The Monster Breathes Air

[kalu_miah]

Nice,The pot calling the kettle black

Quoted for irony.

 

[Azazel]

Quoted for irony.

Yeah right,Now what??Quote me for being funny.Spare me your Indophobia.

 

[kalu_miah]

Yeah right,Now what??Quote me for being funny.Spare me your Indophobia.

At least you did not say Hinduphobia, I give you credit for that.

 

[animelive]

Another thing, I really doubt if Shibir boys even know how to make a bomb or load an AK.

My cousin is a Shibir associate(below cadre rank) and i have met Shibir members(cadres), they are very well educated and never even used sharp weapons, let alone guns. But the same cannot be said about chatra league. we can clearly see the terrorists here.

 

[Azazel]

At least you did not say Hinduphobia, I give you credit for that.

Nah,I don't have to say obvious things.Besides,the term Indophobia covers it all.

 

[SatishChandra07]

@WebMaster

Please note: The highest traffic Indian website Bharat Rakshak has a long running thread called:
The Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan

Question is why India should not be called the same using the same language, while Indian govt. is engaged in terror operations in all neighbor countries as well as on minorities within India, such as Muslims in Kashmir, East Asians in North East states, Dalits in Naxalite affected states etc.

You are right in some aspects, but not all Indians are Hindutva followers, some of us will continue to resist these middle aged barbarians and prevent these fascist goons led by modi from coming to power.

 

[kalu_miah]

Nah,I don't have to say obvious things.Besides,the term Indophobia covers it all.

No your term is precise. I have valid Indophobia because of India's track record as a state. I have no issues with any people practicing their religion, as long as it does not get into extremism affecting others.

 

[idune]

You are right in some aspects, but not all Indians are Hindutva followers, some of us will continue to resist these middle aged barbarians and prevent these fascist goons led by modi from coming to power.

Change your own people and propaganda then come and lecture someone else. Until then you are all the same.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Reconcile To The Truth

This defence of Bangla’s fundamentalist Jamaat-e-Islami is ludicrous

Bharat Bhushan



The claim that “the best thing” about the Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami is that it did not kill Hindus “simply because of their faith” but only targeted them as political adversaries “owing allegiance to the Awami League” is astounding (S.N.M. Abdi, The Monster Breathes Air, Mar 18). As if a secular political murder is better than a communal one. Political murder is as despicable because it runs counter to the grain of democratic politics. This is the first questionable assumption in Abdi’s analysis of the Jamaat-e-Islami. Second, having elevated the Jamaat to a dubious respectability because it doesn’t kill Hindus for their religion, he argues that India must deal with them diplomatically because its members are not “sworn enemies of India or Hindus”. In effect, he assumes that India’s foreign pol*icy is dictated by Hindu interests.

India is bigger than the sum total of its Hindu population. It is not a Hindu nation and is not in the bus*iness of promotion and protection of Hinduism. There is no Hindu ‘umma’ (brotherhood). There are, however, international conventions and covenants on human rights, religious freedom etc which India along with every other civilised nation supports. To suggest that India’s foreign policy should be based on how Hindus are treated in a particular country—be it Fiji, Indonesia, Mauritius, Bangladesh or Pakistan—is ludicrous.

Third, Abdi projects the Jamaat as a flexible organisation, ever ready to change and adapt, ostensibly demonstrated by deleting the “rule of Allah” in its political charter. This, as he admits, was done on the ‘prodding’ of the Bangladesh Election Commission. However, the constitution of the Jamaat still declares its goal to be "establishing rule of Allah on every nook and corner (sic) of the person, family, society and the state" (Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami). Abdi seems to have taken the change in the charter of registration as proof of a genuine change of ideology, forgetting the old adage, ‘All warfare is based on deception’. Doesn’t the RSS claim that it is a ‘cultural organisation’ while appointing the top political functionaries of the BJP?

Fourth, for Abdi, the progressive credentials of the Jamaat are further established by its promise of 33 per cent reservation for women in the legislature. This, he says, should please the “Hindutva poster girls like Sushma Swaraj, Sha*ina Chudasama, Nirmala Sitharaman, Smriti Irani and Mee*nakshi Lekhi” of the BJP. The demand for women’s reservation in India is not limited to any one political party. His gratuitous abuse of the BJP adds nothing to understanding the communal character of the party and doesn’t bolster his secular credentials. Cheap abuse, especially against women in public life, is unacceptable and Abdi should not expect his friends—I am one of them—to stand by and applaud.

Fifth, Abdi assumes that it would be productive for India to engage the Jamaat in a dialogue. He does not say what would be the aim of engaging with an organisation which participated in the genocide in 1971. Though not all the three million people killed then were murdered by the Jamaat, it has not renounced either violence or its actions of 1971. Although politics is the art of the possible, there are red lines which are not crossed even in that most public of arenas.

These outlandish suggestions follow from Abdi’s acceptance of the Jamaat’s reinvented narrative of itself. In doing so, he ignores the counter-narrative which most Bangladeshis—and others concer*ned with the spread of Islamist fundamentalism—believe.

The Jamaat as an organisation, led by radical clerics, wants to cre*ate an Islamic state there. It regrets the formation of Bangladesh and collaborated with the Pakistan army in hunting down and killing fellow citizens. Its leaders stand accused of rape, murder and arson. Even today, the Jamaat dreams of a ‘neo-Pakistan’ and along with its allies, the Islamic Okiya Jote and the Bangladesh National Party (BNP), wants to “revive the spirit of 1947” when the Partition of India took place based on the two-nation theory, “restore Islamic values” and bring Bangladesh “out of Indian domination”.

During 1971, the activists of the Jamaat’s student wing, Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba and Islami Chhatra Sangha (now, Islami Chhatra Shibir), actively helped the Pakistan army set up militias to hunt down freedom fighters. Matiur Rahman Nizami, later to become a minister in Khaleda Zia’s government, led a ferocious militia called Al Badr—its death squads specialised in killing prominent intellectuals and activists. This is the organisation which Abdi seeks to adorn with respectability and provide the oxygen of legitimacy.

Reconcile To The Truth | Bharat Bhushan

 

[GR!FF!N]

You are right in some aspects, but not all Indians are Hindutva followers, some of us will continue to resist these middle aged barbarians and prevent these fascist goons led by modi from coming to power.

you generally change your flag twice a day..so please don't mention yourself as "Indian"..post your comment as a one person.most of members here know that who you are and what your previous IDs are.... and FYI,most of parties in India use goons as a tool.UPA govt is no better as they looted several lakh crores via various scam.so,why don't you choose what party you'll support(I bet you are not Indian,so,there is no way you'll vote) and let others choose theirs..

 

[GR!FF!N]

A private author of Israeli origin?

Any official statements from the Indian government regarding Shibir's involvement with SIMI's activities? The 90's were a long time ago you know.

If they had cooperated with the Bangladesh government, I'm sure something would have turned up. So far, I haven't seen any investigations regarding that, despite friendly relations with India. They can do it even now.

And those are very serious allegations.

Another thing, I really doubt if Shibir boys even know how to make a bomb or load an AK.

Otherwise, it is only the author's opinions.

and @Kalu Miah

I don't think any link would be enough for you..anyway,read this...

The SIMI has links with the Jamaat-e-Islam (JeI) units in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal. It also has a close working relationship with the Islami Chhatra Shibir (ICS), the students’ wing of the JeI in Bangladesh. The SIMI is also alleged to have close links with the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM), and the ISI.

Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)

 

[kalu_miah]

and @Kalu Miah

I don't think any link would be enough for you..anyway,read this...

The SIMI has links with the Jamaat-e-Islam (JeI) units in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal. It also has a close working relationship with the Islami Chhatra Shibir (ICS), the students’ wing of the JeI in Bangladesh. The SIMI is also alleged to have close links with the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM), and the ISI.

Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)

You posted a link from SATP:
Support Us, South Asia Terrorism Portal

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I rest my case.

 

[Zabaniyah]

"Commissioned studies"