The Moral Collapse and gradual break down of American/Western Society

[Desert Fox]

Where did i mentioned authors religion? I said it's religiously motivated as the author himself propound the idea that by not following religion the western society is morally collapsing.

Nowhere did the author state such a thing or imply it. He did say the following in the beginning of the article:

The collection of facts and statistics that you are about to read is highly controversial. A lot of people are going to be greatly upset by it. Why? Because they don’t like to be confronted with the truth about America. Most people tend to believe that we can “fix this country” by getting the right politicians into power or by implementing certain economic or social reforms. But the reality of the matter is that our problems go far deeper than that. A moral collapse is eating away at the foundations of our society like cancer. If it continues to go unchecked, it will inevitably destroy America. Unfortunately, fixing moral decay is far more difficult than switching out political parties, because it is in the hearts of hundreds of millions of individual Americans. And most people don’t want to hear anything about a “moral collapse”, because most people like to think that the United States is setting a “good example” for the rest of the planet. But as you will see below, that is not the case at all.

Nothing "religiously motivated" there.

Having lived in America for 19 years, one can clearly see that this article is not fictitious, especially when considering the fact that the author uses gov.t and other reliable sources like CDC, etc.

 

[Falcon29]

That was my point it is unavoidable, but no parent likes it.

You're wrong, I've been to a birthday 'gathering' and parents were fine with drinking. Two girls who were also drunk were all over each other doing all kinds of things. I almost left until they left short after that.

Mamba, you're still ahead of us, you haven't seen our generation.

Nowhere did the author state such a thing or imply it. He did say the following in the beginning of the article:



Nothing "religiously motivated" there.

Having lived in America for 19 years, one can clearly see that this article is not fictitious, especially when considering the fact that the author uses gov.t and other reliable sources like CDC, etc.

You live here? You're 19 years old?

 

[KingMamba]

You're wrong, I've been to a birthday 'gathering' and parents were fine with drinking. Two girls who were also drunk were all over each other doing all kinds of things. I almost left until they left short after that.

Mamba, you're still ahead of us, you haven't seen our generation.

I am pretty sure I am younger than you. Some parents may be Ok with drinking but they are usually in the minority.

 

[Falcon29]

I am pretty sure I am younger than you. Some parents may be Ok with drinking but they are usually in the minority.

There's no way you're younger than me.

You don't nothing yet that people do trying to imitate movies and stuff. I've seen the most good looking girls at this one school who hung out with their friends. Obviously they were drinking and from there it turned into a you know what between all of them. And I thought these girls were polite and innocent. Trust me it's crazier than you think, you just need to be at these events. In high school there was also a oral party not kidding you called a rainbow party.

I didn't believe it at first. Things have gotten out of control and just messed up.

I apologize for being too graphic.

 

[Desert Fox]

Here is a refutation.

Look at the long lines in the Visa offices in South Asian nations.

No matter how you slice it, the U.S. of A provides a better life, better social mobility, tolerance than any feudal societies on this planet.

Especially of the countries which the posters claiming to be of moral high ground



Precisely my point.

The living standards in New Zealand is far better than where I come from.

You are right, that America and other Western countries do indeed provide a better quality of living compared to other countries of the world. If i were to try and deny that fact then i'd be fooling none but myself. However, quality isn't just in terms of material living standards and the availability of goods, otherwise we wouldn't see such shootings taking place on a monthly basis, along with massive drug addiction and alcohol abuse which leads to other heinous crimes. Why do a good percentage of Americans take anti-depressants?? Why do a lot of young girls resort to working in the pornographic industry and young men to selling drugs to pay off college debt because they can't find a proper job to sustain themselves due to restricted job market?? Why only 20% of Americans own 93% of wealth?? Why is degeneracy spreading at such a rapid speed amongst the youth of the nation, the very people who will take responsibility of the nation in the future??

It seems, that material satisfaction can never fill in certain important voids.

 

[KingMamba]

There's no way you're younger than me.

You don't nothing yet that people do trying to imitate movies and stuff. I've seen the most good looking girls at this one school who hung out with their friends. Obviously they were drinking and from there it turned into a you know what between all of them. And I thought these girls were polite and innocent. Trust me it's crazier than you think, you just need to be at these events. In high school there was also a oral party not kidding you called a rainbow party.

I didn't believe it at first. Things have gotten out of control and just messed up.

I apologize for being too graphic.

Bro I am 20 and have attended many of these parties even got an orgy invite once lmao I have pretty much seen everything and I attended most of these parties when I was in high school around 16 years old. That being said I know that many parents are not fans of such things although it is true when desertfox says they have started to accept them as a norm they cannot fight.

 

[VCheng]

Summary of this thread:

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw.

 

[ranjeet]

Read the list from Point 84 onwards. that's what gives it a religious tone. not doubting the stats I called the list BS because every nation suffers from some sort of social ills in varying degrees. But calling it moral collapse and gradual break down of society is presumptuous.

Nowhere did the author state such a thing or imply it. He did say the following in the beginning of the article:

Nothing "religiously motivated" there.

Having lived in America for 19 years, one can clearly see that this article is not fictitious, especially when considering the fact that the author uses gov.t and other reliable sources like CDC, etc.

 

[Falcon29]

@Ravi Nair

I'm not claiming any moral high ground for other nations. You're right about your points. Although immoral things from where I come are not even close. An immoral thing would be a couple going on a date before marriage. That's a redline and not common. Sex out of wedlock is very rare as well, you're talking dozens or hundreds of people who have done so out of the near 2 million population.

Morality wise, when it comes to other aspects of life of course western nations shine.

Bro I am 20 and have attended many of these parties even got an orgy invite once lmao I have pretty much seen everything and I attended most of these parties when I was in high school around 16 years old. That being said I know that many parents are not fans of such things although it is true when desertfox says they have started to accept them as a norm they cannot fight.

I gotta hear that story in the Arabic coffee shop.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The best thing to do is ignore such purveyors of sh1t.

just like everybody ignores you... actually hate you and is disgusted by you.

 

[VCheng]

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

lmao.....................

 

[KingMamba]

I gotta hear that story in the Arabic coffee shop.

Not much of a story actually.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Summary of this thread:

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw.

attention dont wrestle with this guy ..

This guy got his education in Pak.. mocks our martyred soldiers... hates our country.. is a pessimist when it comes to Pak n its future......but look at this advocating usa in every other thread.. which doesnt even concern him..Pathetic.

 

[Indus Falcon]

@DESERT FIGHTER Yara ek baat batao, how come people can insult Islam on this forum and don't get banned?