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Deal or no deal... problem is EU's not ours....

But ultimately i think, Frau Merkel will all line up those clowns.

Merkel is finished in EU as well as in germany. she could not prevent that the balkan gets closed. we make reality now.

And with all due respect, we wont place our security into the hands of a country we dont trust. Turkey is no reliable partner. It is not european, it has civil war, massive terrorism and is involved with ISIS.

The plan is to seal off the Balkan. The chaos in greece will have a reverse thrust effect on the refugees which stay where they are.

Well refugee have no gender, and normally if family is with a male the male person works and then gets off the support system and starts to integrate into society with his family

It is quite idiotic that turn away any refugee

Germany / Canada have shown that it is not hard to integrate folks running away from crisis

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Canada & Germany leading the way on moral grounds

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True Leadership material
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in germany they burn down the refugee camps. crime rises and they have to hunt them down. It is impossible to integrate muslims into europe. thats a simple fact.

why should we take this burden? Its far easier to fight them off. You can take them.
 
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Merkel is finished in EU as well as in germany. she could not prevent that the balkan gets closed. we make reality now.

And with all due respect, we wont place our security into the hands of a country we dont trust. Turkey is no reliable partner. It is not european, it has civil war, massive terrorism and is involved with ISIS.

The plan is to seal off the Balkan. The chaos in greece will have a reverse thrust effect on the refugees which stay where they are.
Markus you are not realistic and on the other hand you are impulsive.....keep believe what you have to believe, i don't argue with guys like you.
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Bro, this guy has a routine...he gets banned. when ban expires, he comes back acts a little nice for a week. Then switches on his troll button...goes full racist....and gets banned. It's an unending circle. So, don't need to waste your time over this worthless guy because soon he will be banned.

Thanks to standards of this forum guys like him are not perma-banned but only temporally banned.

@waz As a mod, i would like to hear your opinion on this ?
 
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Italy has refused to do anything about them so far because they know they'll just move north. Same with Greece These two countries should be cut off from the rest of Europe with fences until they take action.
 
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They will need leaders like Trump.........btw any idea how many americans are going to migrate to Canada if Trump comes in to power?


"The numbers of refugees arriving in germany dropped dramatically and are almost 0 now. "

But how will you get those already in Europe to leave? As I understand it, any Pakistani who destroys their documentation Pakistan won't take back, the Turks want the right to expand their influence into Europe again, Belgium has accepted that its next generation will be majority-Muslim, Sweden is under threat, and the no-go areas in France are expanding.
 
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They will need leaders like Trump.........btw any idea how many americans are going to migrate to Canada if Trump comes in to power?
63 percent of Americans view Trump negatively according to latest Gallup poll. No presidential candidate since polling has scored this low.
 
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This thread makes for amazing reading. There is utter lack of understanding how the world works. The days of living in your own little pond and living in splendid isolation are over. Go ask the Native American's how their sense of propriety and peace was frigged big time. It was not that the Native Americans flooded Europe. No. It was other way around. Europeans flooded the Americas. Dare I say millions of hungry, destitute, vagrants from Italy flooded the land of the Apache, Mohawk and Comanche. Today they form a significant group under the title of Italiam Americans. So the entire notion of "migrants" or migration is well known in Italy.

The second point to note is that Italy is just minor bit player in the larger western architecture led by USA. The Western world for good or bad needs the Middle East and North Africa. This is fact. Long before ME began hitting the shores of Europe it was Europe unloading on the shores of North Africa and in addition resolving European problems like failure to live in peace with it's own Jewish citizens as evidenced in the mass cull of 1939-45. Thence Europe exported it's problem simply by shifting significant numbers of European Jewry to ME in Palestine thereby seamlessly moved a European problem to a Middle Eastern problem which burns to this day.

It is remarkable in that much of the language @Markus is using was seen in 1940s Europe only then it was directed at the Jews. The irony being @Solomon2 (who I assume to be Jew) is today actively supporting something that burnt his people only two generations back in same Germany. The victim has become the abuser.

Going back to the Western order the fact is ME and North Africa are critical parts of it's framework. Economic and military as evidenced by US military bases all over ME. Vacate this region to China and see the threat to the soft underbelly of Europe. Italy in particular and we all know Italian reputation on the love front but rather infamous reputation on the war front when they surrendered at the first shot en masses. Maybe we might see a future invasion of Italy from Tunisia only this time under Chinese power.

On that score let me tell you about a rather famous chap from my ancestral region. He served in what was the Frontier Regiment (now in Pakistan Army) and him and his mates had lot of fun in Italy and it was not only killing Germans. Yes Sepoy (trooper to you) Ali Haider won Victoria Cross while kicking the Germans out of Italy when the Italians were wearing womens clothes and making pizzas. Oh and Frontier Regiment had hell of a time humping all the local donne bella. After all they had never tasted circumcised d*ck.

Source > Ali Haidar VC - victoriacross

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Now let me teach you guy's of something big. Something real big right now multiplying. A problem that when it hits Italy will make ME problem look like b'tch fight in pizza parlour. Deep in Sub Saharan Africa the Black population is increasing. Increasing at faster than anywhere else in the world. This is going to be Ebola problem of epic proportions as Sub Saharan Africa populations heads to four times more than Europe by 2050.

Source > Africa's population explosion will change humanity - Tech Insider
Source > How will a population boom change Africa? - BBC News



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Now where do you think these billions will head to. As they get hungry? The North (map below) Yes, you got it. They are going to head to the shores of Meditearnean. Then they are going to make landfall in Italia. The future of Italy will be waves of Africa. To use the words of Spike Lee Italia is gonna catch "jungle fever".


FjLeCeZ.png


Now the interesting thing about Italy is this wave of Africanization with be nothing new. It has happened in the past. I leave you guy's with Dennis Hopper at his best giving a history lesson to bunch of Italians on their bloodline. Go to 6:48 to get the full punch. So those beaches on Anzio that saw Sepoy Ali Haider hit in 1944 to help free the Italians from the Germans will see another kind of invasion that might have profound effect on Italy.



You can see this African connection in actors like American Italian John Turturro.

john-turturro-05.jpg
 
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This thread makes for amazing reading. There is utter lack of understanding how the world works. The days of living in your own little pond and living in splendid isolation are over. Go ask the Native American's how their sense of propriety and pace was frigged big time. It was that the Native American flooded Europe. It was other way around. Europeans flooded the Americas. Dare I say millions of hungry, destitute, vagrants from Italy flooded the land of the Apache, Mohawk and Comanche. Today they form a significant group under the title of Italiam Americans. So the entire notion of "migrants" or migration is well known in Italy.

The second point to note is that Italy is just minor bit player in the larger western architecture led by USA. The Western world for good or bad needs the Middle East and North Africa. This is fact. Long before ME began hitting the shores of Europe it was Europe unloading on the shores of North Africa and in addition resolving European problems like failure to live in peace with it's Jewish cirizens as evidenced in the mass cull of 1939-45. Thence Europe exported it's problem simply by shifting significant numbers of European Jewry to ME in Palestine thereby seamlessly move a European problem to a Middle Eastern problem which burns to this day.

It is remarkable in that much of the language @Markus is using was seen in 1940s Europe only then it was directed at the Jews. The irony being @Solomon2 (who I assume to be Jew) is today actively supporting something that burnt his people only two generations back in same Germany. The victim has become the abuser.

Going back to the Western order the fact is ME and North Africa are critical parts of it's framework. Economic and military as evidenced by US military bases all over ME. Vacate this region to China and see the threat to the soft underbelly of Europe. Ital in particular and we all know Italian reputation on the love front but rather infamous reputation on the war front when they surrendered at the first shot en masses. Maybe we might see a future invasion of Italy from Tunisia only this time under Chinese power. On that score let me tell you about a rather famous chap from my ancestral region. He served in what was the Frontier Regiment (now in Pakistan Army) and he and his mates. Yes Sepoy (trooper to you) Ali Haider who won Victoria Cross while kicking the Germans out of Italy while the Italians were wearing womens clothes and making pizzas. Oh and Frontier Regiment had hell of a time humping all the local donne bella. After all they had never tasted circumcised d*ck.

Source > Ali Haidar VC - victoriacross

BMEkoZFCQAAqnp_.jpg


Now let me teach you guy's of something big. Something big right now multiplying. A problem that when it hits Italy will make ME problem look like b'tch fight in pizza parlour. Deep in Sub Saharan Africa the Black population is increasing. Increasing at the faster than anywhere else in the world. This is going to be Ebola problem of epic proportions as Sub Saharan Africa populations heads to four times of Europe by 2050.

Source > Africa's population explosion will change humanity - Tech Insider
Source > How will a population boom change Africa? - BBC News



Africa-Europe1.gif


regional-population-projections-centered-legend.png


Now where do you think these billions will head to. The North (map below) Yes, you got it. They are going to head to the shores of Meditearnean. Then they are going to make landfall in Italia. The future of Italy will be waves of Africa. To use the words of Spike Lee Italia is gonna catch "jungle fever".


FjLeCeZ.png


Now the interesting thing about Italy is this wave of Africanization with be nothing new. It has happened in the past. I leave you guy's with Dennis Hopper at his best giving a history lesson to bunch of Italians on their bloodline. Go to 6:48 to get the full punch. So those beaches on Anzio that saw Sepoy Ali Haider hit in 1944 to help free the Italians from the Germans will see another kind of invasion that might have profound effect on Italy.



You can see this African connection in actors like American Italian John Turturro.

john-turturro-05.jpg
The boats could easily be stopped. Look at Australia if you want an example. The liberals running Europe just don't have the balls.
 
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This thread makes for amazing reading. There is utter lack of understanding how the world works. The days of living in your own little pond and living in splendid isolation are over. Go ask the Native American's how their sense of propriety and peace was frigged big time. It was not that the Native Americans flooded Europe. No. It was other way around. Europeans flooded the Americas. Dare I say millions of hungry, destitute, vagrants from Italy flooded the land of the Apache, Mohawk and Comanche. Today they form a significant group under the title of Italiam Americans. So the entire notion of "migrants" or migration is well known in Italy.

The second point to note is that Italy is just minor bit player in the larger western architecture led by USA. The Western world for good or bad needs the Middle East and North Africa. This is fact. Long before ME began hitting the shores of Europe it was Europe unloading on the shores of North Africa and in addition resolving European problems like failure to live in peace with it's own Jewish citizens as evidenced in the mass cull of 1939-45. Thence Europe exported it's problem simply by shifting significant numbers of European Jewry to ME in Palestine thereby seamlessly moved a European problem to a Middle Eastern problem which burns to this day.

It is remarkable in that much of the language @Markus is using was seen in 1940s Europe only then it was directed at the Jews. The irony being @Solomon2 (who I assume to be Jew) is today actively supporting something that burnt his people only two generations back in same Germany. The victim has become the abuser.

Going back to the Western order the fact is ME and North Africa are critical parts of it's framework. Economic and military as evidenced by US military bases all over ME. Vacate this region to China and see the threat to the soft underbelly of Europe. Italy in particular and we all know Italian reputation on the love front but rather infamous reputation on the war front when they surrendered at the first shot en masses. Maybe we might see a future invasion of Italy from Tunisia only this time under Chinese power.

On that score let me tell you about a rather famous chap from my ancestral region. He served in what was the Frontier Regiment (now in Pakistan Army) and him and his mates had lot of fun in Italy and it was not only killing Germans. Yes Sepoy (trooper to you) Ali Haider won Victoria Cross while kicking the Germans out of Italy when the Italians were wearing womens clothes and making pizzas. Oh and Frontier Regiment had hell of a time humping all the local donne bella. After all they had never tasted circumcised d*ck.

Source > Ali Haidar VC - victoriacross

BMEkoZFCQAAqnp_.jpg


Now let me teach you guy's of something big. Something real big right now multiplying. A problem that when it hits Italy will make ME problem look like b'tch fight in pizza parlour. Deep in Sub Saharan Africa the Black population is increasing. Increasing at faster than anywhere else in the world. This is going to be Ebola problem of epic proportions as Sub Saharan Africa populations heads to four times more than Europe by 2050.

Source > Africa's population explosion will change humanity - Tech Insider
Source > How will a population boom change Africa? - BBC News



Africa-Europe1.gif


regional-population-projections-centered-legend.png


Now where do you think these billions will head to. As they get hungry? The North (map below) Yes, you got it. They are going to head to the shores of Meditearnean. Then they are going to make landfall in Italia. The future of Italy will be waves of Africa. To use the words of Spike Lee Italia is gonna catch "jungle fever".


FjLeCeZ.png


Now the interesting thing about Italy is this wave of Africanization with be nothing new. It has happened in the past. I leave you guy's with Dennis Hopper at his best giving a history lesson to bunch of Italians on their bloodline. Go to 6:48 to get the full punch. So those beaches on Anzio that saw Sepoy Ali Haider hit in 1944 to help free the Italians from the Germans will see another kind of invasion that might have profound effect on Italy.



You can see this African connection in actors like American Italian John Turturro.

john-turturro-05.jpg
Superb post sir.
 
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The boats could easily be stopped. Look at Australia if you want an example. The liberals running Europe just don't have the balls.

Steve in theory anything can be done. There are at least seven countries in the world with Nukes these days. They could all of sudden start lobbing them at each other. What is possible in theory is pretty useless unless it is put into practice. As you said liberals are a reality of a civilization called "Western". In fact what do you think makes Western civilization differant from say ME?

Hell you are aware that Christianity is extranous to Europe. It came from ME. Christianity is a Semitic religion just like Islam. Indeed the word bible is derived from Semite root for papyrus scroll. Indeed even the Roman alphabet has Phoenecian orgins from ME in present day Lebanon.

What defines and separates Western civilization above the rants you get from ME is liberal democracy and all that it conveys. Take away liberalism from Western civilization and you have what is just another rant version of what they have in ME. That I am afraid is the problem and non too easy to address.

And making tough decisions requires a certain type of patriarchal society where men are men. I am afraid men in Europe have been emasculated. Feminism has all but destroyed man's vigour. Left and feminism are in cahoots. This fact is not going to be changed and I don't think anybody is able to change back to 19th Century Europe. This is reality. That is why the Islamists are so keen in not letting go of their monopoly. They know they will be relegated to the new world order. Thus what @Markus says I see inconsistancy and contradictions. His Europe is feminism, gay rights and others aspects of liberalism. He decries the Islamists but at the same time complains about aspect of Westernism that separates it from Islamists.

Ps. I am against members being banned even if they hold uncomfortable views. Their views are a reality and as such should have right to express them. Of course if members use vulgar language or reasoned debate is not possible then ban people by all means. It is better to counter those views with logical discourse.
 
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Steve in theory anything can be done. There are at least seven countries with Nukes these days. They could all of sudden start lobbing them at each other. What is is practical in theory is pretty useless unless it is put into practice. As you said liberals are a reality of a civilization called "Western". In fact what do you think makes Western civilization differant from say ME?

Hell you are aware that Christianity is extranous to Europe. It came from ME. Christianity is a Semitic religion just like Islam. Indeed the word bible is derived from Semite root for papyrus scroll. Indeed even the Roman alphabet has Phoenecian orgins from ME in present day Lebanon.

What defines and separates Western civilization above the rants you get from ME is liberal democracy and all that it conveys. Take away liberalism from Western civilization and you have what is just another rant version of what they have in ME. That I am afraid is the problem and non too easy to address.
Liberalism is a very new thing. Most people in Europe are not liberals. Liberals just happen to dominate everything.
 
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What do you suggest for boarder protection? We don´t want them in europe. You want send ships to greece and take them back to turkey where tehy came from?


I presume that is you in your avatar @MarkusS , make no mistake about it sir YOU ARE NO EUROPEAN.
 
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This thread makes for amazing reading. There is utter lack of understanding how the world works. The days of living in your own little pond and living in splendid isolation are over. Go ask the Native American's how their sense of propriety and peace was frigged big time. It was not that the Native Americans flooded Europe. No. It was other way around. Europeans flooded the Americas. Dare I say millions of hungry, destitute, vagrants from Italy flooded the land of the Apache, Mohawk and Comanche. Today they form a significant group under the title of Italiam Americans. So the entire notion of "migrants" or migration is well known in Italy.

The second point to note is that Italy is just minor bit player in the larger western architecture led by USA. The Western world for good or bad needs the Middle East and North Africa. This is fact. Long before ME began hitting the shores of Europe it was Europe unloading on the shores of North Africa and in addition resolving European problems like failure to live in peace with it's own Jewish citizens as evidenced in the mass cull of 1939-45. Thence Europe exported it's problem simply by shifting significant numbers of European Jewry to ME in Palestine thereby seamlessly moved a European problem to a Middle Eastern problem which burns to this day.

It is remarkable in that much of the language @Markus is using was seen in 1940s Europe only then it was directed at the Jews. The irony being @Solomon2 (who I assume to be Jew) is today actively supporting something that burnt his people only two generations back in same Germany. The victim has become the abuser.

Going back to the Western order the fact is ME and North Africa are critical parts of it's framework. Economic and military as evidenced by US military bases all over ME. Vacate this region to China and see the threat to the soft underbelly of Europe. Italy in particular and we all know Italian reputation on the love front but rather infamous reputation on the war front when they surrendered at the first shot en masses. Maybe we might see a future invasion of Italy from Tunisia only this time under Chinese power.

On that score let me tell you about a rather famous chap from my ancestral region. He served in what was the Frontier Regiment (now in Pakistan Army) and him and his mates had lot of fun in Italy and it was not only killing Germans. Yes Sepoy (trooper to you) Ali Haider won Victoria Cross while kicking the Germans out of Italy when the Italians were wearing womens clothes and making pizzas. Oh and Frontier Regiment had hell of a time humping all the local donne bella. After all they had never tasted circumcised d*ck.

Source > Ali Haidar VC - victoriacross

BMEkoZFCQAAqnp_.jpg


Now let me teach you guy's of something big. Something real big right now multiplying. A problem that when it hits Italy will make ME problem look like b'tch fight in pizza parlour. Deep in Sub Saharan Africa the Black population is increasing. Increasing at faster than anywhere else in the world. This is going to be Ebola problem of epic proportions as Sub Saharan Africa populations heads to four times more than Europe by 2050.

Source > Africa's population explosion will change humanity - Tech Insider
Source > How will a population boom change Africa? - BBC News



Africa-Europe1.gif


regional-population-projections-centered-legend.png


Now where do you think these billions will head to. As they get hungry? The North (map below) Yes, you got it. They are going to head to the shores of Meditearnean. Then they are going to make landfall in Italia. The future of Italy will be waves of Africa. To use the words of Spike Lee Italia is gonna catch "jungle fever".


FjLeCeZ.png


Now the interesting thing about Italy is this wave of Africanization with be nothing new. It has happened in the past. I leave you guy's with Dennis Hopper at his best giving a history lesson to bunch of Italians on their bloodline. Go to 6:48 to get the full punch. So those beaches on Anzio that saw Sepoy Ali Haider hit in 1944 to help free the Italians from the Germans will see another kind of invasion that might have profound effect on Italy.



You can see this African connection in actors like American Italian John Turturro.

john-turturro-05.jpg
Loved your post :tup:except that "kicking the Germans" part :/
 
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Loved your post :tup:except that "kicking the Germans" part :/

Well it was war and what do fighting men do in war? Of course the Italians are excused of this manly pastime. To be fair the Germans fought like men. No doubt about that.

Btw in my opinion low down people when losing turn on their leaders. Notice the Germans like noble people they are kept fighting until Hitler killed himself. The Italians turned like snakes on their "Duce" when they began to lose and hanged the bastard. Is it just me that sees reflections here of Italy's neighbour Libya and how they butchered Gaddafi?

Below. Mussolini and his Mistress hung by their own countrymen as a offering of peace to the Allies. Go figure.

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make no mistake about it

No. He is Seifeddine Rezgui the Tunisian terrorist's brother. Below.

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