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The last time China got into a fight with Vietnam,it was a Disaster

Deng was lapdog of US in cold war. Sun Tzu's Art Of War didn't helped you were enslaving by Mongolian and Manchurian.
Deng's purpose is to improve China national strength, and he did. That's why he was a great China leader for Chinese, did very well !

Lapdog of U.S ? It's nothing disgrace !
In whole history, the development of any nation will never be smooth. Only the smart can survive, only the intelligent has the chance to build a new Big Empire. Decade time is short for China development, Chinese go through the bad time and today she is a strong country.

Did China follow U.S orders ? Sino-Vietnam War is for our interest, not American. Specially VN‘s wet dream of Indochina Federal, How dare u plan to break regional stability !

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Deng's purpose is to improve China national strength, and he did. That's why he was a great China leader for Chinese, did very well !

Lapdog of U.S ? It's nothing disgrace !
In whole history, the development of any nation will never be smooth. Only the smart can survive, only the intelligent has the chance to build a new Big Empire. Decade time is short for China development, Chinese go through the bad time and today she is a strong country.

Did China follow U.S orders ? Sino-Vietnam War is for our interest, not American. Specially VN‘s wet dream of Indochina Federal, How dare u plan to break regional stability !

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Chinese can not deny the truth that Deng begged USA permit China to attack Vietnam 1979. Deng would like to satisfy new master of China, to do revenge on Vietnam on behave of US in cold war.

Sino - Vietnam war is served to interest of USA in cold war. Great leader of China Deng Xiaoping does it, he is small person with small mentality (xiao ren in Chinese ).
 
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Wrong, shithead. Both parties cooperated when you backstabbed China and sided with your masters in Russia. China used America against the Russians so you could get the beating you deserved.
 
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Wrong, shithead. Both parties cooperated when you backstabbed China and sided with your masters in Russia. China used America against the Russians so you could get the beating you deserved.

China backed Khmer Rouge attacked Vietnam. China is also backstabed Vietnam in Vietnam war and robbed Islands of Vietnam 1974.

China is slave of US in this time. China to attack Russia 1969 as unpaid clown of US.
 
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Wrong, America was at China's mercy against Russia. The Khmer Rouge wouldn't have attacked you shits if you didn't steal land from them in the past.
 
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Wrong, America was at China's mercy against Russia. The Khmer Rouge wouldn't have attacked you shits if you didn't steal land from them in the past.

Viet and Khmer people shared border peacefully. we lost more land to Cambodia in time France colonial invaded in to Indo chine peninsula and made a new border.

Without China, Khmer Rouge could not attack on us. idiot Polpot trusted on his master China when he provacated us.
 
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cnleio : China continue to get helicopters from Russia,
 
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Before Sino-Vietnam conflict 1979, 1975-1978, China give support to Khmer Rouge to kill their own people, and made several invasions to Vietnam lands, created massacres with thousand Vietnamese innocent people killed, ,million of Cambodian killed by Khmer Rouge under China advising ...

China makes a plan of attack Vietnam from both direction, by taking 3 years of building airbases for Chinese bombers in Cambodia by Chinese personnel and equipments.

China mobilized their army into Vietnam borders from October 1978, but wait for US response, before launching the attack in Feb, 1979. They worried about the Soviet intervene if they solely attack Vietnam.

China begin planning to attack Vietnam from October 1978.

Vietnam only start the hunting of Khmer Rouge in Cambodia from 25 Dec 1978 - 7 Jan 1979.
Vietnam Slaughtering Khmer Rouge regime, leave democracy goverment in Cambodia after few weeks.

Vietnam left nowaday peace and population in Cambodia,

China left massacres and destruction of infrastructure when they left Vietnam.
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Searching for China plan for the war, then you know that China plan it, even before Vietnam invasion to Cambodia.
they said nothing at all about crossborder raids of Khmer Rouge to Vietnam as that planned by themselves
I don't have opinion on Khmer Rouge, they are cruel, but I have some questions:
1. China give support Khmer Rouge, but from these, you mean we support it kill their own people and invasions to Vietnams?
At right time, ideology or something influence your foreign policy, Khmer Rouge was communist, not mean we support their behavior.
2. Why sino-Viet friendship will become bad? all Chinese fault? I can't understand, before you vietnam invaded Cambodia, why we need attack you? what China want get from you vietnam?
3. Because the friendship between Vietnam and China became bad, but China still give support to Cambodia, so you think we were preparing for the attack on Vietnam? it is a ridiculous.
4. The vietnam-Cambodia conflict start from 1975, you start massive invasion to Cambodia from 1978, if you just want overturn Khmer Rouge regime, why you stay there for about 12 years? and you also crossed Cambodia-Thailand border, fight Thailand? Why, what do you want from Thailand?
5. You leave democracy government in Cambodia? very ridiculous, you are autarchy country, how can you leave a democracy government in other country? it just can say that government is not cruel like Khmer Rogue, Ok?
6. We massacre your vietnamese? armed citizen who attack my soldiers or your soldiers? it is war, why can't kill your soldiers or citizen, give me the proof that PLA massacre innocent unarmed citizen? How many, if just a few, don't show it, it is war, as to destruction of infrastructure, why can't? in Vietnam war, how much materials and weapon we gave to you? now the war happend between you and me, we just destroy the thing we gave to you, and get the thing we donate to you back.

What's the real intesion of the war invading Cambodia, and trying to control Lao? do you really know or show your real intesion? You just make excuse to pass the buck, you are not clean.
 
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cnleio : We thank to China's support to defeat our invaders, but to be frank, if Chinese won't help many things would be very different, not sure better or worse, ... but there's many ways, not only one for a small country to liberate themselves.

Harry Truman denied the proposal of Ho Chi Minh to cooperate because the relationship between Vietnam and communism ( ie. CPC, Soviet Union ), that's check point, ... if they are ok to cooperate, then how ?

There's not French return late in 1945, no Dien Bien Phu 1954, no Vietnam War 1954-1975. And Vietnam must be stronger than S. Korea since 1950.

Believe me, it won't matter a lot. Look at us. Our second president, Soeharto was close to US, but what did we get? None. We gave them much-much more than we get from them. The example is Freeport. A big gold mine in Papua. They did even dictate us like we are their underling. And when we didn't obey, we lost many thing. Including East TImor (now Timor Leste).

Now look at Egypt. Their previous President (before Mursi), Mubarak was so close to US. But at the end, what happen to him?

Basically, it will be the same. It is better if you stand on your own feet rather than depend too much to big powers.
 
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We could avoid the longest, hardest wartime in modern history.
 
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Chinese can not deny the truth that Deng begged USA permit China to attack Vietnam 1979. Deng would like to satisfy new master of China, to do revenge on Vietnam on behave of US in cold war.

Sino - Vietnam war is served to interest of USA in cold war. Great leader of China Deng Xiaoping does it, he is small person with small mentality (xiao ren in Chinese ).
Deng is China leader, not Vietnam. What he did is for China, it doesnt matter how ur guys hate him after his China our nation developed more and more better and more stronger.

That is China need ,Chinese no any necessary to consider ur feelings coz our interest is completely different.

cnleio : China continue to get helicopters from Russia,

1980s China bought 24x American "Black Hawk" helos and many West weapons & technology.

After 1991 China was 1st foreign customer for Russia Su27, 1st customer for Su30mkk and Su30mk2, 1st foreign customer for Kilo sub, 1st Russian DDGs customer, 1st foreign customer for S-300 missile. And still buying many helos from Russia.

This called mature diplomacy, only interests exchange between nations. And there is only one best friend for whole world nations is the $¥.
 
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That's really surprising. The whole world has ratified the UNCLOS Treaty except China because it claims most of the South Chine Sea as its territory based on some ancient maps!!

That means they are way out of step with the world.

China does not have any ancient maps which confirm SCS belong to them.

China has only map that used to claim SCS, which is "nine dash line" map drawn by Chiang Kai Shek in 1947.

In contrast, Vietnam has a lot of ancient maps and ancient documents confirm Paracels and Spratlys belong to Vietnam.

What the chinese have now it is, they have more warships, submarines, fighters ... simple as that.
 
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Deng is China leader, not Vietnam. What he did is for China, it doesnt matter how ur guys hate him after his China our nation developed more and more better and more stronger.

That is China need ,Chinese no any necessary to consider ur feelings coz our interest is completely different.



1980s China bought 24x American "Black Hawk" helos and many West weapons & technology.

After 1991 China was 1st foreign customer for Russia Su27, 1st customer for Su30mkk and Su30mk2, 1st foreign customer for Kilo sub, 1st Russian DDGs customer, 1st foreign customer for S-300 missile. And still buying many helos from Russia.

This called mature diplomacy, only interests exchange between nations. And there is only one best friend for whole world nations is the $¥.

China needed to change to US side in cold war. Now China change to Russian side, and so you will chang and change and so on.

China is big ball.
 
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