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The Kurdish woman building a feminist democracy and fighting Isis at the same time
The leader of the most revolutionary women’s rights movement in the world talks to The Independent about how her ideals have found a home in the middle of the war on Isis
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...time-syria-kurdistan-rojava-new-a7487151.html

Asya Abdullah is not a polished politician. She speaks slowly and deliberately in Kurmanji in a tone which suggests she has had to practise her material many times.

But despite the reserved and careful exterior, Abdullah is one of the most radical and effective revolutionaries in the world today.

In the chaos of Syria’s civil war, the country’s Kurdish population has seized the chance to wrest their own destiny from the hands of others.

Long marginalised by the Baathist regime in Damascus, after repelling government forces in 2012 Syria’s Kurds have managed to carve out a relatively peaceful and stable new societal order based in Rojava in the north, flourishing despite the presence of enemies such as Isis on all sides.

Abdullah has been a driving force in the battle for Kurdish freedom - but as the female co-chair of the Syrian Democratic Union Party, elected alongside male representative Salih Muslim in 2010, it is her particular role to safeguard women’s liberation.

“The hallmark of a free and democratic life is a free woman,” she said in her keynote speech at the Rojava New World Embassy in Oslo at the end of November.

“Isis would like to reduce women to slaves and body parts. We show them they’re wrong. We can do anything.”

The Rojava experiment is unlike any other. Coalitions between the local Assyrian, Arab and Kurdish populations have created a small society by and large run on the principles of a communal economy, harmony with the environment, and self governance.

It is also hard to conceive just how radically the Kurdish administration has overturned the existing state structures in Syria by putting women’s emancipation at the forefront of the the sociopolitical agenda.

Women in Rojava have equal status in property law, forced and underage marriage has been banned, quotas for women and ethnic groups ensure representation at all levels of politics - and of course, the armed women’s fighting units, known as the YPJ, have played a central role in the liberation of towns such as Kobani and Manbij.

What the Kurds broadly want, despite some infighting and extreme pushback from neighbouring Turkey, is ‘stateless democracy’ - the idea that in a federalised Syria, their autonomy can be maintained on a local level, with a focus on ‘bottom up’ power and little to no interference from the state.

“This is the third way,” Abdullah told The Independent on the sidelines of the New World Embassy sessions. “We have been so busy working and sending representatives to spread the word around the world this is the first time many in the administration have been in the same room in years.”

The delegates were brought together by Dutch artist Jonas Staal as part of his ‘New World Summit’ project, a series designed to create “spaces of assembly that represent a new world and a new democratic ideal in the making.”

Blacklisted or otherwise marginalised independence movements, such as those in Rojava, Somaliland, Catalonia and the Azawad movement in Mali, have been invited to New World Summits to explore what ‘stateless democracy’ means in theory and practice.

Over the course of a weekend around 1,000 observers, democracy activists, politicians and journalists descended on Oslo’s City Hall, home of the Nobel Peace Prize, to see Staal’s temporary Rojava embassy - a circular construction designed to reflect the openness and dynamism of the new world the Kurds are seeking to create.

The prevailing consensus on the political left is that the current crises in global democracy - the EU’s inability to combat the refugee crisis, the rise of right wing populism across Europe and the US - show that our post World War II models are failing, Staal says. His work is designed to open up the idea other democratic political models are possible.

“Contemporary parliamentary democracy is in itself not much more than a century old. In that sense, I don’t trust the stability of anything. Our political, economic and environmental crises have brought us to a crossroads,” he said.

“So, we have to ask ourselves: what kind of politics do we truly desire? Defending what we have is no longer enough, we must push forward.”

The war on terror, Staal and his colleagues argue, has emerged as the greatest threat to democracy in the 21st century. “Rojava is democracy with a vengeance,” he said. “The region, historically, has had types of government and statehood thrust upon it with little say in how to govern themselves. Now it is the Kurds and their allies that tell us what a genuine democracy actually looks like.”

It seems unthinkable - “Until you remember that the modern European continent - from the French to the Russian revolution - also emerged out of a revolutionary situation,” he added.

In providing an effective ground force against Isis, the Kurds have completely changed the course of Syria’s war, and their role in the country’s future, whether embattled President Bashar al-Assad stays or goes, is crucial.

Despite this, the Rojava administration has been shut out of all peace talks at the request of Sunni rebel groups. The experiment also faces renewed hostility from Turkey - recently the YPG said a military base near Kobani had been targeted by Turkish artillery fire - and can no longer necessarily count on support from the US now that the incoming Trump administration has signalled it wants to work with Assad to defeat Isis.

Abdullah is stoic, however, about the Rojava experiment’s future.

“Our first responsibility is to protect our sisters, to protect all women. That’s why our revolution is working, why Arab women and Yazidi women join when they see us. You can’t have real change without putting women at the centre,” she said.

Kurdish women, of course, literally fight for their rights - they take on Assad’s army and allied militias, Turkish-backed forces, and Isis. The creation of the YPJ, or women’s fighting units, is a fascinating development in a region where women’s rights are often repressed.

“People think this movement sprang up out of nowhere,” said Abdullah’s colleague Sinem Mohammed, who represents the party’s interests in Europe. “But we’ve been working towards this for the last twenty years. For some of us, all our lives.”

The formation of the YPJ has led to a flurry of sensationalist, sexist media coverage on ‘badass’ women who fight Isis: The death of one 22-year-old fighter in August was reported as the demise of the ‘Kurdish Angelina Jolie’ because of her looks.

Several of Asia Ramazan Antar’s fellow soldiers died in the same car bomb near Manbij but their deaths were not reported in English language media, many Kurdish sources were quick to notice.

“This narrative, it wasn’t our idea. I wish we had better control of it,” Abdullah muses. “They say it’s propaganda, that we should merge the women’s units with the men’s units. But they exist as separate for a reason. We have the YPJ because women need their own autonomy, to prove they can do things themselves.”

Such symbolism is important to the fledgling state. The flags of dozens of fighting units - mostly made up of the colours yellow, green and red, with variations on stars, constellations and laurel leaves - made up the walls of the temporary embassy in Oslo, and will be incorporated into the real building when it is inaugurated in the spring.

There is evidence that the Kurds' visionary and bold ideals are taking root elsewhere. In the past few months, hundreds of Yazidi and Arab women, freed from Isis by Kurdish women, have taken up arms to defend themselves in recent months with training from the YPJ.

“I am proud to join [the fight], especially after suffering a lot of suppression in my private life. Being a part of those forces would give me the opportunity to protect other women in my society and fight for their rights,” one new Arab recruit in Manbij said.

The future for Abdullah’s female fighting units is uncertain, though. At the New World Summit the official party line was one of buoyant optimism that when - not if - Assad regains control of the country, in recognition of their track record of success against Isis and autonomous de facto ‘state’, in a federal Syria, they will be left to their own devices.

There is some evidence that despite protesting their status as ‘second class citizens’ under successive Damascene governments, the Kurds are not immune to realpolitiking if needs be: YPG fighters in Aleppo worked alongside government troops and Shia militias to bring down the city in recent months.

As is ever the case in Syria’s unpredictable and bloody civil war, it is unlikely things will play out in the Rojava administration's favour as much as they would like. Turkey is an ever-expanding threat to their new-found sovereignty and relations between Turkish President Recep Erdogan and the Syrian government, as well as Russian leader Vladimir Putin, are thawing, despite the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey two weeks ago.

If Rojava is to survive, awareness of what they are trying to achieve is key, Abdullah notes. But even more pressingly, she says, more women around the world need to become aware of their own fight.

In a political climate where 53 per cent of American white women chose to vote for Donald Trump - a man with double digit sexual assault accusations to his name - over a real live female candidate, there is sad evidence she is right.

“It’s all step by step. But we have no other choice. You say, ‘Why build when the foundations are unstable?’, but that is fatalistic. We need to build quality of life and security wherever we can.

“My message is that individual women around the world need to start paying attention to their own rights. That is what I ask. To understand yourself and the connection our movement has to women’s struggles all over the world... That’s what we fight for.”

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I did not read the post but i can predict it is another typical western style propaganda.

Kurds in the region, at least those of Turkey are the most devoted, fundemantalist, radical muslims unlike what they are portrayed by the western media.

Some cherry picked pictures of a few so-called "kurdish female fighters" with heavy make up do not represent the general shown below.

I have suspicion about OP

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I did not read the post but i can predict it is another typical western style propaganda.

Kurds in the region, at least those of Turkey are the most devoted, fundemantalist, radical muslims unlike what they are portrayed by the western media.

Some cherry picked pictures of a few so-called "kurdish female fighters" with heavy make up do not represent the general shown below.

I have suspicion about OP

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The Kurds in Syria are mostly secular.

In Iraq, half of them are tribal- and Islamic-oriented.

It depends on which country you're referring to.

There's no question that the Syrian Kurds are predominantly secular-minded, otherwise they would've never accepted YPG rule.
 
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The Kurds in Syria are mostly secular.

In Iraq, half of them are tribal- and Islamic-oriented.

It depends on which country you're referring to.

There's no question that the Syrian Kurds are predominantly secular-minded, otherwise they would've never accepted YPG rule.
A muslim "kuwaiti girl" travelling so much to know all about the religious behaviours of kurds?

Interesting...
 
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Hahahaaa lets see how long this lasts. (It won't be very long)
 
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A muslim "kuwaiti girl" travelling so much to know all about the religious behaviours of kurds?

Interesting...
Agnostic. ^_^

I've never been to Kurdistan, but I hope to visit it someday. :-)
 
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Kurds and feminists? As far as I am aware of Kurds are the main proponents and practitioners of honor killings in not only Turkey but also Syria and Iraq. Female genital mutilation is also widespread.
Kurds are also one of the most tribal people in the region by far.

So nationalist/socialist/communist inspired armed groups/terrorist groups are now supposed to show what exactly?

I did not read the post but i can predict it is another typical western style propaganda.

Kurds in the region, at least those of Turkey are the most devoted, fundemantalist, radical muslims unlike what they are portrayed by the western media.

Some cherry picked pictures of a few so-called "kurdish female fighters" with heavy make up do not represent the general shown below.

I have suspicion about OP

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In Iraq Kurdish Islamists have founded several Islamic parties as well. Kurds never stroke me as "liberal" or as being "feminists" and none of the Kurds that I have meet in person have proved me otherwise.

But in the West, when they see some women that do not wear headscarfs (look at national Arab movements from Palestine to Western Sahara who did that as far back as the 1930's), they are automatically thought of as I do not know what.

BTW the same YPJ/YPG has been accused of ethnic cleansing and crimes against Arabs, Assyrians and Turkmens living in Northern Syria/borderlands of Turkey. Hardly progressing.

I am sure that there are better examples of progressive Kurds. Some of them are based in the West for instance.

Barzani (basically ruling a tribal thiefdom) cannot be considered progressive either. Certainly not some grand example that the region should look to emulate. In fact you have Tunisia for that.

So women fighters not wearing headscarf but who are part of armed gangs who are accused of war crimes, is not something that I am going to praise at least. Nor do I associate this with feminisms or women rights.

Saudi Arabian women fight for such rights in a much more respectable fashion.
 
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Now after we are almost done from the US creation of tanks & bombings-like democracy in Iraq, we are ready to observe another US creation of the atheist VBIED-feminist democracy state of Kurdistan.

 
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Kurds and feminists? As far as I am aware of Kurds are the main proponents and practitioners of honor killings in not only Turkey but also Syria and Iraq. Female genital mutilation is also widespread.
Kurds are also one of the most tribal people in the region by far.
All the more reason for the YPG to stick around and do everything it can to eliminate tribalism from north Syrian society.

Tribalism is the very reason why Iraqi Kurdistan is filled with corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. That entire region is ruled and dominated by the Barzani clan in almost every aspect of day-to-day life.

The YPG's attempt to eliminate tribalism and modernize and liberalize society in northern Syria should be encouraged. And I hope it eventually gets replicated in other parts of the Middle East as well, many of which are still incredibly backward due to tribalism.

Hopefully a similar movement takes over Iraqi Kurdistan and puts an end to tribalism in that region once and for all.

BTW the same YPJ/YPG has been accused of ethnic cleansing and crimes against Arabs, Assyrians and Turkmens living in Northern Syria/borderlands of Turkey. Hardly progressing.
Yeah that probably explains why hundreds of Arab refugees from al-Bab and other settlements in the Azaz-Jarabulus corridor have fled to YPG-held Manbij and Afrin over the last few weeks and months.

I guess that's also why Arabic is an official language in Rojava, and why the ancient Syriac language was revived and is currently being taught in schools all across northern Syria.

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The irony is that the Syrian Kurds, unlike Barzani's KRG, do not want to secede from their country. They want to remain an integral part of a federalized and secular Syria.
 
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All the more reason for the YPG to stick around and do everything it can to eliminate tribalism from north Syrian society.

Tribalism is the very reason why Iraqi Kurdistan is filled with corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. That entire region is ruled and dominated by the Barzani clan in almost every aspect of day-to-day life.

The YPG's attempt to eliminate tribalism and modernize and liberalize society in northern Syria should be encouraged. And I hope it eventually gets replicated in other parts of the Middle East as well, many of which are still incredibly backward due to tribalism.

Hopefully a similar movement takes over Iraqi Kurdistan and puts an end to tribalism in that region once and for all.


Yeah that probably explains why hundreds of Arab refugees from al-Bab and other settlements in the Azaz-Jarabulus corridor have fled to YPG-held Manbij and Afrin over the last few weeks and months.

I guess that's also why Arabic is an official language in Rojava, and why the ancient Syriac language was revived and is currently being taught in schools all across northern Syria.

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The irony is that the Syrian Kurds, unlike Barzani's KRG, do not want to secede from their country. They want to remain an integral part of a federalized and secular Syria.

The Kurdish parts of Syria are tiny and sparsely populated. Their political groups do not pose any challenge to Kurdish parties/organizations in neighboring Turkey and Iraq such as PKK, PKU and KDP. I am sure you know the current fight/crisis between Kurdish groups based in Turkey, Syria and Iraq about disputed land in that region of the MENA.

Not to say that Kurds have never been united even once in history. Hence them being (apparently) the largest stateless people. Unless you consider Punjabis to belong to that group of people due to no "Punjabistan" existing.

I am not against women achieving the rights they deserve or for progress on all fronts in the region but I do not think that those groups are good examples of this. There are many others and better ones just among Kurds. For instance you have Kurdish activists in the West who speak out against honor killings, female genital mutilation. That can easily be respected and admired by the world.

I am just writing what internationally recognized organizations have written such as Human Rights Watch and others.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ed-of-ethnic-cleansing-and-killing-opponents/

Amensty International too.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ru/...roups-accused-kurds-rojava-of-war-crimes.html

Also just because there are Kurds who do that it does not mean that they are all guilty of such crimes. Never stated that. Similar just because local Arabs and Turkmen joined ISIS in Mosul and Ninawa it does not mean that all Arabs and Turkmens joined ISIS and it does not give Peshmerga any rights to "ethnically cleanse" (forcefully remove and demolish and sometimes even kill) Arab, Turkmen and Assyrian villages and villagers.

Let's not forget that many Kurdish tribes took part in the Assyrian and Armenian genocide apparently.

Eh, that's because Arabs and Assyrians have lived longer in Northern Syria than Kurds have and because there are such communities there which are quite significant in terms of numbers. It would be strange if that was not the case and I see nothing praiseworthy about it. It is common logic if you ask me. Similar to how Kurdish is a official language of Iraq. YPG could not rule anything if they discriminated against a large percentage of the population (Arabs, Assyrians and Turkmens) in the area that they claim to rule.

And no, I am not "Virtuoso" whoever that person is. I am "Arabian Stallion" who got access to an old user, lol. People here know who I am. Never hidden that, lol.
 
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Most of times, that is what the media controlled by politicians want people to believe. it is called "propaganda" just like what you are doing.. .

talking to a terrorist lover and supporter does not make any sense.. for those the best answer comes out from the barrel of a gun..
 
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Eh, that's because Arabs and Assyrians have lived longer in Northern Syria than Kurds have and because there are such communities there which are quite significant in terms of numbers. It would be strange if that was not the case and I see nothing praiseworthy about it. It is common logic if you ask me. Similar to how Kurdish is a official language of Iraq. YPG could not rule anything if they discriminated against a large percentage of the population (Arabs, Assyrians and Turkmens) in the area that they claim to rule.
The Syriac language was deliberately repressed by the Syrian government over the last 50 years.

For the first time in modern history, the Syriac language has been revived and given official recognition by the government of Rojava. This is a huge achievement for the Assyrian Christian community. It's unprecedented.

This isn't something that the Kurds would do if they were interested in displacing the Assyrians and Arabs of the region.

And by the way, the Arabs and Assyrians have not lived longer than the Kurds in northern Syria. Again, you're mixing language with genealogy.

The Kurds are an Upper Mesopotamian people. Genetically speaking, their closest relatives are the Semitic Jews, even though the Kurds speak an Indo-European language. The ancestors of the Kurds spoke different languages over the course of thousands of years, but they're still the same people.

This is another reason why the Kurds respect the Syriac community. They do not see themselves as a different people. They see themselves as Mesopotamians.

This is why I always reiterate that language has nothing to do with genetics, genealogy or culture. So many peoples around the world have adopted and abandoned different languages throughout history, but their genealogies and cultures have remained the same.
 
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