The impending collapse of China

[northeast]

mughals were muslims though, they were not bhramins were they?

Central asian invaders ruled india countless times in ancient times.

 

[Shinigami]

^^^ Even your own fellow Indians acknowledge that the subcontinent was composed of many different independent kingdoms before the British arrived.

And none of these were "India" by any definition. India is a geographical term that was based off the Indus river, which is in Pakistan.

The Maurya Empire was an anomaly that only lasted for about 100 years, that too several thousand years ago. It was only a blink in history, and it had nothing to do with India either.

thats true. the british saw a lot of warring factions and took advantage of it. but it wasnt like that for a long time


they weren't called india. it was called "BHARAT". now u can understand why pakistanis are so nervous about BHARAT or AKHAND BHARAT. India was the name given by greeks. just like the name 'china'

both mauryan and mughal empires lasted for almost 1000 years. thats a lot more than united china

 

[Developereo]

OK, back to the topic.

What's interesting is that, even the "negative" forecast by Chovanec has a silver lining:

Foreign Affairs: China’s Real Estate Crash « Patrick Chovanec

While frightening, the popping of China’s real estate bubble is not all bad news. Cheaper, more affordable housing could also unlock the savings of China’s working-class families, unleashing greater consumer demand and helping to rebalance the global economy. Investment long bottled up in idle real estate could flow to more productive pursuits. These adjustments have been put off too long. This is why at least some of China’s leaders appear determined to force a correction despite the risks. But they know they are walking a razor’s edge.

Governments always try to steer for a soft easing in the face of rampant growth.

 

[Shinigami]

Central asian invaders ruled india countless times in ancient times.

yes. through the khyber pass which is in current day pakistan

 

[Jackdaws]

Those are Yaodong, and it is part of culture and heritage around Loess Plateau in China's north. The earth that surrounds the indoor space serves as an effective insulator keeping the inside of the structure warm in cold seasons and cool in hot seasons. Consequently, very little heating is required in winter, and in summer, it is as cool as an air-conditioned room. So they are very energy efficient.

Right - or they could live in a building with Air-cons rather than in caves but hey whatever rocks your Chinese boat.

 

[Tractor]

You were saved by Brits and US in second world war either there will no country named China today. You already surrendered morally to Japnese.

Little Japan can hold on controlling a large country with too many native people?
Japan would be a province of China if no US incursion.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

What's interesting is that, even the "negative" forecast by Chovanec has a silver lining:

Foreign Affairs: China’s Real Estate Crash « Patrick Chovanec

While frightening, the popping of China’s real estate bubble is not all bad news. Cheaper, more affordable housing could also unlock the savings of China’s working-class families, unleashing greater consumer demand and helping to rebalance the global economy. Investment long bottled up in idle real estate could flow to more productive pursuits. These adjustments have been put off too long. This is why at least some of China’s leaders appear determined to force a correction despite the risks. But they know they are walking a razor’s edge.

Governments always try to steer for a soft easing in the face of rampant growth.

China as well has a greater incentive to create a soft landing (our political structure), and better tools to do so (state-owned companies and banks).

Chinese leaders have already been pushing economic growth downwards for the past few years, in order to reduce overheating. We have already had double-digit growth for three decades, it's not necessary anymore, given the much larger base size of our economy.

It would be an interesting scenario to try and anticipate what might happen if China did crash really badly though.

 

[faithfulguy]

he is chinese isnt he? besides what matters is that he is correct.

anyway. i have already answered you other query before.

india as a unified country existed longer than china did.

by mughals

and by mauryans

2. the entire subcontinent was called india. but we dont go around claiming other countries or other peoples land.

3.nepal was part of the indian sub continent.

4.the heirs of Indus Valley Civilization are not pakistanis. its the dravidians, who were droven out by "aryans" according to one theory

Why do you have to repeat the same stuff over again. As I had said, India as a whole was created by the British to prevent other colonial competitors from muscling into India subcontinent. As the country of India never existed before the British, the founders of the modern India state need something to connect with the people who live in the area before the British arrived. So they used religion and geography to connect to the kingdoms that existed before the arrival of the British. The kingdoms that existed in Indian subcontinent were kingdoms of their own right, they are not India. So that leave with religion. India is a country that try to tie to its past through Hinduism, just like how Israel today is attempt to tie to its past with Juidaism.

thats true. the british saw a lot of warring factions and took advantage of it. but it wasnt like that for a long time


they weren't called india. it was called "BHARAT". now u can understand why pakistanis are so nervous about BHARAT or AKHAND BHARAT. India was the name given by greeks. just like the name 'china'

both mauryan and mughal empires lasted for almost 1000 years. thats a lot more than united china

Mughal empire didn't last for almost 1000 year, I do not need to look it up to refute you, unless you are counting dog years. Also, Mughal is am empire in its own right, its not India. So were the mauryans. They have some cultural connection to the religion and geography. But India today was founded by England more so than these distant past empire.

Also note, they are mughal and Mauryan empires. Not Indian empire.

 

[Jackdaws]

You got to love the Chinese - according to them Indian history begins in 1947. So by that logic the Chinese history begins in 1949 with the formation of the PRC. Which kind of defeats its claim to Tibet based on history. But the Chinese and logic are like chalk and cheese..they never seem to get it.

 

[Shinigami]

Why do you have to repeat the same stuff over again.

when u ask the same questions, expect the same answers

As I had said, India as a whole was created by the British to prevent other colonial competitors from muscling into India subcontinent. As the country of India never existed before the British, the founders of the modern India state need something to connect with the people who live in the area before the British arrived. So they used religion and geography to connect to the kingdoms that existed before the arrival of the British. The kingdoms that existed in Indian subcontinent were kingdoms of their own right, they are not India. So that leave with religion. India is a country that try to tie to its past through Hinduism, just like how Israel today is attempt to tie to its past with Juidaism.

although you are partly correct initially, later you go way off.

british india was a project of economic exploitation

modern india was a vision of nehru and gandhi that was NOT founded on any relegion(like pakistan and israel) or ethinicity (like china). it was envisioned by these great men to be a pacifist, secular, tolerant and inclusive country that accepts you as a citizen no matter who u are, what u look like, or by what name you call god.

the details can be found in his book, the discovery of india

 

[Jackdaws]

Chinese originality -

China's KFC Rip-off Fast Food Restaurant "Obama Fried Chicken" Pokes Fun at President Obama | Cleveland Leader

And they have the cheek to call us racist.

I wonder who is more offended by that pic - the blacks or the KFC chaps.

 

[Developereo]

Chinese leaders have already been pushing economic growth downwards for the past few years, in order to reduce overheating. We have already had double-digit growth for three decades, it's not necessary anymore, given the much larger base size of our economy.

I don't see why the Chinese govt. doesn't start a baby bonus scheme. It would defuse the demographic time bomb and also pump money into the economy spurring domestic consumption. Of course, you have to make sure the parents don't just put the money in the bank instead of spending it.

It would be an interesting scenario to try and anticipate what might happen if China did crash really badly though.

Always good to make contingency plans for the worst case.

 

[northeast]

Chinese originality -

China's KFC Rip-off Fast Food Restaurant "Obama Fried Chicken" Pokes Fun at President Obama | Cleveland Leader

And they have the cheek to call us racist.

I wonder who is more offended by that pic - the blacks or the KFC chaps.

hehe，quite funny pic，isn't it？

 

[King Solomon]

Maybe a slowdown in growth due to the housing bubble in China. But "collapse"? Looks like a far fetched possibility

 

[Shinigami]

Mughal empire didn't last for almost 1000 year, I do not need to look it up to refute you, unless you are counting dog years. Also, Mughal is am empire in its own right, its not India. So were the mauryans. They have some cultural connection to the religion and geography. But India today was founded by England more so than these distant past empire.

Also note, they are mughal and Mauryan empires. Not Indian empire.

LOL please. next time tell that to the pakistanis. that is the only history they accept as their own.

anyway, as i said before, they lasted ALMOST 1000years, which is a lot more than i can say for a united china.

today's india has borrowed a lot from the british, such as bureaucracy, administration, language and judiciary.