The invasion of Ukraine makes it obvious: The IDF will fight its own battles, alone (Jerusalem Post)

[BHAN85]

Invasion of Ukraine makes it clear: IDF will fight its own battles

It is something that Israel has said over and over again: Israel is not a party to any deal signed with Tehran – And if needed, Israel’s military will act against Iran.

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If President Joe Biden’s speech on Wednesday evening wasn’t clear enough: Ukraine is on its own against the Russian bear. And if there’s anything Israel can learn from that, is that it also will find itself fighting alone should it ever find itself in a war against Iran.

American puppets are waking up from their nonsenses dream.

So better think twice before the next provocation against Iran.

 

[Vapnope]

American relationship with Israel is nothing like any other relationship with other countries/allies. We have seen the amount of help US provided to Israel during Arab Israel wars and it would continue to ensure that Israel remains ahead of any country in ME.
Even in case of Iran, US would definitely get involved in one way or the other.

 

[BHAN85]

American relationship with Israel is nothing like any other relationship with other countries/allies. We have seen the amount of help US provided to Israel during Arab Israel wars and it would continue to ensure that Israel remains ahead of any country in ME.
Even in case of Iran, US would definitely get involved in one way or the other.

Iranian war itself is a American backstabbing to Israel.
True American help would avoid the war.
But USA is instigating it since one decade ago.

 

[Vapnope]

Iranian war itself is a American backstabbing to Israel.
True American help would avoid the war.
But USA is instigating it since one decade ago.

How it is backstabbing? Pls elaborate

 

[BHAN85]

How it is backstabbing? Pls elaborate

If you are a true friend you dont instigate a bloodbath to your friend.

Israel vs Iran war will have a cost in Israeli people lives.

USA have enough economic power to avoid that war and persuade Iran by money.

But USA precisely exclude Israel from Iran Deal negotiations.

USA is not interested in Israel security anymore.

We live in a world with limited raw materials and energetic resources since 2008.

Big wars in Eurasia, including Middle East, are a good thing for USA, no matter who wins. Just destruction, mayhem and decrease conssumption, like Iraq and Libya.

 

[K_Bin_W]

If amreeka cuts the umbilical cord the kosher state has 48 hrs max even with its nukes.

 

[reflecthofgeismar]

If you are a true friend you dont instigate a bloodbath to your friend.

Israel vs Iran war will have a cost in Israeli people lives.

USA have enough economic power to avoid that war and persuade Iran by money.

But USA precisely exclude Israel from Iran Deal negotiations.

USA is not interested in Israel security anymore.

We live in a world with limited raw materials and energetic resources since 2008.

Big wars in Eurasia, including Middle East, are a good thing for USA, no matter who wins. Just destruction, mayhem and decrease conssumption, like Iraq and Libya.

Israel was important for the US when they had their main interest in this region, especially in the cold war time, as a counterweight to Soviet influence and their usage of the Arabs.
It's easier to let Sunnis and Shia slaughter each other, than all Sunnis concentrate on US outpost Israel, supported by Saudi oil money.
Saudi were main sponsor against Israelis until Iranian revolution, then swapped to fight Shia Iran.
Israel MUST SPEND 74-76% from US aid into US made products. So it goes back into the US (most don't understand that LOL) and was even blocking good Israeli companies to survive bc buying US products was easier (much corruption from Jews against their fellow jewish-owned companies), army boots as an example.
Most Muslim countries who get US aid are still against US and chanting death to Murrica/Israel and burning their flags, except producing anti-US "terrorists" or real terrorist they don't do anything for the US.
Israel saves money for US.
Israel saves up to 150k US soldiers in this region. From Mossad help I don't wanna start...
For the improvements on F-15/16 it's insane how much money US saved by let the Jews do it...
"As of September 2018, the active duty component of United States Army consists of 31 brigade combat teams:
14 infantry brigade combat teams (including airborne brigades)
10 armored brigade combat teams
7 Stryker brigade combat teams"
Even if all brigades would consist of 5k per brigade (which they are not), REGULAR Army would use all soldiers in that region to have same effect as Israel (as a whole).

Now US has lost it's monopoly 90s-2010s, Russia is "strong" again and China is a fully grown dragon who is still being fed, especially by greedy West.
Israel goes down the toilet in the next 2 decades, especially bc they have become soft.
ISRAELI Arabs (who showed their "loyalty" to Israel 2021) are breeding them out and the only Jews who make many babies are the ultra-orthodox, who are often racist against non-Jews BUT don't like israel either, they wanna breed, don't work, don't join the IDF.

 

[rmi5]

To say the least, Israel, as a nation born right after Holocaust, by those survived from it in Europe, was never under such illusion that Europeans or anybody else, are going fight their wars for them.

Israel was important for the US when they had their main interest in this region, especially in the cold war time, as a counterweight to Soviet influence and their usage of the Arabs.
It's easier to let Sunnis and Shia slaughter each other, than all Sunnis concentrate on US outpost Israel, supported by Saudi oil money.

This is a conspiracy theory. The reality is that King Faisal was keen on funding anti-Israel wars. After his death in 1975, four years before Iranian revolution happens in 1979, Saudis changed their course completely, started to work with Israel.

If you are a true friend you dont instigate a bloodbath to your friend.

Israel vs Iran war will have a cost in Israeli people lives.

USA have enough economic power to avoid that war and persuade Iran by money.

But USA precisely exclude Israel from Iran Deal negotiations.

USA is not interested in Israel security anymore.

We live in a world with limited raw materials and energetic resources since 2008.

Big wars in Eurasia, including Middle East, are a good thing for USA, no matter who wins. Just destruction, mayhem and decrease conssumption, like Iraq and Libya.

International relations are not about "true" Bollywood friendships.

 

[Beny Karachun]

If you are a true friend you dont instigate a bloodbath to your friend.

Israel vs Iran war will have a cost in Israeli people lives.

USA have enough economic power to avoid that war and persuade Iran by money.

But USA precisely exclude Israel from Iran Deal negotiations.

USA is not interested in Israel security anymore.

We live in a world with limited raw materials and energetic resources since 2008.

Big wars in Eurasia, including Middle East, are a good thing for USA, no matter who wins. Just destruction, mayhem and decrease conssumption, like Iraq and Libya.

A war between Iran and Israel will cease Iran's existence.

Just so you know, Israel knows it can't destroy all of Iran's nuclear facilities conventionally.

This is an extreme scenario, but don't think for a second that Israel would hesitate to use its nukes if it is the only way to stop Iranian nuclear program.

 

[Beny Karachun]

I am honestly no fan of Iran.. But you simply don't have the manpower to de-exist them period nor have the manpower to set your azz on their soil but they have to overrun you..

Would have been true if we were fighting with swords, it isn't true anymore.

Israeli military is the most efficient fighting force in existence. Israeli technological advantage over Iran is absurdly high.
And as I said, Israel has nukes.

 

[MH.Yang]

For USA, Israel and Ukraine are completely different.
USA will certainly not let Israel fight alone. If USA does not decline, Israel will not decline.
In fact, everyone knows that, but there are always people who deceive themselves because they are afraid of USA. It's cowardly and shameful.

 

[Qutb-ud-din-Aibak]

Would have been true if we were fighting with swords, it isn't true anymore.

Israeli military is the most efficient fighting force in existence. Israeli technological advantage over Iran is absurdly high.
And as I said, Israel has nukes.

Israel has nukes I give you that but who says they won't make one.. Swords?` They have the equippment conventionally to destroy Israel's conventional forces but you don't have the manpower with nuke or no nuke.. With nukes on both sides it just makes your defeat much easier and conventionally you stand no chance whatsoever against Iran in a fight.

They aren't as poorly equipped as you may wish and conventionally Israel can't get past Daraa forget going anywhere else. Nations with manpower can rollover Iran however but Israel has Conventionally zero chance against Iran because it is a freaking midget with poor stragetic depth.. 0%

Other regional elements have the conventional scale manpower to go inside Iran and compete village for village but Israel is beneath that treeshold in size, scale and depth..

 

[Beny Karachun]

Israel has nukes I give you that but who says they won't make one.. Swords?` They have the equippment conventionally to destroy Israel's conventional forces but you don't have the manpower with nuke or no nuke.. With nukes on both sides it just makes your defeat much easier and conventionally you stand no chance whatsoever against Iran in a fight.

They aren't as poorly equipped as you may wish and conventionally Israel can't get past Daraa forget going anywhere else. Nations with manpower can rollover Iran however but Israel has Conventionally zero chance against Iran because it is a freaking midget with poor stragetic depth.. 0%

No lol, cavemen with AK47s aren't going to do anything against a Merkava Mk4 with Trophy APS, shitty 1980s jets and crappy air defenses won't do shit against Israeli F-35s, F-15s and F-16s along with suicide drones and cruise missiles, your stupid speedboats won't do anything against Israeli ships armed with the best electronic warfare out there and some of the best air defense systems in existence (Barak 8 and Iron Dome)
Your shitty rockets are going to fall like flies after they meet our laser weapon systems that will be operational very soon,

And even without those technological advantages, our strategies and tactics are better,god is with us, and we will fight until the last drop of blood, the question is just whether it's Iranian blood or ours.


Anyways, those are stupid hypothetical scenarios, in reality, the US, the Arab Gulf and NATO are going to be our allies.
We're currently seeing what western equipment does to shitty eastern block ones, with only 1 month of preparation and training.
The next war will be a massacre to anyone opposing us.

 

[Qutb-ud-din-Aibak]

The next war will be a massacre to anyone opposing us.

It will be mutual massarce but you won't make it out alive due to poor stragetic depth.. 6 billion could die but Israel won't make it out alive that much is assured folks with larger population may survive..

Every chapter has an end it is just destiny hence Israel will ride into the sunset.. States come and go tho zion won't be the only one many many nations in the region will ride into the sunset hence it is not limited to U no need to hurry. It will just be the change of an apoch where entirely new nations will emerge with different borders

 

[Beny Karachun]

It will be mutual massarce but you won't make it out alive due to poor stragetic depth

We never had strategic depth, yet we continued to win
The same talks happened when far stronger coalitions faced us, talks of genocide of Israel by Egypt, Syria, Jordan and hundreds of thousands of Arab expeditionary troops. Israel swiftly destroyed them all, killing 20 enemy soldiers for every one casualty, and tripling its territory.