking ceremony. This also has given the PTI narrative more momentum.
4) Other state institutions have openly declared war on PTI which include the FIA, Judiciary, Police Service, and 80% of the media.
5) The process of converting PTI into Mukti Bahini is underway by the same Military establishment, through their same medieval tactics.


The solution: Elections, but how?

It has become a matter of national security to conduct a national election. The military may have realized the mistake it has made. As Shahbaz Gill puts it:

"Buzurgo, maan lo blunder ho gya hai."
​

But the path to elections is not clear. Is it possible that Shahbaz Sharif just announces election tomorrow out of nowhere? The PDM won't be able to do that. However, I think there is a way:

1) Now that the military may have realized their blunder, they should again start political engineering in Punjab all over again.
2) The establishment should now make sure that Pervaiz Elahi becomes the next Chief Minister of Punjab AT ALL COSTS.
3) Pervaiz Elahi will make the decision to dissolve the Punjab Assembly within a few days after he comes to power.
4) Soon after, KPK assembly will be shattered.
5) The path to the elections will become smoother.


Tomorrow, Imran Khan is all set to hold a jalsa in Peshawar. That jalsa will shake the foundations on which the military establishment and the feudal lords stand on, Inshallah. I won't be surprised if Bajwa himself starts calling PTI dissidents in Punjab assembly after tomorrows Jalsa.

The dissolution of Punjab assembly has become a matter of internal and national security of Pakistan. Furthermore, it is LITERALLY the only way out I can think of. If Punjab assembly goes down, everyone in Pakistan will have some face-saving. The pressure on the establishment will be reduced, PMLN and PPP can continue with their "Imran is corrupt" rhetoric, while IK himself can lead Pakistanis into a new Pakistan that is completely autonomous and "khud-mukhtaar".


@Enigma SIG @Norwegian @Bleek @Pindi Boy @JX-1 @IceCold @nangyale @Ghazwa-e-Hind @Pakistansdefender @Sugarcane @mourning sage @Asimzranger @Path-Finder @Menace2Society @akramishaqkhan

Jalsa’s across Pakistan and abroad tomorrow will make the noise that will scare the establishment. Remember how the army caved on the evil Ch Iftikhar. I am sure inshallah the protest across Pakistan will be epic

K

 

[12thPlayer]

The NA speaker decision to reject no-confidence-motion was on the basis "Letter" which was acknowledged by tri-forces chiefs and federal cabinet. The speaker's ruling was a sound decision which was taken under confidence of security establishment.

Even supreme court cannot challenge it, they have no authority in constitution. And there are reasons for that, to maintain balance between parliament and judiciary.

Now shoooo!

If tri-forces acknowledged why they didn't give any statement and ordered arrests after the NSC meeting? Why only demarche to US? It was really an important issue they would have immediately ordered arrests. NSC meeting acknowledged meddling in "internal affairs" I think by that they meant US tried to stop IK from visiting Russia,

Read the detail judgement when it comes out. Every reason will be there to satisfy you. I don't want to waste time here explaining here why SC gave that ruling even Attorney General of PTI government agreed that he is not defending that ruling.

PTI speaker giving ruling when the loss is clear is definitely one sided decision. Everything was pre-planned and he was reading from paper everything.