The number zero was invented in Ancient Pakistan

[VCheng]

True, but misguided notions of the past should not be used to damage the future.

The future will be determined by the hard work of TODAY, not any notions or perceptions.

"History is merely the winner's version of events."

 

[Rafi]

This is our Virsa, and all the achievements and its wonders belong to us

 

[UnitedPak]

Pakistan disowned pre-islamic history...............as far the general perception runs in pakistan........M. BIN QASIM is first pakistani........all others before him were evil bharatis.

There is no such thing as "disowning" history. Neither can you claim history which doesn't belong to your people.

Everyone knows that Ancient 'Pakistan' was responsible for all the greatest mathematical discoveries because "Aryabhatta" and "Vishnugupta" are such typically Pakistani names, right?

The ancestors of Pakistanis will remain the same regardless of what their names were. Unless you can provide evidence that ancestry changes by naming someone differently.

The origin of Pakistani ppl is India whether you like or not. India as it was in Ashoka's day was and still is a melting pot of various ppl. They intermarried and changed faith. The ppl of pakstan are of Indian stock...case closed.

British India? There was no India before this, unless you are under the impression that the subcontinent is called India... which it is not.

The origin of Pakistani people is the Indus Valley. Note that this is a geographic term because no nation existed back then. Also, there is no such thing as "Indian stock" or there would be no ethnic groups like Punjabis, Sindhis, Pashtuns etc.

 

[SpArK]

Ancestors of Americans are red Indians..

So the logic applies there too.

 

[LaBong]

Pakistanis have 'ancestors on choice', lucky lot they are.

No offence meant!

 

[LAKHNAVI]

A lot of the Indians on here seem to be trying to leech Pakistani history by claiming references that say the number zero was invented in India, refer to modern day India.

This somehow justifies the leeching of Pakistani inventions like the number zero. So, to put this straight

So you can see that when no beads have been moved, you need a symbol to represent “0". This symbol is very important, in order to show that this is the number 15730 and not the much smaller number 1573. It was probably in using an abacus that the Hindus of the Indus valley in today’s Pakistan first invented zero.
From Zero to Hero - MSN Encarta

I would also like to point out some other Mathematical concepts our leechy friends try to steal by claiming that since their country today is called India, these inventions occurred within modern day India, when in fact they occurred in modern day Pakistan.

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Pingala's Binary numeral system - usage of Pascal's Triangle and Fibonnacci numbers - Discovered 300 BC in Ancient Pakistan.
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Panini's transformations and recursions - - Discovered 500 BC in the Indus Valley
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Negative numbers - used for the first time in Ancient Pakistan
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Many more things too. The name confusion caused at partition is nicely summarized:

"The first mathematics which we shall describe in this article developed in the Indus valley. The earliest known urban Indian culture was first identified in 1921 at Harappa in the Punjab and then, one year later, at Mohenjo-daro, near the Indus River in the Sindh. Both these sites are now in Pakistan but this is still covered by our term "Indian mathematics" which, in this article, refers to mathematics developed in the Indian subcontinent."
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good, now that apart from terrorism you have nothing worthwhile to show since the formation of pakistan you have started claiming inventions and achivments which have been ours. if you people think the same then why did you kept quite when your stooges the taliban were destrying the bemian Buddhas

 

[desiman]

Pakistanis have 'ancestors on choice', lucky lot they are.

No offence meant!

True, sometimes its the Aryans sometimes its the Mughals lol anyways what is ancient Pakistan ? Even the term Pakistan wasnt coined before the 1930's.

 

[LaBong]

There is no such thing as "disowning" history. Neither can you claim history which doesn't belong to your people.

Why the history doesn't belong to us? Because Govt of India doesn't rule the land which is now Pakistan?

This is a parochial way of seeing the history. If we narrow it down more, then only the history of Bengal belongs to me. Let's narrow it even more, the History of West Bengal, or the History of Calcutta. So where does it end? The history of my blood-line? :s

The ancestors of Pakistanis will remain the same regardless of what their names were. Unless you can provide evidence that ancestry changes by naming someone differently.

The ancestors of Pakistanis they could be, but that doesn't make it any less ancestor of us. Unless you can prove it scientifically Pakistanis are genetically different than Indians and there's been no migration whatsoever between modern day Pakistan and modern day India, since ancient time.

British India? There was no India before this, unless you are under the impression that the subcontinent is called India... which it is not.

What subcontinent was called is not a matter of concern, what subcontinent's people have been since time immemorial, deserve your attention.

The origin of Pakistani people is the Indus Valley. Note that this is a geographic term because no nation existed back then. Also, there is no such thing as "Indian stock" or there would be no ethnic groups like Punjabis, Sindhis, Pashtuns etc.

They are linguistic groups, not ethnic groups. There's no ethnically different Pakistani exists except Pashtuns. And Pashtun history is not that of India's(India doesn't refer to Republic of India here!) and vice versa.

 

[LAKHNAVI]

There is no such thing as "disowning" history. Neither can you claim history which doesn't belong to your people.



The ancestors of Pakistanis will remain the same regardless of what their names were. Unless you can provide evidence that ancestry changes by naming someone differently.



British India? There was no India before this, unless you are under the impression that the subcontinent is called India... which it is not.

The origin of Pakistani people is the Indus Valley. Note that this is a geographic term because no nation existed back then. Also, there is no such thing as "Indian stock" or there would be no ethnic groups like Punjabis, Sindhis, Pashtuns etc.

if disowning history is not the case then how come all your missiles , ships and tanks are named after the muslim invaders of ''ancient pakistan'' and not on the great people of the so called anscint pakistan.
just as the aryans pushed back read south the dravidiansliving in that region similarly the muslim invaders pushed back the aryans living in the so called ''ancient pakistan''.
had you been really living in the ''ancient pakistan'' , at the time of Alexander's invasion you would have been fimiliar with the word INDICIES the predecessor of the modern day word INDIA.

 

[Solomon2]

Maybe instead of "India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh" the world should re-name these countries "South India, North India, and East India"! There is, after all, a lot of truth in that so much history is shared between them.

In any case you have to admit it would make life a lot simpler for the geographically challenged!

 

[LaBong]

British India? There was no India before this, unless you are under the impression that the subcontinent is called India... which it is not.

A revisit to history class needed here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indica_(Megasthenes)

We have more definite information regarding the parts of India Megasthenes visited. He entered the country through the district of the Pentapotamia, providing a full account of the rivers there (thought to be the five affluents of the Indus that form the Punjab region), and proceeded from there by the royal road to Pataliputra. There are accounts of Megasthenes having visited Madurai (then, a bustling city and capital of the Pandya Kingdom), but appears not to have visited any other parts of India. At the beginning of his Indica, he refers to the older Indians who know about the prehistoric arrival of Dionysus and Hercules in India. A story very popular amongst the Greeks during the Alexandrian period. Particularly important are his comments on the religions of the Indians. He mentions the devotees of Hercules (Shiva) and Dionysus (Krishna or Indra), but he does not write a word for Buddhists, something that gives ground to the theory that the latter religion was not widely known before the reign of Asoka.[2]
His Indica served as an important source to many later writers such as Strabo and Arrian. He describes such features as the Himalayas and the island of Sri Lanka. He also described a caste system entirely different from what exist today, showing that the caste system is fluid and evolves. His description follows:
The first is formed by the collective body of the Philosophers, which in point of number is inferior to the other classes, but in point of dignity preeminent over all. The philosopher who errs in his predictions incurs censure, and then observes silence for the rest of his life.
The second caste consists of the Husbandmen, who appear to be far more numerous than the others. They devote the whole of their time to tillage; nor would an enemy coming upon a husbandman at work on his land do him any harm, for men of this class, being regarded as public benefactors, are protected from all injury.
The third caste consists of the Shepherds and in general of all herdsmen who neither settle in towns nor in villages, but live in tents.
The fourth caste consists of the Artizans. Of these some are armourers, while others make the implements that husbandmen and others find useful in their different callings. This class is not only exempted from paying taxes, but even receives maintenance from the royal exchequer.
The fifth caste is the Military. It is well organized and equipped for war, holds the second place in point of numbers, and gives itself up to idleness and amusement in the times of peace. The entire force--men-at-arms, war-horses, war-elephants, and all--are maintained at the king's expense.
The sixth caste consists of the Overseers. It is their province to inquire into and superintend all that goes on in India, and make report to the king, or, where there is not a king, to the magistrates.
The seventh caste consists of the Councillors and Assessors,--of those who deliberate on public affairs. It is the smallest class, looking to number, but the most respected, on account of the high character and wisdom of its members; for from their ranks the advisers of the king are taken, and the treasurers, of the state, and the arbiters who settle disputes. The generals of the army also, and the chief magistrates, usually belong to this class.

 

[LaBong]

Maybe instead of "India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh" the world should re-name these countries "South India, North India, and East India"! There is, after all, a lot of truth in that so much history is shared between them.

In any case you have to admit it would make life a lot simpler for the geographically challenged!

Republic of India has both North and South India parts. Pakistan can be West if they want.

 

[Rafi]

if disowning history is not the case then how come all your missiles , ships and tanks are named after the muslim invaders of ''ancient pakistan'' and not on the great people of the so called anscint pakistan.
just as the aryans pushed back read south the dravidiansliving in that region similarly the muslim invaders pushed back the aryans living in the so called ''ancient pakistan''.
had you been really living in the ''ancient pakistan'' , at the time of Alexander's invasion you would have been fimiliar with the word INDICIES the predecessor of the modern day word INDIA.

And who are indians to tell us, what the name of our missiles should be, the height of inferiority complex.

Academics now consider all the history in the Indus region, to be Ancient Pakistan, and Balochi, Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtoon, Kashmiri etc are ethnicities, what right does a Bengali, or Tamil, or UP person have on the Indus - NON What So Ever

Everything within the territorial boundaries is the exclusive cultural component of Pakistan.

 

[LaBong]

And who are indians to tell us, what the name of our missiles should be, the height of inferiority complex.

Academics now consider all the history in the Indus region, to be Ancient Pakistan, and Balochi, Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtoon, Kashmiri etc are ethnicities, what right does a Bengali, or Tamil, or UP person have on the Indus - NON What So Ever

Everything within the territorial boundaries is the exclusive cultural component of Pakistan.

Aren't Indus people Persian?

 

[Rafi]

Aren't Indus people Persian?

What ever they are, they are definitely not indic