The Iran deal: How far will Americans go in extending “special status” to Israel?

[Serpentine]

Yep they actually do. US also loves to shove its nose everywhere like Iran.

Since when are you against U.S policies? So you agree that U.S should get out of ME and stop messing in ME? And you agree that they should cut all funding and military help to Israel?

Tak list of richest men in US, u will see that few are Jews. And not all Jews are pro Israeli.

Not only Jewish lobbies like J street and AIPAC, but also non-Jewish influential people.
I don't think one has to be a Jew to support Israel like that, if anything, number of nutjobs in congress and senate opposing the deal and giving apocalyptic predictions for this deal should tell you something.

I dont throw conspiracies. Those Shia militias are literally kissing hands to Ayatulas.

Iraq, Syria, Yemen and Lebanon all are sovereign nation. Only because they have close relations with Iran doesn't mean they are controlled by Iran. See definition of partners and allies in a dictionary.

In fact its Hamas and Iran who refuse this resolution while Israel accepts.

Is that why the talks started by John Kerry and Obama collapsed for 1967 borders? Wasn't it because of Israeli rogue demands and playing games? Hamas and Iran were not in those talks.

Iran has openly said, whatever 'all' Palestinians decide for their fate, it will respect it. We can't force them not to accept something if they wanna do it.

US started supporting Israel only after 1967

Mostly because not much happened between 1948 and 67. Besides U.S was among first countries who recognized Israel.

WHat about 2008 crisis is it Israeli fault too? LOL.

U.S supported Israel in 1973 unconditionally and the oil crisis happened because of that.

Yes hundreds of people are killed every day, millions displaced, but 1 killed a month in Israel causes bad image.

There are now forces raising their voice in U.S complaining 'special status' Israel has in U.S. It's time to treat Israel like other countries. Firstly, forcing it to join NPT and destroy its nukes.

There must be agreement. Israel got back to 67 borders in Gaza and what was the result?

With Netanyahu? It's not going to happen, he is more nutjob than that to talk for peace. But perhaps, people like Yitzhak Rabin (which ironically wasn't tolerated by Jewish extremists and got killed by them) would open a window. But I don't think they get a chance, since Israeli society gets more extreme every single day.

Israel has zero interest in conflict with Iran. Its all initiated by Ayatulas.

Yes, but Israel can not live in peace unless it resolves its own conflict with Palestinians and is ready to make huge concessions. With Iran or without Iran.

 

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Since when are you against U.S policies? So you agree that U.S should get out of ME and stop messing in ME? And you agree that they should cut all funding and military help to Israel?

If no one was involved would be better.

Not only Jewish lobbies like J street and AIPAC, but also non-Jewish influential people.
I don't think one has to be a Jew to support Israel like that, if anything, number of nutjobs in congress and senate opposing the deal and giving apocalyptic predictions for this deal should tell you something.

So Americans cant influence themselves?

Iraq, Syria, Yemen and Lebanon all are sovereign nation. Only because they have close relations with Iran doesn't mean they are controlled by Iran. See definition of partners and allies in a dictionary.

These militias are financed, armed and trained by Iran. Why Iran is showing its nose to Arab countries?

Is that why the talks started by John Kerry and Obama collapsed for 1967 borders? Wasn't it because of Israeli rogue demands and playing games? Hamas and Iran were not in those talks.

Israel always supported res 242. While Hamas and Iran oppose it.

Iran has openly said, whatever 'all' Palestinians decide for their fate, it will respect it. We can't force them not to accept something if they wanna do it.

Iran always arms and finances most crazy among the Palestinians. Thanks to u Palestinians are much more radical.

Mostly because not much happened between 1948 and 67. Besides U.S was among first countries who recognized Israel.

So 3 large wars, fedain attacks, PLO founding are nothing? LOL

U.S supported Israel in 1973 unconditionally and the oil crisis happened because of that.

It was just excuse. As result of Iran-Iraq war oil prices rose much much more sharply.

There are now forces raising their voice in U.S complaining 'special status' Israel has in U.S. It's time to treat Israel like other countries. Firstly, forcing it to join NPT and destroy its nukes.

What about special status of India and Pakistan? LOL

With Netanyahu? It's not going to happen, he is more nutjob than that to talk for peace. But perhaps, people like Yitzhak Rabin (which ironically wasn't tolerated by Jewish extremists and got killed by them) would open a window. But I don't think they get a chance, since Israeli society gets more extreme every single day.

Begin was far far more radical than Netanyahu, yet he made peace with Saddat.

Yes, but Israel can not live in peace unless it resolves its own conflict with Palestinians and is ready to make huge concessions. With Iran or without Iran.

There are zillion conflicts around way more bloody than Israel-Paletinian and they dont bother your Atatulas at all. So why that obsession with Israel? What is evern funny that ur crazy Shia militias slaughter Palestinians in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.

 

[bozorgmehr]

Zionism is nothing more than the Jewish version of the racist and ethnocentric European ideologies of the old... Except that Judaism is itself already one of the most xenophobic and exclusivist schools of thought to ever grace the earth. Even more so than Islam.... and that's saying something. Jews are the exclusive chosen people of god..... The land of Israel is given to the Jews by god and it's their exclusive property.... all non-Jews need to be violently cleansed from Eretz Ysrael... and so on... I mean read the old testament folks.... and then compare it to the Gathas to see the difference.

Then you will understand where these people come from. They truly believe in this crap. They're vicious and visceral.... and anybody who threatens their interests is their enemy and by proxy the enemy of god. They're systematically marked and knocked down. They're like ISIS, except they're nuclear armed. Unfortunately i don't see a good ending with these people. So if Iran pretends to be an independent power, she's got to be ready for a long term struggle with Israel...

 

[Adecypher]

In fact , standby and watch these bozos get creamed in the next Election.

Does not matter who comes to power R or D; the foreign policy towards Israel remain pretty consistent.

 

[jammersat]

"How far will america go" probably as far as they went during the 90s , handing more taxpayer and saudi money to israel so that israel can build more fancy apartments for their jews ..