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The financial power of Italy

Some like to brag here about their oh so "mighty" countries and i was amazed today to realize how weak some who think they are sooo powerful are...

The richest city in Italy is Milano. Which is also the world capital of fashion.

The GDP of the city of Milano in 2016 was €532 billion which is equivalent to US $633 billion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Milan

Now lets compare the italian city Milano with nations like Iran...

The entire nation of Iran in 2016 had a GDP of 393,4 billion $. Which means the city of Milano has an economy 1.6 times bigger than entire Iran.

Turkey fares a bit better with an GDP of 857.7 billion $. But in perspective the city of Milano reaches 74% of the economy of entire Turkey.

Now can someone explain to me how a country like Iran with 80 million people...can have a weaker economy than a single city with 1.3 million inhabitants?

@raptor22 @damm1t @Hack-Hook @mohsen @Kaptaan @waz @Vergennes

That article meant the GDP of the entire Lombardy region and not just Milan. Milan has 1.3 million population and GDP is around 80 billion US dollars.

Dude - no offence but you need to study mathematics a bit more. PM me if you need help in any areas.
 
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This dichotomy between GDP of Iran vesus Italy is even to certain extent visible in UK. Does a person on £100k salary in London better off in absolute terms then somebody in the north on say £50k. I would say £50k in north is better off in real terms then £100k in London. The £100k earner will come home and struggle to find parking space outside his terraced house. Whereas in north the £50 earner will chill and drive into his driveway. Park up to chirping birds. My sister in law works at easyjet and has huge salary (by northern standards) but her living standard is not something I would exchange the extra £££s for.
 
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Some like to brag here about their oh so "mighty" countries and i was amazed today to realize how weak some who think they are sooo powerful are...

The richest city in Italy is Milano. Which is also the world capital of fashion.

The GDP of the city of Milano in 2016 was €532 billion which is equivalent to US $633 billion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Milan

Now lets compare the italian city Milano with nations like Iran...

The entire nation of Iran in 2016 had a GDP of 393,4 billion $. Which means the city of Milano has an economy 1.6 times bigger than entire Iran.

Turkey fares a bit better with an GDP of 857.7 billion $. But in perspective the city of Milano reaches 74% of the economy of entire Turkey.

Now can someone explain to me how a country like Iran with 80 million people...can have a weaker economy than a single city with 1.3 million inhabitants?

@raptor22 @damm1t @Hack-Hook @mohsen @Kaptaan @waz @Vergennes

Comparing countries’ GDP on nominal basis does not show the true picture of their well being because workers are paid lot less for their effort in dollar terms.

If you compare GDP calculated based on Purchasing Power Parity things will appear different. This GDP is calculated on the basis of how much a worker can buy for the dollar earned. For example if it costs $1/- for a cup of coffee in Milan whereas in Iran you can buy a cup of coffee for 50 cents, GDP of Iran is actually double when calculated on PP basis. According to the latest IMF figure GDP of Iran is $1.6 trillion.

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China[n 1] 23,122,027
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European Union
[n 2] 20,852,702
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United States 19,362,129
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India 9,446,789
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Japan 5,405,072
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Germany 4,149,573
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Russia 4,000,096
7
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Indonesia 3,242,966
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Brazil 3,219,129
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United Kingdom 2,880,254
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France 2,826,456
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Mexico 2,406,087
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Italy 2,307,073
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Turkey 2,132,717
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South Korea 2,026,651
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Saudi Arabia 1,789,264
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Spain 1,768,574
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Canada 1,763,785
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Iran 1,630,859

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)
 
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Some like to brag here about their oh so "mighty" countries and i was amazed today to realize how weak some who think they are sooo powerful are...

The richest city in Italy is Milano. Which is also the world capital of fashion.

The GDP of the city of Milano in 2016 was €532 billion which is equivalent to US $633 billion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Milan

Now lets compare the italian city Milano with nations like Iran...

The entire nation of Iran in 2016 had a GDP of 393,4 billion $. Which means the city of Milano has an economy 1.6 times bigger than entire Iran.

Turkey fares a bit better with an GDP of 857.7 billion $. But in perspective the city of Milano reaches 74% of the economy of entire Turkey.

Now can someone explain to me how a country like Iran with 80 million people...can have a weaker economy than a single city with 1.3 million inhabitants?

@raptor22 @damm1t @Hack-Hook @mohsen @Kaptaan @waz @Vergennes

Resistance economy model :
In this economy model you try to keep your money value low . why ? because you are in economic war you need to keep building domestic products to reduce imports . how we can detect which countries are in economic wars ?
you can separate countries in different groups and models . but I like to show current world order like this :
group 1 : west alliance ( US + EU + Korea and Japan plus few middle eastern countries with more than 60% of world GDP )
group 2 : countries that have serious issues with team 1
group 3 : naturals

I put Iran in group 2 based on our activities after revolution . being in every group has unique futures for a country .
for example in Iran's case we have freedom to choose outside dictated policies of team 1 .and for every action there is a reaction :angel: . that's not something the main policy makers of group 1 would like to see since they don't like competition and they are happy with current world order .

http://statisticstimes.com/economy/gdp-nominal-vs-gdp-ppp.php

We are 7th country in world in case of GDP-nom/GDP-PPP =3.537
now lets take a look at Italy( team 1 ) : rank 161 Italy GDP-nom/GDP-PPP 1.196

why there is a huge difference between us ? Iran's resistance economy model or I would say devaluing money policy to counter threats from outside .in this model our ppl pay more for lower quality products are made in Iran but in return it helps our industry grows faster .

you can see similar numbers from group 1 0.7 to 1.5 at GDP-nom/GDP-PPP ratio since they don't feel threat or simply they don't care about threats withing their group and outside .
so being in group 1 is not a bad thing from the economic point of view even some countries tried to join that club ( Turkey case ) .but some countries are more greedy in international arena and want mooooaaaar

high risk high reward , low risk low reward

Which one is safer bet ?
I don't know , what would you do if you were a world leader ?
 
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And that Turkey has only 26% higher GDP than Milano is also because sanctions?

War on terror, minority problems, refugee crisis, civil war at neighborhood, regional disputes.. Oh and a failed coup attempt ?.. Turkish economy grows app. %5-%7 annually despite all of those negativesness around it.

On the other hand Italy just enjoys being in the middle of crisis-free region. And aftermath when you figure out Italy is just x2 bigger economy than Turkey, you realise that Italy totally SUCKS for an European country with no real challenge... Wake up dude, you guys doing terrible job.

Ultra low fertility rate- %1.35
Growing poor population- ( reached to 5 million in 2016 )
Ultra low & Minus growing economy- %0.4

When you look from other side of the medallion it doesn't look so bright, does it?
 
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War on terror, minority problems, refugee crisis, civil war at neighborhood, regional disputes.. Oh and a failed coup attempt ?.. Turkish economy grows app. %5-%7 annually despite all of those negativesness around it.

On the other hand Italy just enjoys being in the middle of crisis-free region. And aftermath when you figure out Italy is just x2 bigger economy than Turkey, you realise that Italy totally SUCKS for an European country with no real challenge... Wake up dude, you guys doing terrible job.

Ultra low fertility rate- %1.35
Growing poor population- ( reached to 5 million in 2016 )
Ultra low & Minus growing economy- %0.4

When you look from other side of the medallion it doesn't look so bright, does it?

Italy is so shit that you bought your brand new attack helicopter from them and market it as your own invention ;)

Italys main problem is in my eyes the Mafia which already has a deep impact in local politic south of Rom....
 
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Some like to brag here about their oh so "mighty" countries and i was amazed today to realize how weak some who think they are sooo powerful are...

The richest city in Italy is Milano. Which is also the world capital of fashion.

The GDP of the city of Milano in 2016 was €532 billion which is equivalent to US $633 billion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Milan

Now lets compare the italian city Milano with nations like Iran...

The entire nation of Iran in 2016 had a GDP of 393,4 billion $. Which means the city of Milano has an economy 1.6 times bigger than entire Iran.

Turkey fares a bit better with an GDP of 857.7 billion $. But in perspective the city of Milano reaches 74% of the economy of entire Turkey.

Now can someone explain to me how a country like Iran with 80 million people...can have a weaker economy than a single city with 1.3 million inhabitants?

@raptor22 @damm1t @Hack-Hook @mohsen @Kaptaan @waz @Vergennes
when you manage to brainwash people that your crappy fashions have anything better than domestic products,
then you can produce a $1 worth dress, label it $100 and there are enough fools among 7 billion people to buy it!
after that, you can brag about your superior economy.
 
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Iran is great country. It's history is probably more illustrious then most if not all countries. Who has not heard of Cyrus, Darius etc. The ruins of Persepolis alluded to a empire that once stood from Thrace in Europe to Indus in South Asia.

However they have gotten the mullah curse. That means the entire country gifted with bright people, with high literacy and scientific pool is held hostage to mullah politics. The Yanks have Iran more sanctioned then a serial murderer in Sweden. The result is the countries economy is in state of arrest and undevalued.

Going back to GDP we must keep in mind lot of enumeration is based on demand or assumptive valuation. My sister in law came to visit me. Our house is worth about £300k in North of England. She is from London. She told me the same house would cost £3 million in London. But it would be same house, my 'enjoyment' of it would be same, my utility of it would be same. But in London it would cost £3 million.

Therefore the valuation of anything is not entirely some fixed intrinsic value but has to do with geo-politics and international trading order.

I dont see it that way. Evry country gets the leadership it deserves. Its Irans own fault to have the mullah regime.

As for Irans history, i think we both can agree, that greece, rome and egypt shine far brighter than iran. I would say that china and sumeria also reached a far higher level.

when you manage to brainwash people that your crappy fashions have anything better than domestic products,
then you can produce a $1 worth dress, label it $100 and there are enough fools among 7 billion people to buy it!
after that, you can brag about your superior economy.

Irans economic weakness is disturbing. Do you consider Lambo and Ferarri also as crappy fashion? Many of your mullahs sons drive Ferrari.

War on terror, minority problems, refugee crisis, civil war at neighborhood, regional disputes.. Oh and a failed coup attempt ?.. Turkish economy grows app. %5-%7 annually despite all of those negativesness around it.

On the other hand Italy just enjoys being in the middle of crisis-free region. And aftermath when you figure out Italy is just x2 bigger economy than Turkey, you realise that Italy totally SUCKS for an European country with no real challenge... Wake up dude, you guys doing terrible job.

Ultra low fertility rate- %1.35
Growing poor population- ( reached to 5 million in 2016 )
Ultra low & Minus growing economy- %0.4

When you look from other side of the medallion it doesn't look so bright, does it?

Our economy grows by 0.9%.

We need less fertility. We are overpopulated. The last thing earth needs is more humans. Thats the ideology of the cancer cell. The ideal population for Italy is 50 million. Same counts for Turkey btw.
 
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I knew a guy who was a VP for Lamborghini. He told his fellow directors that the equivalent Mercedes was half the price and a far better car. It is sold purely on its Italian design status.

Times are changing; the emerging economies will consign many European 'Great Powers' to the dustbin of history.
 
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I knew a guy who was a VP for Lamborghini. He told his fellow directors that the equivalent Mercedes was half the price and a far better car. It is sold purely on its Italian design status.

Times are changing; the emerging economies will consign many European 'Great Powers' to the dustbin of history.

Do you also know a guy who was a VP of a car maker from any non european luxury car maker? Oh sorry i forgot. There are none. :D
 
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Irans economic weakness is disturbing. Do you consider Lambo and Ferarri also as crappy fashion? Many of your mullahs sons drive Ferrari.
Iran's backwardness is due to the corrupted Iranian kings and plots and coups of Europeans during past centuries.
That course changed for good after Islamic revolution.

I didn't say industry, but my example matches the existance of your Ferrari and Lambo, the very same brainwashed people will pay for such a products.
and the number of theose brainwashed is the least among the children of our mullahs (if any exist).
 
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It's called Japan.


You now call Japan an emerging economy? :D

There are not many nations as deeply part of the west as Japan.

The West: USA, EU, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Canada, New Zealand aka Masters of the Universe
 
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You now call Japan an emerging economy? :D

There are not many nations as deeply part of the west as Japan.

The West: USA, EU, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Canada, New Zealand aka Masters of the Universe

Obviously Geography is not your strong point. Look at the map.
So when any country becomes successful it automatically becomes western?
 
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