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The Great Game Changer: Belt and Road Intiative (BRI; OBOR)

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Man oh man, Sushma Swaraj is tiny.

That's normal. She is a lady.

Mr. Lavrov appears gigantic, LOL. No wonder, he is, in my opinion, the most influential foreign minister at the moment.

Mr. Yi is more scholarly.

Waste of time. BRICS is dead. It lasted about 5 years and the world changed and it became irrelevant.

I think, economically, BRICS is pretty much viable. But, to remain relevant further into future, I agree, the organization needs to be further institutionalized and start to cover broader issue areas.
 
It is a good initiative, but we all know that India will be more aligned with the US.
 
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'Russia, China and India Building Multipolar World' That Neo-Cons Don’t Get


© Sputnik/ Ramil Sitdikov
16:34 20.04.2016(updated 19:35 20.04.2016) Get short URL

The meeting of the foreign ministers of Russia, India and China in Moscow suggests continuing rapprochement between the three countries. However this union seems to agitate American and Japanese neo-conservatives, according to the former Chinese diplomat Wang Yusheng.

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© Sputnik/ Vitaliy Ankov
Russia-China Military Cooperation Considerably Grows in Recent Years

However, according to the diplomat these fears are abnormal and baseless because in reality the strategic partnership of Moscow, Delhi and Beijing will only benefit the multipolar world; online publication Global Times reported the diplomat as saying.


The strategic partnership between these three countries was first brought to light back in 1998 by then Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov. However, many did not share his point of view, considered it impossible and did not give it much importance.

However, his idea played quite an important role and gradually, meeting by meeting, these ties have evolved and expanded.

For many years now, the whole world is looking favorably on the partnership between Russia, India and China, which reinforces a multipolar system and contributes to stability in the region and around the world, the Global Times reported.

Russia, India and China are the largest countries in the world in terms of population and GDP. Russia inherited the power of the Soviet Union and has not lost its status as a great superpower; it is currently successfully recovering its position in the world.

India traditionally prefers not to accede to any alliances and China adheres to independence in diplomacy with both the countries moving forward at an impressive rate in economic growth.

“Hence, all three countries have a fairly high credibility on the world stage and it is quite obvious that they are making an important contribution to the multipolar world.”

All of these factors are a matter of concern for the United States. These countries are at a “strategic crossroads” for the US.

China, can resist the “Americanization;” Russia, whose president did not follow in the steps of his predecessors and did not go towards West and even India, which, for the US and Japan would be an ideal participant for “Asian NATO,” did not want to become part of the block.

“If the US threw aside its Cold War views, it would realize that Moscow, New Delhi and China are pursuing their cooperation in accordance to the call of the new epoch. This is quite a positive and healthy relationship that is beneficial for the development of the whole world,” Yusheng said.

“If all these neo-cons are so concerned about the happiness of mankind, why don’t they try and join the ranks themselves,” the diplomat concluded.
 
Of course it will excercise more influence in the future. India is better with Russia and China than USA. Uncle Sam is no happy with it to the extreme.
There is no way India can be comfortable with China better than US. It's not gonna happen. While India keep getting FDI from all around the world China can invest too but this not gonna stop our posture at our borders which I believe turning into offensive by each passing day

1038330026.jpg


'Russia, China and India Building Multipolar World' That Neo-Cons Don’t Get


© Sputnik/ Ramil Sitdikov
16:34 20.04.2016(updated 19:35 20.04.2016) Get short URL

The meeting of the foreign ministers of Russia, India and China in Moscow suggests continuing rapprochement between the three countries. However this union seems to agitate American and Japanese neo-conservatives, according to the former Chinese diplomat Wang Yusheng.

1030712726.jpg

© Sputnik/ Vitaliy Ankov
Russia-China Military Cooperation Considerably Grows in Recent Years

However, according to the diplomat these fears are abnormal and baseless because in reality the strategic partnership of Moscow, Delhi and Beijing will only benefit the multipolar world; online publication Global Times reported the diplomat as saying.


The strategic partnership between these three countries was first brought to light back in 1998 by then Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov. However, many did not share his point of view, considered it impossible and did not give it much importance.

However, his idea played quite an important role and gradually, meeting by meeting, these ties have evolved and expanded.

For many years now, the whole world is looking favorably on the partnership between Russia, India and China, which reinforces a multipolar system and contributes to stability in the region and around the world, the Global Times reported.

Russia, India and China are the largest countries in the world in terms of population and GDP. Russia inherited the power of the Soviet Union and has not lost its status as a great superpower; it is currently successfully recovering its position in the world.

India traditionally prefers not to accede to any alliances and China adheres to independence in diplomacy with both the countries moving forward at an impressive rate in economic growth.

“Hence, all three countries have a fairly high credibility on the world stage and it is quite obvious that they are making an important contribution to the multipolar world.”

All of these factors are a matter of concern for the United States. These countries are at a “strategic crossroads” for the US.

China, can resist the “Americanization;” Russia, whose president did not follow in the steps of his predecessors and did not go towards West and even India, which, for the US and Japan would be an ideal participant for “Asian NATO,” did not want to become part of the block.

“If the US threw aside its Cold War views, it would realize that Moscow, New Delhi and China are pursuing their cooperation in accordance to the call of the new epoch. This is quite a positive and healthy relationship that is beneficial for the development of the whole world,” Yusheng said.

“If all these neo-cons are so concerned about the happiness of mankind, why don’t they try and join the ranks themselves,” the diplomat concluded.
It's true all three are powerful in their region and of course willing to become more powerful globally. But I don't think it's gonna affect our bilateral ties with US Japan or Vietnam. As each follows different types of diplomatic views. China won't stop supporting Pakistan . India won't stop supporting Vietnam Japan US Australia SCS countries. RUSSIA won't stop supporting Vietnam and SCS countries so lines are drawn already. Those times when Russia partially control Indian foreign policy are long gone. Today Russians have more control over Chinese policies than with Indians. China needs Russia for military tech and military support incase of was with US at SCS. But if India went to war with China we have several other options than Russia? Though Russian assistance and partially towards India will be sensed

Russia is again become a leader. Congratulation for Mr. Ivan.:cheers:

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Russia must get back to its core principles of becoming a global power. As of now China is inching towards taking that part replacing Russia?
 
It's true all three are powerful in their region and of course willing to become more powerful globally. But I don't think it's gonna affect our bilateral ties with US Japan or Vietnam. As each follows different types of diplomatic views. China won't stop supporting Pakistan . India won't stop supporting Vietnam Japan US Australia SCS countries. RUSSIA won't stop supporting Vietnam and SCS countries so lines are drawn already. Those times when Russia partially control Indian foreign policy are long gone. Today Russians have more control over Chinese policies than with Indians. China needs Russia for military tech and military support incase of was with US at SCS. But if India went to war with China we have several other options than Russia? Though Russian assistance and partially towards India will be sensed

I think what is significant is to meet across the basic ideational lines supported by growing economic interaction. By basic ideational lines, I mean the principles of non-interference which, in fact, China constructed along with India as early as 1950s. I guess these ideas are well and functioning today, mostly, in the policies of these major powers.

Geopolitical lines are not that firmly drawn, I believe -- at least not as clearly as you state. We, for once, do not perceive Russia to be supporting any SCS actors at the cost of China's major interests. In the same manner, China's traditional friendship with Ukraine does not impinge upon Russia's strategic goals.

Small steps here and there won't alter the big picture -- that there emerges slowly an alternative order in Eurasia which does not necessarily take the US as the primordial enemy, but, which also does not subscribe to its vision of the world.
 
Also, I would say that Chinese netizens shouldn't be so distrustful of the U.S. A healthy relationship without conflicts between the U.S, Russia and China would by itself make global peace much more feasible. People should top believing all the internet conspiracy crap about the U.S.

It's not really a conspiracy though.

The USA is used to being the sole superpower, the gobal hegemon. They don't want to lose their position, nobody wants to lose their position, that's just human nature.

They see China in particular as an indicator that their unipolar world is soon coming to an end, in favor of a new multipolar world system.

In fact it's not just China, the transmission of modern technology means that the entire world is becoming more developed, which means that America's "relative power" compared to the rest is on a steady decline.

Everything is relative as they say. The rise of other powers in the world means that America's relative power is declining. That's something they will have to get used to, since the rest of the world isn't going to stop developing just because America wants to keep the world unipolar. It's inevitable, but the guy at the top never wants to give up his crown.
 
No its direct to China as "there is still some time left , settle the disputes and make peace. Don't force us to become your enemy which will be disastrous to both"


And how can you trust a nation which invaded your state


Oh so Chinese are stabilizing us??


Oh so Chinese are stabilizing us??
If India is to give up colonialism, do not threaten Nepal, Sri Lanka annexation of Bangladesh. Give up the UK "McMahon line". To the territory of China. We will become very good friends.
 
It's not really a conspiracy though.

The USA is used to being the sole superpower, the gobal hegemon. They don't want to lose their position, nobody wants to lose their position, that's just human nature.

They see China in particular as an indicator that their unipolar world is soon coming to an end, in favor of a new multipolar world system.

In fact it's not just China, the transmission of modern technology means that the entire world is becoming more developed, which means that America's "relative power" compared to the rest is on a steady decline.

Everything is relative as they say. The rise of other powers in the world means that America's relative power is declining. That's something they will have to get used to, since the rest of the world isn't going to stop developing just because America wants to keep the world unipolar. It's inevitable, but the guy at the top never wants to give up his crown.

Nobody wants to lose their position.. That's true...
However, the amount of conspiracy theories that place the U.S as the sole big bad guy are simply ludicrous. It's mostly tin-foil hat stuff. I'm not saying that the U.S doesn't want to be the remain the most powerful country in the world. That' only natural like you said.
But, going by the very same logic, China is also moving towards the same path? Don't you agree? As you become bigger and more powerful, you demand more and want to topple the U.S.

I'm just saying that escalating the situation further isn't going to sort out things and that both sides need to be understanding, make concessions etc. That being said, I do see a more peaceful world in the future where China plays a big role.

India, as such, is a relatively small fish (no matter what internet fanboys say) and will largely remain confined to south Asia. We might be more active in peacekeeping operations and global economic and security activities but I do not ever see us initiating something large enough to put the big powers at loggerheads. Just a stabilising role.
 
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Russians and Chinese knows the real policy of India .You are absolutely right .Diplomatic tussle between India and US is the best example of that .We wont trust them .How can we whole heartedly support a nation that sent a CBG to threaten us ?
US will always like the degradation of Asian powers ,so that they can take advantage from it . But India or China cant afford of the degradation of their neighbours .



We also knows that .But we cant provoke them unnecessarily .Perhaps Russia or China can do that because they are in much better but we are not.But still we will follow that independent policy.
Freemasonry plot is obvious. Do not allow any non Anglo-Saxon countries threatens him. China and India are small contradiction. But USA is trying to expand his. Weak to China and India. Because the USA was concerned about the rise of the two countries.
 
If India is to give up colonialism, do not threaten Nepal, Sri Lanka annexation of Bangladesh. Give up the UK "McMahon line". To the territory of China. We will become very good friends.
Dude just learn the damn English and get lost (the reason you are here)
 
Of course it will excercise more influence in the future. India is better with Russia and China than USA. Uncle Sam is no happy with it to the extreme.
F*ck the US, they are only interested in ruling the world unchallenged.

+ Russia seems like an odd inclusion, they are on a downward spiral and will drag any "grouping" like "G3" down- just like BRICS has become toothless with the BRS elements sinking at an alarming rate.

China shall respect India's rights in Indian Ocean, and contra versa. I would rather believe India than USA. I hope India could keep certain distance with USA, which render India to excercise more influence in the multi pillar world.


Indians don't trust Uncle Sam in their deep side of heart, neither do China and Russia. If China and India can tick out the border problem, it will improve the bilateral relationship. The trick Uncle Sam played is to stir up the relationship between Asians and take advantage of it. India now is adopting a balance foreign policy between China and USA. Modi is smart. Now Russia perform as bridge between China and India, it's a good sign.

The current visit paid to China by Mr Parrikar is a. Strong signal sent out by Modi government that: India is no ones puppet. It sure win China's respect, and China will also redefine the relationship with India.
India and China need to settle their petty issues, together they can do incredible things together and the West will do everything in their power to prevent this.

Divide and rule, divide and rule- that is the West's playbook, I hope the leaders of these two Asian giants do not make it easy for them.

India sees itself as a "superior" state to China and Russia, they have already picked their side when they signed the Logistical Support Agreement with the United States. They are now officially engaged.
India has signed nothing of the sort, such intellectual dishonesty. What has been signed is an MoU on a watered down LSA(it is not even called that anymore as the Indian side has changed it so much). Nothing is agreed, nothing is settled.

One thing is for sure, Pakistanis will hate this G3 idea and will tell all sorts of lies to disrupt it.
 
But First we need to know our real enemies
And Unipolar, bipolar, multipolar are pure nonsense
A multipolar world is more unstable and there are more chances of conflict of interests and wars
Bullshit. Don't know why you like America to control the whole world (media, internet, etc). Inferiority complex?
 
Bullshit. Don't know why you like America to control the whole world (media, internet, etc). Inferiority complex?
Dont try to fool yourself
Look at what Chin is doing in SCS and to your country
yourChina love is not going to change anything
 
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