The Fight against PKK Terrorism

[Glass]

yeah like send a drone above them. After alll drones are very cheap- someone should write that to tsk defintive.

some of these akp shitheads are a huge threat to the turkish state

 

[Otonom Piyade]

Yeah you don't know with whom you are dealing with.. many ppl here seem to live in their own brain cloud not facing the truth

No education system and no military will solve the problem..

You solve it with hard punishment with propaganda that begins in the kindergarden and ends when they go to bed from gazette to TV Internet own servers who dictate our view from all government institutions to all social institutions there must be our propaganda..

And than comes the police the military the fight everywhere you have to kill them everywhere with everything let it be a car incident or poison or drone strike or a f16

Social things must be high priority give their woman rights brake the tribal thing in Wich most of them live

And the politics hunt the head of the snake don't let them grow or be a thread in your neighborhood

But still we face ppl who are very different to you and me sometimes I wonder how wrong I am underestimating the stupidity and the dullness in their brains
Let me say it this way it's easier to socialize a super hardcore gypsy

That's some extreme hardcore approach to dealing with the issue, which I don't think would yield any result.

Let's get one thing clear here... We are not fighting PKK in a solo battle.. We are fighting FOREIGN countries namely the Western/European/American or anyone else for that matter like Iran, perhaps even Russia? whom some are meant to be our allies on paper.

They're using PKK as a proxy war against us, to keep us down from progressing as a nation.

We would need to use progressive approach to dealing with PKK in the east, let that be demographic shift in the cities, close monitoring of internet use, phone cells, gaining information of their leaders and so on...

 

[Timur]

What do you think of what main advisor of Erdogan, Tanrıverdi, has said in this subject?

He said things like education in Kurdish, an autonomous kurdish state etc to solve this so called "kurdish issue".

Yeah this is completely wrong and destructive as long as such idiots work on top of us we will have this problem not solved

That's some extreme hardcore approach

Let's get one thing clear here... We are not fighting PKK in a solo battle.. We are fighting FOREIGN countries

Than what I said is more important without own propaganda own institutions and own control over media etc the foreigner will keep fighting us This way.. Its not hardcore it's necessary..

Fighting them on every field is the best way to do it

 

[One-Above-All]

How things fall, Things on Earth. And what falls, is fallen.

 

[Kiryu]

He said things like education in Kurdish, an autonomous kurdish state etc to solve this so called "kurdish issue".

Autonomy wont solve anything. For a start how would the boundaries of an autonomous Kurdistan in Turkey be delineated? There's no historic Kurdistan to draw upon. There are millions on non Kurds in eastern Turkey too who won't accept it.
Then who will fund its budget? The region is too poor to fund its own government and civil spending. So Turkish taxpayers in the rest of Turkey will have to foot the bill.
Then what about after? They will complain that its too small or lacks enough powers, or should be free to have independence referendums. And as soon as Turkey defines a political entity called Kurdistan within its own border you then have created a political division that can be separated in the future.

 

[SouI]

Autonomy wont solve anything. For a start how would the boundaries of an autonomous Kurdistan in Turkey be delineated? There's no historic Kurdistan to draw upon. There are millions on non Kurds in eastern Turkey too who won't accept it.
Then who will fund its budget? The region is too poor to fund its own government and civil spending. So Turkish taxpayers in the rest of Turkey will have to foot the bill.
Then what about after? They will complain that its too small or lacks enough powers, or should be free to have independence referendums. And as soon as Turkey defines a political entity called Kurdistan within its own border you then have created a political division that can be separated in the future.

Dont tell that to me, I am already strictly against such ideas.

 

[GOLDENEAGLE1]

yeah like send a drone above them. After alll drones are very cheap- someone should write that to tsk defintive.

some of these akp shitheads are a huge threat to the turkish state

what's wrong with you, why are you not banned?

 

[OguzSenturk]

Autonomy means you recognise the existance of "Kurds". That is the opposite of what you supposed to do in order to crash Pan-Kurdism. There is only one solution; Education.

Teach Evolution in schools, tell students that they are all genetically homo sapiens and nothing else, teach them there is no such thing as "kurd race, arab race, çerkes race" etc.

And arrest those people who claim those fake races are exist if they are 18+ years old. You are a law state, use the power of laws.

 

[Deliorman]

@OguzSenturk , before showing your great "knowledge" in anthropology, human behavior and internal security all at once first learn the differences between the terms "race" and "ethnicity" and what they represent... Education as you suggested (it's not even needed to go to school, you can use Internet for that) can probably help a lot in your case so try it ASAP.

ps Teaching evolution and that we are all homo sapiens at school will certainly help in fighting the PKK/ PYD/ YPG/ KCK or whatever else they call themselves though. Especially when you combine it with imprisonment for everyone who claims that races such as Arab, Cerkes or a Kurdish one exist. And what if a 19 years old university student says that a Turkish race exists somewhere in public? How many years do you suggest that he should rot in jail for that crime?

 

[OguzSenturk]

ethnicity

There is no such thing as "ethnicity" in taxonomic classification. Btw i do not allow PKK scums to use my name in their posts. So behave yourself.

 

[Otonom Piyade]

Tim Deliorman, stop stalking people online.

 

[Deliorman]

There is no such thing as "ethnicity" in taxonomic classification. Btw i do not allow PKK scums to use my name in their posts. So behave yourself.

Mixing Taxonomy with Ethnography and denying the existence of races and ethnic groups is not making you look any smarter boy, so stop it already because you are embarrassing yourself. Once again I tell you to at least use Wikipedia or something before making ridiculous claims around here and denying obvious facts.

ps Do you deny the existence of the Turkish ethnicity? Answer me with "yes" or "no" and spare me your brain farts.

ps2 @Flux , don't know who are you mistaking me for but you are being paranoid. Is that guy Tim Deliorman your wives secret lover or what? Why are you so obsessed with him?

 

[OguzSenturk]

ps Do you deny the existence of the Turkish ethnicity?

I do not even recognise "ethnicity" as it's so asking me if i believe "X ethnicity" is upper autistic.

There is no such thing as "ethnicity" in taxonomic classification.

It is like asking a person that if the god wears red socks or black socks, meanwhile that guy said that he is atheist Retard.

 

[Otonom Piyade]

I think the more we instil Islam into the hearts of our Kurdish brothers in the east, the easier our problems will be solved in a short period of time. Turkey is a really ethnically diverse country with origins from far as Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Romania, Hungary to the Caucasus with Dagistani, Chechen, Tatar and to the east Azeri, Kurd, Arab or Turkmen. The unifying force that keeps us in Turkey is Islam. When Muslims were being prosecuted and slaughtered, driven out of their homes and towns in Eastern Europe, they were forced to flee their own lands and seek refuge in Turkey.

Remember our most famous Ottoman Navy Admiral Barbaros Hayrettin Pasa was of Greek origin. Ottomans managed to convert the masses into the regions they ruled to Islam by reaching out to their hearts.

This is what needs to be done in eastern Turkey in tremendous speed. Teach Islam from creche to Uni, create community programs, create youth programs, reward those who have gained knowledge with prizes etc.

We might not even carry the same blood of our Oguz ancestors that roamed from central Asia to Anatolia... but because of their passion and love for Islam, they managed to Turkify us all because of our love for Islam.

 

[Deliorman]

I do not even recognise "ethnicity" as it's so asking me if i believe "X ethnicity" is upper autistic.



It is like asking a person that if the god wears red socks or black socks, meanwhile that guy said that he is atheist Retard.