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The Islamic World's Outrage Against India Won't Protect the Country's Muslims

Traitor like @Jf-17 block 3 will keep quiet on such matter for Indian muslim while keep barking about China uyghur.

India has a law and don't displaybyoir ignorance on CaA and nrc. It needs to be implemented so that our commitment towards Hindus and extended to other minorities in sub vontinent is fulfilled
India has law but selective implement. Having law and execute that law are 2 different things.
Talk and taking action are 2 different things.
 
Caste is a feature of Hinduism as supported by extensive DNA evidence.
Thats fun. I have yet to see a peer reviewed and proper caste based DNA genome database or research. Do you have one with you? If not, you are wrong about the above assertion. If you have one share it.

BTW, here is what a recent PEW poll discovered about Caste system in India.

0. Muslims adhare to caste system in India more stringently than Hindus. Eg, greater percentage of Muslims do not want their men and women to marry out of caste and do not have friends outside their caste. ie, in India, caste is NOT just a feature of Hinduism, its wide spread across all religions.
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

1. Indians in lower castes largely do not perceive widespread discrimination against their groups
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

2. Most Indians do not have recent experience with caste discrimination
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

3. Most Indians OK with Scheduled Caste neighbors
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

4. Indians generally do not have many close friends in different castes
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

5. Large shares of Indians say men, women should be stopped from marrying outside of their caste
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/


So leaving marriage and friendship (which are personal matters anyways), across different religions, most Indians (that includes Dalits, SC, ST and OBC) do not see much negative effect of caste system in India.

I guess its outsiders who are more concerned about Caste system in India than even Indian SC/ST/Dalits/OBCs.
 
India is a symbol of piracy and perversion.

Muslims all over the world detest India and Indians.
 
India is a symbol of piracy and perversion.

Muslims all over the world detest India and Indians.
And yet they are happy to do more and more business and diplomacy with India. :rofl: Even and especially compared to Pakistan -- an Islamic nation.
 
caste system is there in india. the society was organised in a particular way and it worked in ancient times. slowly it got degenerated and we have officially abolished it, however it will take a few decades to completely become casteless.
Caste is prevalent in all faiths here. it is the ignorance of the invaders to club everyone in india as hindus. even many so called hindus dont consider themselves hindus in india. They have several local regional gods and ancestors they pray to. There are so many cultures and each do what they have practised for centuries. So although caste system as we know today developed in india it is wrong to say its Hindu only.


True, but clearly the Muslims who consider themselves as descendents from centrL Asia consider the Indian concerts as lower in status. That is caste without a name. Yes there is no official caste system in Islam but not in Hinduism either.


True, but clearly the Muslims who consider themselves as descendents from centrL Asia consider the Indian concerts as lower in status. That is caste without a name. Yes there is no official caste system in Islam but not in Hinduism either.

Caste is not a feature of Hinduism because Hindus have accepted to abolishing caste by law and slowly there is erosion of practise. Its a feature of Indian society.
Islam should work on debugging terrorism possibly by amending some parts of its algorithm.

You cannot change a feature without changing the software (love jihad).

The bug can be easily fixed by hiring some cheap cyber coolies. But yanks keep putting roadblocks by protecting the Saudis and their Madrasa.

Nothing wrong with the algorithm because we Muslims invented algebra. Source of all algorithms!!!

@Bilal9
 
And yet they are happy to do more and more business and diplomacy with India. :rofl:

India cannot sustain the economic blackmail of the Muslim world and beyond. It is only a matter of time when Indian tendencies bring down their own pagan idols of trade and business.
 
India cannot sustain the economic blackmail of the Muslim world and beyond.
India blackmail Arabs? WTF??? Since when did India grew enough spine and balls to do that? India is a close partner of Saudi Arabia and UAE. Why will India blackmail them? Qatar is a little bit different story but the big two get along with India pretty well. Rather in important matters India usually tows their line.

It is only a matter of time when Indian tendencies bring down their own pagan idols of trade and business.
:rofl: You know, G7 have been kowtowing with US for far longer than with India. And no one is bigger pagan than satan worshiping CIA itself.
 
Thats fun. I have yet to see a peer reviewed and proper caste based DNA genome database or research. Do you have one with you? If not, you are wrong about the above assertion. If you have one share it.

BTW, here is what a recent PEW poll discovered about Caste system in India.

0. Muslims adhare to caste system in India more stringently than Hindus. Eg, greater percentage of Muslims do not want their men and women to marry out of caste and do not have friends outside their caste. ie, in India, caste is NOT just a feature of Hinduism, its wide spread across all religions.
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

1. Indians in lower castes largely do not perceive widespread discrimination against their groups
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

2. Most Indians do not have recent experience with caste discrimination
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

3. Most Indians OK with Scheduled Caste neighbors
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

4. Indians generally do not have many close friends in different castes
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/

5. Large shares of Indians say men, women should be stopped from marrying outside of their caste
Source : https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/attitudes-about-caste/


So leaving marriage and friendship (which are personal matters anyways), across different religions, most Indians (that includes Dalits, SC, ST and OBC) do not see much negative effect of caste system in India.

I guess its outsiders who are more concerned about Caste system in India than even Indian SC/ST/Dalits/OBCs.

Enjoy!


Btw, people tell pollsters all sorts of crap. Read about the “shy Trumpsters” and how it underestimated Trump’s support base in the minority communities.
 
India blackmail Arabs? WTF??? Since when did India grew enough spine and balls to do that? India is a close partner of Saudi Arabia and UAE. Why will India blackmail them? Qatar is a little bit different story but the big two get along with India pretty well.
Indian tactics of sabotage of the Arab world is apparent and deliberate. It is fueled largely by Indians hatred for Arab religion.

Countries like UAE and Saudi Arabia have lamented the Indian blackmail tactics.
You know, G7 have been kowtowing with US for far longer than with India. And no one is bigger pagan than satan worshiping CIA itself.

US will also suffer great pains due to Indian tendencies as the romance period between herself and India draws closer and closer to closure.
 
Nothing wrong with the algorithm because we Muslims invented algebra. Source of all algorithms!!!
Errr... just one issue. Its not "We Muslims". Its more like Persians with some parts from India (Brahmagupta), ancient Babylonian and Greeks and Ancient Egyptians. Omar Khayyam, Musa Al-Khwarizmi and Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi were main inventors and re-discoverers. Muslim is a very wide group of people.

Btw, people tell pollsters all sorts of crap. Read about the “shy Trumpsters” and how it underestimated Trump’s support base in the minority communities.
PEW are not pollsters. Neither their survey is opinion poll.
 
You explained the nuance of terrorism and Islam and I get that. I am sure Muhammad did not intend for Muslims to become terrorists . You have been handed 1 religion starting from something like 650ad.
You also need to understand nuances before you go about saying caste was created by Hinduism. There was no one religion called Hinduism. Its much more organic and there are several followers of hi duism and caste be ame a real problem only after the British came to india. Prior to that there was no real issue with caste and people did what they did for a living. You can throw mud but it just reflects even more.badly on you.


Tell me how it's selectively implemented

Yup, I like you admit that. It is more like low intellectuality and only surface understanding on Islam by those terrorist where their leaders dont even have Islamic scholar credential, more like common people with lot of cash like Osama bin Laden that some how think they need to make some change in the current world order.

AQ is basically the start of terrorism in Islam after what happen in very early Islam, the killing of one of the most respected individual in Islam who is Ali Bin Abi Thalib where all prophet Muhammad offspring we see Today comes from his family.

Those people cannot think in substance, like for instants they think our ideology Pancasila is Kafir just because the name is Pancasila, not something Arabic. Where if you see the substance, Pancasila and Islam is very coherent with the first principle is Tauhid ( Believe in one and only God ), state system is Democracy as it is inline with Qurani teaching in surah As-Syura (The consultation), while the rest of principle is stiil inline with Quran and Hadith (Kemanusian yg adil dan beradab (High moral people) and Persatuan Indonesia ( Unity of Indonesia-where it is inline with Madinah Charter created by prophet Muhammad ).

With current system, many Shariah Law also can be inserted into our positive law if the parliament is agree, in fact there are many Shariah Law become our positive law like in Economic law as we have Islamic Economy system along with Sukuk, Halal universal obligation, Shariah banks, and others.

That terrorist is just a dumb people who think Jihad is just physical war, even they dont know the real meaning of Jihad. Killing a civilian during a war is a big sin in Islam. Quran said that killing one human without justice is similar like killing whole humanity, even later Quran forbid the killing of combatant enemy during a war if they want to surrender.

Quran comes from God, we need both high intellectuality, patience to read the whole verses, and clean heart in order to understand it. And also other important things are God acceptance (Ridho) and direct direction through our heart (Hidayah) in order to understand Quran deeply. Muslim who understand Quran very well is called as Ulil Albab and they are among the minority who has been given Hikmah (wisdom knowledge ) by God directly beside prophets.

Many Terrorists just read individual text in one or two verses about war without reading whole surah and understanding the context of those verses they are reading. The Surah about war and its law can be read in Surah Al-Anfal in more detail.

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Talking about what you said earlier about so called caste system in Muslim South Indian, that is just a class between human and only become matter when it comes to find a husband or wife, not a problem in any social, politics, and economic activity. That class is very human and some within the society can break that culture easily if they want as what I have stated in my previous post.

While Caste system do exist in Hindu religion, you must to admit it mate. Indian element in current political system ( democracy ) that try to fight against it since it is contradictary with Democracy system that Indians adopt from Western civilization. Indonesia Hindu admit caste system is exist in their religious and social live

For Islam, democracy is inside our religion since the start with the surah As-Syura calling Muslim to solve their matter through consultation. The leadership in early Islam for example is more like Republic and the system is more like democracy where first Caliph for instants is picked after long debate between two big group Anshar and Quraish, there were voting underway as well according to famous Egyptian Historian, Muhammad Haiqal in his Muhammad Biography book ( 3 very thick books/Volume )
 
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Its much more organic and there are several followers of hi duism and caste be ame a real problem only after the British came to india. Prior to that there was no real issue with caste and people did what they did for a living. You can throw mud but it just reflects even more.badly on you.


Tell me how it's selectively implemented
BS
 

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