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The hunt for the tomb of worlds greatest genocidal leader.

The frustrating hunt for Genghis Khan’s long-lost tomb just got a whole lot easier - The Washington Post

The frustrating hunt for Genghis Khan’s long-lost tomb just got a whole lot easier
By Terrence McCoy January 8 at 5:27 AM
butchered anyone they saw on their way to his burial tomb. Then they killed the people who built the monument. Then, finally, they killed themselves. Who knows whether the perhaps apocryphal tale is true, but even today, nearly 800 years following the death of the greatest conqueror the world has ever known, the location of his tomb remains unknown.

Many people have tried to find it, from archaeologists who uncovered Genghis Khan’s palace to some attorney in Chicago who led an expedition to 60 unopened tombs in the Mongol warlord’s realm. The quest is for both history — and for riches. According to Mongolia Today, incredible treasures were buried with Genghis Khan from every corner of his vast empire and, as one researcher told the Associated Press, “if we find what items were buried with him, we could write a new page for world history.”

That page may be written sooner than many imagine. That’s thanks to a novel new way to search for the tomb that scours vast tracts of underpopulated and undulating Mongol terrain — from space. Yes, space.

“Ultra-high resolution satellite imaging enables a new paradigm in global exploration,” said study published last week in the journal PLOS One. But the breadth of the search was so daunting and vast that researchers with the University of California at San Diego, led by Albert Yu-Min Lin, have outsourced the search to the general public.

“This is a needle in a haystack problem where the appearance of the needle is unknown,” wrote Lin, who has been described as a “modern-day Indiana Jones” and has been photographed dramatically riding horses across the Mongol expanse. So “we charged an online crowd of volunteer participants with the challenge of finding the tomb of Ghengis Khan, an archaeological enigma of unknown characteristics widely believed to be hidden somewhere within the range of our satellite imagery.”

One of the problems, however, is that there was so much land to study. The sweep of Genghis Khan’s empire, which began when he united Mongolia’s warring tribes in the early 13th century, is dizzying to contemplate. It first subsumed all of what is modern-day Mongolia before spilling across Asia on the might of the Mongol invasions, conquering terrain from China to the gates of Western Europe by the turn of the century. Many now suspect Khan’s final resting place is much closer to the roots of his power — in Mongolia itself, near the site of his palace, which sat around 150 miles east of the nation’s modern capital.

So in a partnership with National Geographic, Lin’s team constructed a landscape of more than 84,000 tiles that spanned more than 6,000 square kilometers and launched what they called a “virtual exploration system” in 2010. The task for participants: Tag anything that looks like it could be an “archaeological enigma that lacks any historical description of its potential visual appearance.”

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How the amateur explorers scoured for the Mongol warrior’s long-lost tomb. (Courtesy of Plos One.)
It was essential to get help, the paper said: “A single archaeologist would have to scroll through nearly 20,000 screens before covering the whole area.” Still, no one expected they would get so much of it.

More than 10,000 people gave it a go, tagging anything they thought looked like a location where a great Mongol warlord would want to rest in peace. In all, they clocked more than three years worth of work — 30,000 hours — and generated more than 2 million tags. From that number, the researchers have culled 100 locations for further inquiry and identified 55 “potential archaeological anomalies” that ranged from the Bronze Age to the Mongol period.

So far, no Khan yet. But the search is complicated by a number of factors unique to the quest for Khan’s tomb. As explained by Motherboard’s Ben Richmond, the Mongols absolutely hate archaeologists trampling on their turf disturbing the nation’s most holy sites. In fact, the spot where a lot of people thought Khan was buried is actually one of the country’s most sacred spots. It’s called Ikh Khorig, which translates literally to the “great taboo,” but is often called the “forbidden zone” by outsiders.

Lin, who reports described as “obsessed” with Genghis Khan and finding his tomb, also searched the forbidden zone, but found zilch. “The team pushed its way through the thick, boar-infested brush surrounding it and clambered to the top,” as National Geographic described one of the expedition’s analyses. “A test probe, however, revealed that the hill was just a hill.”

But now, thanks to his crowdsourcing study, he has a whole new slew of potential sites to explore and try and discover the tomb. Still, how to side-step Mongolia’s reservations about expeditions? “Mongolians detest any attempt to touch graves, or even wander around graveyards,” Mongolia Today said. “According to ancient tradition, burial spots are forbidden areas in which no one is allowed.”
 
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I don't think that anyone will be able to find his tomb. The earth repays people who do enormous bad deeds by wiping their existence off of their surface. People like Hitler, Genghis Khan and Ramses are a few example, although in the case of Ramses, God wanted him to be found and he "let it be". (as an example for the rest of us)

My two cents.:coffee:

(Please don't troll on me mentioning God) :police:
 
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I don't think that anyone will be able to find his tomb. The earth repays people who do enormous bad deeds by wiping their existence off of their surface. People like Hitler, Genghis Khan and Ramses are a few example, although in the case of Ramses, God wanted him to be found and he "let it be". (as an example for the rest of us)

My two cents.:coffee:

(Please don't troll on me mentioning God) :police:

1 in 16 humans are descended from genghis..how's that for wiping out his existence?:undecided:
 
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1 in 16 humans are descended from genghis..how's that for wiping out his existence?:undecided:

I think that number is bullshit. War rape was actually punished by death according to the Mongol code of law and honour. I doubt Genghis himself raped that many women.
 
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I think that number is bullshit. War rape was actually punished by death according to the Mongol code of law and honour. I doubt Genghis himself raped that many women.

True. It's ridiculous to think that all men who carry haplogroup C3 are descendants of Ghengis Khan. Ghengis himself had multiple wifes and sons Tolui, Chagatai, Ögedei, Batu.
 
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True. It's ridiculous to think that all men who carry haplogroup C3 are descendants of Ghengis Khan. Ghengis himself had multiple wifes and sons Tolui, Chagatai, Ögedei, Batu.

Lol, Y-haplogroup is not a good indicator of ancestry and all. SNPs are better.
 
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Lol, Y-haplogroup is not a good indicator of ancestry and all. SNPs are better.

My Hazara frnds always bitchin about having mongol ancestory .. shitty fb posts,useless discussions.. lol
 
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His tomb, which is only the body, leaving no grave goods.There is no trace.
I think that the satellite cannot detect DNA,this is purely nonsense,impossible to find it.

BTW According to Shaman customs, Mongols worship the soul, not the body, Genghis Khan's His last one breath--- soul camel, today in China Ordos Genghis Khan Mausoleum
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Ahem Ahem.

I would like to say something about what @AUSTERLITZ said.
"In this particular instance, the lineage originated 1,000 years ago. The authors aren't saying that the genetic mutations defining the lineage originated with Khan, who was born around 1162; they are more likely to have been passed on to him by a great great grandfather".

The above basically says that the genes defining Genghis Khan came from another human being, so those people are Khan's descendent but have the genes of that human being whose genetic material is in 16 million people. Khan's genetic material was as normal as anyone else's and was forgotten somewhere in his third generation. When many of his own people converted to Islam. :lol:

"Of course, the connection to Genghis Khan will never be a certainty unless his grave is found and his DNA could be extracted".

The above clearly says that it is not even confirmed. For example, I might be the descendent of Babur (just saying) but other than him being related to me, he's on the other hand not related to me too. Because, his genes got lost way back in time and all of my genes are right now mostly my parents and a few of my ancestors. Other than a family tree, I am not even related to him in any other way. Those who have studied Biology at advanced level would understand this.

So, Khan's existence from this world is not only spiritually but also physically wiped. For example, even if Babur and Timur were related to Genghis Khan, look at what both did in comparison to Khan. People should remember that there is a difference between behavior and genes. :rolleyes:

So, all of those 16 million people have the genetic material of the ancestor of Genghis Khan,not Khan himself. That is if all of this is confirmed.:taz:

@DESERT FIGHTER The Hazara's get to be the only people outside of Mongolia to be related to the progenitor of Khan's line. But this time, tell your friends they are nobodies like the rest of us because Khan's ancestor must have been a nobody(according to History). And, you can tell them they are not related to Khan as much as they are to Hazrat Adam(R.A). :D
 
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Ahem Ahem.

I would like to say something about what @AUSTERLITZ said.
"In this particular instance, the lineage originated 1,000 years ago. The authors aren't saying that the genetic mutations defining the lineage originated with Khan, who was born around 1162; they are more likely to have been passed on to him by a great great grandfather".

The above basically says that the genes defining Genghis Khan came from another human being, so those people are Khan's descendent but have the genes of that human being whose genetic material is in 16 million people. Khan's genetic material was as normal as anyone else's and was forgotten somewhere in his third generation. When many of his own people converted to Islam. :lol:

"Of course, the connection to Genghis Khan will never be a certainty unless his grave is found and his DNA could be extracted".

The above clearly says that it is not even confirmed. For example, I might be the descendent of Babur (just saying) but other than him being related to me, he's on the other hand not related to me too. Because, his genes got lost way back in time and all of my genes are right now mostly my parents and a few of my ancestors. Other than a family tree, I am not even related to him in any other way. Those who have studied Biology at advanced level would understand this.

So, Khan's existence from this world is not only spiritually but also physically wiped. For example, even if Babur and Timur were related to Genghis Khan, look at what both did in comparison to Khan. People should remember that there is a difference between behavior and genes. :rolleyes:

So, all of those 16 million people have the genetic material of the ancestor of Genghis Khan,not Khan himself. That is if all of this is confirmed.:taz:

@DESERT FIGHTER The Hazara's get to be the only people outside of Mongolia to be related to the progenitor of Khan's line. But this time, tell your friends they are nobodies like the rest of us because Khan's ancestor must have been a nobody(according to History). And, you can tell them they are not related to Khan as much as they are to Hazrat Adam(R.A). :D

The word Hazara itself comes from Hazara (refering to 1000 Mongol soldiers who settled)... but than again they do look very "mongolian" .. here is his pic:

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@Chinese-Dragon @Nihonjin1051
 
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The word Hazara itself comes from Hazara (refering to 1000 Mongol soldiers who settled)... but than again they do look very "mongolian" .. here is his pic:

lol, didn't you say that your friends said that they were descended from Genghis Khan? My explanation was intended for counter arguing their claim. Although I do know that they will have Mongolian features. But, don't worry, in a hundred years, if we don't conquer Mongolia, they will be 99% South Asians with no Mongolian features but still some Mongolian genetic material. :lol:
 
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