The Independence Day Incident of harassment Seems Self Inflicted !

[SQ8]

Sir the moral indecency is not gender biased. I clearly see both the parties as morally indecent. Such incidents are a natural outcome.

That is why i hold the opinion (please agree to disagree) aurat marches and so called culture which is being forcefully promoted against the fabric of our society which has existed for centuries is the actual reason of increase in such incidents.

Such incidents are a norm in western society, dont expect any different result in our society if you force western culture in our society.

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Taking extreme position be it liberal or religious renders one blind. Indecency in a society leads to moral bankruptcy. You want to control such incidents by force and at the same time campaign for indecency, be my guest sir.

Equating indecency to suggesting that harassment is bad regardless of it occuring to a woman like this or in a Burka is the root of the problem. The immediate excuse to not having law and order enforcement as indecency will only have what the Taliban had back in 1999. Women were forcibly married for rape, prostitution just went further underground and the Taliban couldn’t find all of it but the younger ones still engaged in it.
Yes, lets agree to disagree -
@VCheng starting to realize more and more that I have no more a stake in Pakistan and should not care either.

 

[Windjammer]

It's being reported by ARY that the woman stopped police from taking any action against the said culprits.
The police officer in charge however, considered it a criminal incident and registered the case on his own accord.

 

[CatSultan]

Unfortunately - regardless of her own character, she did not ask to be harassed. That harassment is what reflects on Pakistani society and if the byproduct of one attention seeker was just another display of Pakistani mentality then it shows that Pakistani mentality is the root cause - all TikTok and these incidents are is a window into it.

I'm not victim blaming but what did she expect? If you shout the N word in Harlem you get jumped. Every society has its bad people. These peoples actions are a reflection of their mentality. Not the whole country. Their are a lot of things wrong with Pakistani mentality. Lack of respect for women is not one of them.

 

[Aawish]

Even if it is a self-inflicted or scripted event, it doesn't warrant the barbaric act of such men. Such public harassment incidents happened so many times over the years. Not all the victims were tik tokers nor they wanted any sort of fame. Just search the term "PTI Jalsa Harassment" on YouTube and you will find tons of similar sexual terrorism videos. We, as a society have to accept our flaws and stop worrying about losing our prestige and honor when such incidents are highlighted on social media. This cancer needs chemotherapy.

Such incidents make us wish to have an Iranian or Saudi-style justice system in our country. The situation will further get deteriorated in our country once Talibs start implementing their swift justice system in Afghanistan and the conservatives in our society will start comparing it with our lethargic justice system. Such a comparison will embolden our radicals to bring a similar justice system in our society and again a vicious cycle of a state within a state-like system (as in Swat) will reemerge in the country.

 

[CatSultan]

Yes, banning will surely solve the problem.






(or maybe not?)

As much as I hate Tik Tok. banning stuff never works. People just look for alternatives. All you will do by banning Tik Tok is boost VPN companies sales. You have to change the mentality of people. Like Maulana Tariq Jameel is doing.

Even if it is a self-inflicted or scripted event, it doesn't warrant the barbaric act of such men. Such public harassment incidents happened so many times over the years. Not all the victims were tik tokers nor they wanted any sort of fame. Just search the term "PTI Jalsa Harassment" on YouTube and you will find tons of similar sexual terrorism videos. We, as a society have to accept our flaws and stop worrying about losing our prestige and honor when such incidents are highlighted on social media. This cancer needs chemotherapy.

Such incidents make us wish to have an Iranian or Saudi-style justice system in our country. The situation will further get deteriorated in our country once Talibs start implementing their swift justice system in Afghanistan and the conservatives in our society will start comparing it with our lethargic justice system. Such a comparison will embolden our radicals to bring a similar justice system in our society and again a vicious cycle of a state within a state-like system (as in Swat) will reemerge in the country.

Stop simping for a Tik Tok thot. Its partly her fault

 

[SQ8]

I'm not victim blaming but what did she expect? If you shout the N word in Harlem you get jumped. Every society has its bad people. These peoples actions are a reflection of their mentality. Not the whole country. Their are a lot of things wrong with Pakistani mentality. Lack of respect for women is not one of them.

Threads from here to noor mukaddam to many many stories before shows otherwise. That idea of bad people everywhere would apply only if bad people actually were served justice.

Again, if it hasn’t occurred to you or the immediate knee jerk is “must be a thot or liberal” then you are part of that mentality.Peshawar, with its much more covered women in Purdah get harassed from Saddar to universities to the Barra.. there are also people there who stand up and a crowd gathers too. But at the end, no-one gets arrested, no one applies the law.

 

[Goenitz]

Does anyone really believe our men will literally gather and sexually harass a lady? If that's so then why has this type of similar act hasn't happened in the future.

Brother you don't know about mob mentality. People go bonkers in a mob, and behave when a re alone.

 

[SQ8]

Even if it is a self-inflicted or scripted event, it doesn't warrant the barbaric act of such men. Such public harassment incidents happened so many times over the years. Not all the victims were tik tokers nor they wanted any sort of fame. Just search the term "PTI Jalsa Harassment" on YouTube and you will find tons of similar sexual terrorism videos. We, as a society have to accept our flaws and stop worrying about losing our prestige and honor when such incidents are highlighted on social media. This cancer needs chemotherapy.

Such incidents make us wish to have an Iranian or Saudi-style justice system in our country. The situation will further get deteriorated in our country once Talibs start implementing their swift justice system in Afghanistan and the conservatives in our society will start comparing it with our lethargic justice system. Such a comparison will embolden our radicals to bring a similar justice system in our society and again a vicious cycle of a state within a state-like system (as in Swat) will reemerge in the country.

It wouldn’t matter - many of those Jalsa harassers or those that have harassed women in the past are the same pool from some here. Once they get older and have their own daughters or switch morality when it comes to their own women they go into talking of wanting that swift justice . At the end, it is the characteristic of the nation that defines it.
The knee jerk reaction is constantly defending the society and their own character be it this incident or noor or the kasur child pornography or ransacking of temples - the constant cry being “its not us and its fake” from that point on going for gaslighting on usual liberal vs this or that. Not much different from the RSS ideaology in India where it’s Hindutva or you’re a secularist liberal traitor.

 

[Goenitz]

Even if it is a self-inflicted or scripted event, it doesn't warrant the barbaric act of such men. Such public harassment incidents happened so many times over the years

Sure. Otherwise what next, culprit will say that they were seduced by the Iblees. So, even if she was provoking/inviting/enticing people must had practised self-control.

Not all the victims were tik tokers nor they wanted any sort of fame. Just search the term "PTI Jalsa Harassment" on YouTube and you will find tons of similar sexual terrorism videos

Boys even go to market, just to grope women in busy time. Once, a boy did it to my sister. We gathered friends and beaten him. After just two hits, he fled like a cat (pu*****)

As much as I hate Tik Tok. banning stuff never works.

It can help a lot. But it will prevent other people just causes. Like marketing, singers, interview excerpt, vigilante, reports, etc,

what you REALLY need to do ban/block all bollywood and pornographic filth. We need to contact China and instill an artificially intelligent national firewall that blocks all sexual/pornographic content.

At least we need total surveillance to prevent terrorists activities. This is a must for CPEC progress. Plus, it will prevent street, sexual assault, and other crimes.

 

[GumNaam]

Forwarded as received.

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The third-rate TikToker herself invited her low-class fans for a meet-up but ended up being harassed by them and is now trying to cash in on the situation. Punish those criminals who assaulted her in accordance with the law of the land and ban TikTok for good. Neither our religion nor our culture allows such Be-hayai in Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

#MinarePakistan
#BanTikTok

how is the fault of tiktok? what're you gonna do next? ban youtube? cuz you can make cellphone videos and post them on youtube...same with instagram. these are just apps.

what you REALLY need to do ban/block all bollywood and pornographic filth. We need to contact China and instill an artificially intelligent national firewall that blocks all sexual/pornographic content. AND LEGISLATE SEVERE PUNISHMENTS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUGHT EVEN WATCHING THAT STUFF! these so called "content creators" will automatically fizzle out.

 

[Patriot forever]

Equating indecency to suggesting that harassment is bad regardless of it occuring to a woman like this or in a Burka is the root of the problem. The immediate excuse to not having law and order enforcement as indecency will only have what the Taliban had back in 1999. Women were forcibly married for rape, prostitution just went further underground and the Taliban couldn’t find all of it but the younger ones still engaged in it.
Yes, lets agree to disagree

Sir if we try to forcibly impose western culture in our society, it creates frustration in our society, the fallout effects everyone, the few entitled will find ways and will never get punished the rest uneducated folk will resort to violence. Today you punish 400 tomorrow 4000 what about the day after tomorrow?

Curtailing indeceny along with harsh punishemnt for perpetrators is the only solution, one without the other is pointless.

As you say sir, lets agree to disagree.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Unfortunately - regardless of her own character, she did not ask to be harassed. That harassment is what reflects on Pakistani society and if the byproduct of one attention seeker was just another display of Pakistani mentality then it shows that Pakistani mentality is the root cause - all TikTok and these incidents are is a window into it.

I know she didn't ask to be harassed...and no woman should ever be harassed. The perpetrators should obviously be punished. However we must also acknowledge reality...which is that this world comprises of humans and not angels.
...so there will always be those bad apples...everywhere in some qty. This again is not a justification of the crime...just a preface to the next part of the explanation.
That being...her TikTok followers. What kind of ppl did she think were following her on TikTok? Why they were following her on TikTok? Based on the type of content posted in OP...it's obvious these men weren't looking at her TikTok to learn some cooking recipes. It is abundantly clear the type of ppl her followers must be. So then when she invited a mass of them...and went amongst that crowd...what other outcome can we expect? And more importantly what other outcome did she expect? It's almost like hand picking those bad apples...so that ur basket is full of them...and then complaining about the bad taste.

 

[El Sidd]

how is the fault of tiktok? what're you gonna do next? ban youtube? cuz you can make cellphone videos and post them on youtube...same with instagram. these are just apps.

what you REALLY need to do ban/block all bollywood and pornographic filth. We need to contact China and instill an artificially intelligent national firewall that blocks all sexual/pornographic content. AND LEGISLATE SEVERE PUNISHMENTS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUGHT EVEN WATCHING THAT STUFF! these so called "content creators" will automatically fizzle out.

Why?

Super science project failed in 3 years?

 

[CatSultan]

She seriously needs to hit the gym and do some serious cardio. Also needs to cut down on the sugar and carbohydrates............................................

but her fans like her thicc

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

but her fans like her thicc

Her fans need to go to specsavers.