The new found Russia Pak friendship: When did it all start?

[CBU-105]

Yes, the ties may have been there all along the history. But you know the new spark in the relation… When did it exactly start? I think it was in 2014 or 2015, when Modi was still new to the post of PM. Someone remarked about Modi mishandling the job and remarked that before Modi it could never be imagined that Russia may sell arms to Pakistan. I think that is where it all started.

The Right wing here have long suspected and had serious reservations over the fact? that the Soviet Union, and then Russia/Putin has held too much sway over the left/congress, so when Modi came to power he took a hard right on the foreign policy front and embraced the US/west to steer us away from too much Russian influence. Not entirely a bad move, we here know well that there has been massive corruption with arms/weapon systems contracts, as well as the fact that Russian gear needs a lot more maintenance, spares and support have also been issues.

A lot of it is our domestic political agenda bleeding into the foreign policy bit and that has resulted in this drift away from Russia. It's a bit of a shame, but Russia now has to compete in the free market with others for contracts, a lot of which they'll still win.

It's a different world now, no more cold war, Trump elected in the US, and if he can fight the neocon hawks in his own party and his opposition and cool things with Russia down, that would be the best thing for India-Russia relations, Modi was getting too cozy with the slimy Obama administration, I think they'll do better when dealing with a nationalist right wing US administration.

Russia has taken serious objection to the 'leak' by the Pakistani authorities, in their media, about the visit of Alexander Bortnikov, Head of the Russian External Intelligence service, or the FSB, to Pakistan between November 25-27, 2016.

The visit which was designed to garner Pakistani support for operations in Allepo, Syria, was compromised by pro-Saudi factions within the Pakistani establishment, according to informed sources.

very interesting, what an insane game, the grand chessboard.

 

[Gregor Clegane]

What ever Russia rejects to Pakistan can be hand via the alternate route of China..later on Russia will join and sign directly with Pakistan over stepping any Indian objection...that is how we secured RD93 engines for JF17 and a lot of hardware in the future as well.

Russian ambassador did not call it low level co-operation.. this is a figment of Indian embarrassment..what he precisely did was took shots on Indian randi rona!



this press release of secret visit being leaked is again an product of Indian rona dhona!
They couldn't find a genuine news so they invented one to frame Pakistan...

You can clearly see in the video of Russian envoy, he Said cooperation with India is 100× higher and one with Pakistan is low level and purely commercial unlike special strategic privileged one with India.

Russia will never sale high end equipment to Pakistan and India in fact supports RD-93 as it can be used by Russians to deactivate jets during war with India.

sources.
https://defence.pk/threads/sino-****...ll-rd-93-engine-directly-to-islamabad.347084/

That was just a claim by Oak defence minister two years bsck, so far there has no progress since on that.

 

[I S I]

That was just a claim by Oak defence minister two years bsck, so far there has no progress since on that

Wow, now you expect Putin to come to India & whisper in Modi ji's ear that they're supplying RD93 engines to Pakistan?

 

[CBU-105]

India in fact supports RD-93 as it can be used by Russians to deactivate jets during war with India.

like a special kill switch ?

or did you mean that they might stop spares/supplies if war broke out bet India and Pakistan ?

 

[somebozo]

You can clearly see in the video of Russian envoy, he Said cooperation with India is 100× higher and one with Pakistan is low level and purely commercial unlike special strategic privileged one with India.

Russia will never sale high end equipment to Pakistan and India in fact supports RD-93 as it can be used by Russians to deactivate jets during war with India.



That was just a claim by Oak defence minister two years bsck, so far there has no progress since on that.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1696026164041252

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Secondly, We cannot understand these people jealousy !

Taking a very clear shot on the narrow minded Indians...

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Yes, the ties may have been there all along the history. But you know the new spark in the relation… When did it exactly start? I think it was in 2014 or 2015, when Modi was still new to the post of PM. Someone remarked about Modi mishandling the job and remarked that before Modi it could never be imagined that Russia may sell arms to Pakistan. I think that is where it all started.

Started in 1966 when Soviet Union made arms transfers to Pakistan.

From then the Russo-Pak bonhomie began

http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/html/export_values.php

 

[Gregor Clegane]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1696026164041252

Exact Word:

Secondly, We cannot understand these people jealousy !

Taking a very clear shot on the narrow minded Indians...

Yes, he Said he exactly what I Said, cooperation with Pakistan is a low level one.

like a special kill switch ?

or did you mean that they might stop spares/supplies if war broke out bet India and Pakistan ?

The 2nd one.

 

[Intutive]

There are no friendships between countries. Every country is on their own. The country will help each other only till the time they serve each other interests either monetarily or something else.
Take the case of US of A and UK. They have been thick as thieves from great war times (WW1) but US of A didn't supported UK during 1956 suez canal invasion against the Egypt.

Russia after sanctions needs market to sell its arm nothing more nothing less. China will use Pakistan to bog down India to its neighbour but will not let Pakistan cross the threshold as it doesn't wants other South korea and Japan in its neighbourhood. Saudis will support Pakistan till the time Pakistan military machine is helping them if any country offers Saudis the same along with nuclear shield then Pakistan can surely kiss their *** whatever Pakis want. Pakistan will stick around all these countries till it is getting benefited in terms of soft loans from China and Saudi and arms and weaponry from Russia. Previously it was USA now it is void over there anybody can fill that void Russia, China or whomever has that capability to do that.

just rubbish analysis...

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Next Russian I will see I will hug that person and say come brother visit us in Pakistan

 

[takeiteasy]

What Modi and RSS-BJP Bhakts believes is that it is great diplomacy happening with all that photo posing and hugging, smiles etc etc. Au Contraire, This man goofed it all. RSS Gobarnment rule loving Bhakts are never going to acknowledge., still.

 

[xyxmt]

Kiddo, Russia sold helicopters to Pakistan even in 1980s, so no big deal.
Also no direct sale agreement of RD-93 signed so far.

then why on earth we have a new thread on this topic every day and not from Pakistanis only Indians too, like a kids both trying to make other believe that the biggest boy in school is my best friend.

 

[I S I]

What Modi and RSS-BJP Bhakts believes is that it is great diplomacy happening with all that photo posing and hugging, smiles etc etc. Au Contraire, This man goofed it all. RSS Gobarnment rule loving Bhakts are never going to acknowledge., still.

Finally, a sane Indian.

 

[WebMaster]

CPEC is going to change Russian ways. Russia needs to look beyond $10 billion of military business with India.

Exercise with Pakistan
RD-93 engines
Mi Helicopter sales

Things are changing slowly but surely.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

China - Technoloy Hub , Manufacturing Hub, Finance Hub, Defence
Pakistan - Agricultural Hub , Textile , Sports goods, Coal
Russia - Oil & Gas , Heavy Industries , Defence
Turkey - Manufacturing , Technology Agricultural hub

Great prospects

Other Beneficiaries

• GCCSs
• Iran
• Europe most if not all
  
• Even Eastern Asia

May be bring Egypt into Mix for Hub point in Africa

 

[wiseone2]

Oh my sunshine, before superman Modi ji's hard stance against Pakistan, Russia was selling null to Pakistan. Now we're getting modern Mi35s, direct sales of RD93 Engines & whatnot. Keep burning baby..

RD-93 engines happened four years ago. it is courtesy of china whose jf-17 would not be operational with those engines.
Four Mi-35 helicopters makes no difference

Unless Pakistan ponies up money there is nothing Russians can offer you

The Indians desperately want Pakistan to move away from USA quickly.

why would India want that ?

CPEC is going to change Russian ways. Russia needs to look beyond $10 billion of military business with India.

Exercise with Pakistan
RD-93 engines
Mi Helicopter sales

Things are changing slowly but surely.

Russia might change relationship with Pakistan
It is nothing to do with CPEC