The Iran, Pakistan, China, Russia contiguous quad. Answer to America, Australia, Japan, India

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Just lock this thread.. It is nonsense and not factual. Just lock it..

Edit: No wonder it is posted by Austin Power smh..

 

[PeaceGen]

In my view, there's nothing wrong with the multipolar world view. There's also nothing wrong with forming alliances such as proposed here.

Where things get dicey however, is when these blocs start with manipulative, sneaky or offensive competition with each other. I've said it before, and i'll say it again : such endeavors are a *dangerous* waste of money and lives.

 

[Dalit]

I'm glad that my location is exactly the deciding factor in a geostrategic alliance spanning two continents in your opinion.

I bet Iranians aren't as smart as you.

Russians, dont even worry about them, they are the only ones ever to stand up to USA.

It is no coincidence that you reacted to this topic for reasons we all know. Doesn't make an iota of difference. Things that are decided are going to become a reality. Your cringeworthy meddling won't change that fact.

The Iranians chucked you out of Chabahar and joined hands with China. Iranians and Pakistanis are today more than ever poised to join hands. I don't know what world you are living in.

LOL you think that Pakistan, Iran, Russia and China are only joining hands to form anti-US bloc? That is exactly what is wrong with you. You just don't understand and barge in to pollute the discussion.

Just lock this thread.. It is nonsense and not factual. Just lock it..

Edit: No wonder it is posted by Austin Power smh..

Why? Is it not to your liking superior Arab? Why is it that the people who are opposing such a bloc are always the predicted ones?

 

[Rana4pak]

Turkey and Iran are foes, in Syria both backed different groups.

Eventually this block will form may be through cpec .Iranian oil go to China and Russia through this route.Iran and Turkey are not creating problems at their own boarders

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Why? Is it not to your liking superior Arab? Why is it that the people who are opposing such a bloc are always the predicted ones?

I Am not arab does Tuqhlaq sound arab to you.. Look This alliance is just fictional. No such alliance exists today. Pakistan has an alliance with China on regional level not worldwide level where as Russia seeks to join Europe and sees itself part of it. This conflicts with China's dominance and Iran is irrelevant

 

[striver44]

Eventually this block will form may be through cpec .Iranian oil go to China and Russia through this route.Iran and Turkey are not creating problems at their own boarders

We'll see about that, Turkey and Iran could be the weak links in this imaginary bloc.

Especially when you realize that Turkey owns a huge chunk of another ally of Iran which is Syria.

 

[Dalit]

There is no bloc. It's non-existent and only in people's minds.

Russia and Iran will not ruin their relation with India to please Pakistan.

Each of the three countries you mention are absolutely selfish (as it should be) and don't see themselves belonging to any bloc.

You guys need to get this bloc psychology out of your heads and work with everyone cautiously.

The US obviously is no friend of Pakistan at the moment. Working closely with China, as in CPEC and closer defence cooperation, is the future but try not to be enemies with other superpowers.

You are mistaken about that. Iran and Russia have already proved that they are not going to be held hostage by India when it comes to expanding their relations with other nations. That is just a fact. From defence relations to geopolitics. All nations look at their interests. Even papa America who claims to be the biggest proponent and supporter of India cannot claim that it values one relationship more than others.

The US is a declining superpower. People who keep believing that the US has superpowers and can make others vanish need a reality check. The US has certain powers, but also limitations. We Pakistanis know that like no other. We tested them real good in Afghanistan to know their weaknesses.

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Especially when you realize that Turkey owns a huge chunk of another ally of Iran which is Syria.

Why would a NATO member join this shitty fictional alliance doesn't make sense. It is simply not real

 

[striver44]

Why would a NATO member join this shitty fictional alliance doesn't make sense. It is simply real

Ahhh yes, thanks for reminding me.

Turkey is NATO, how on earth could I forgot this fact.

 

[Dalit]

I Am not arab does Tuqhlaq sound arab to you.. Look This alliance is just fictional. No such alliance exists today. Pakistan has an alliance with China on regional level not worldwide level where as Russia seeks to join Europe and sees itself part of it. This conflicts with China's dominance and Iran is irrelevant being bullied by tiny ISRAEL without retaliating

You act more like an Arab than a Pakistani. That is for sure.

I know why you are so opposed to this alliance. It doesn't fit your narrative and worldview. That is not how it works. Nations look beyond rhetoric and likes dislikes. Nations cooperate based on ground realities. The reality is that regions must cooperate to flourish. Iran, China, Pakistan and Russia are regional nations who must cooperate on various levels.

Pakistan is not an Arab or Western pawn. Pakistan cannot be held hostage to appease the US. Pakistan is a sovereign nation that must make decisions in its best interest. Best interest dictates that regional cooperation is a must.

 

[Rana4pak]

We'll see about that, Turkey and Iran could be the weak links in this imaginary bloc.

Especially when you realize that Turkey owns a huge chunk of another ally of Iran which is Syria.

Turke is rejected by eu and America and Iran is enemy of America both needs China and Russia.one more reason for formation of this block is sco and many more reasono such as Russian Needs to reach warm water for trade etc

 

[GHALIB]

There is road between China and Russia. There is road between Pakistan and China. There is road between Iran and Pakistan. So this mean Iran, Pakistan, China, Russia are connected by road, unlike America, Australia, Japan, India which are not connected by road. So the Iran, Pakistan, China, Russia is better strategically because contiguous.

Who’s Afraid of the First China-Russia Road Bridge?

Addressing the persistent myth that China seeks a demographic takeover of the Russian Far East.

thediplomat.com

Russia, China, Pakistan, Iran Start One Of World's Most Fiercest Military Drills

Russia launched a major military drill on Monday, involving almost 80,000 servicemen. Kavkaz-2020 (Caucasus-2020) is the final stage of annual combat training this year, the Defense Ministry said in a statement. Chinese PLA Soldiers Gearing-Up For Harsh ‘Ladakhi’ Winters As India-China Talks Hit...

eurasiantimes.com

@That Guy @Itachi @SpaceMan18 @F-22Raptor @Get Ya Wig Split @mike2000 is back @vostok @striver44 @tower9

ruusia and china iran are self sufficient pakistan is a poor country . so there will be no equality based cooperation .

 

[striver44]

Let's about Russia and why it is never their interest to be in this imaginary clown bloc.

Russia main concern is always first and foremost the security of it's western flank. Which is the European plains, they don't care much about China's interest be it economic or military in the Pacific.

On the other hand the 4 members of quad had a same interest mainly in the Pacific and Indian ocean, hence they could collaborate the foreign policy to support each other.

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

You act more like an Arab than a Pakistani. That is for sure.

I know why you are so opposed to this alliance. It doesn't fit your narrative and worldview. That is not how it works. Nations look beyond rhetoric and likes dislikes. Nations cooperate based on ground realities. The reality is that regions must cooperate to flourish. Iran, China, Pakistan and Russia are regional nations who must cooperate on various levels.

The issue is that such an alliance is unrealistic due to differences in policies. Example Russia and China won't work as much as some people may like it to work. Russia sees itself as European and wants to join Europe as the sole leader. This conflicts with China. Pakistan and China alliance is on regional level they share same enemy and trade but outside of the region they don't share policies. Iran on the larger scale of things shares trade with all parties but not final end policies.

 

[GHALIB]

Turkey and Iran are foes, in Syria both backed different groups.

iran and pakistan are not friends even .