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This is why fight againts PKK is meaningless as long as AKP is in power. https://eksisozluk.com/tek-millet-dediysek-turk-milleti-demedik--5334085
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Who must be in power to fight effectively against PKK in your opinion?This is why fight againts PKK is meaningless as long as AKP is in power. https://eksisozluk.com/tek-millet-dediysek-turk-milleti-demedik--5334085
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This is great lolThat's some great news if you ask me... a bunch ot retarded commies and anarchists from around the world will go all the way to the Middle East to just get their asses wiped out in the end. I approve.
Me..Who must be in power to fight effectively against PKK in your opinion?
Me..
My first action would be hanging Öcalan and starting a de Pkk- sation program Wich would include whole society from school to mosques and TV radio gazette everyone has to obey and de Pkk the ppl.. If. Not than they will be hanged in public.. And I would minefield our borders from syria to armenia with some public and hidden entries.. But mostly I would use TV, think-tanks imams teachers and so on for anti Pkk program with full force and with obvious propaganda and with controlled opposition propaganda to direct the ppl
Good thing you are not in a positions to make this desicions. Do you aware what you are suggesting? PKK would get a tremendeus support, unseen in history. You would be dictator with that kind of opressive control. You would get a strong opposition against your oppresive measures from the people you forced go religious instutions, controlled their media. Outside support from anti-Turkey parties would reach unprecented levels thanks to you given them the excuse. Diplomatic backlash would ruin country in so many ways. All this finally causes a civil war with many parties very much like Syria. You are Esad man, you dont know it.
man I just woke up but if you are serious :
you are against erdogan but this is what he lacks.. and its the right thing to do! this mentality of "pkk would do this and that" is the mentality wich made öcalan survive! now he is sitting in a 5 star hotel and commands PKK and plays with our government,, while we are the mice and he is the fat cat.. if the dogs, would have killed him in the first place it would not be as bad as today to kill him.. also because of this mentality the cözüm süreci began..
what are you talking ? opressive measures? where are you living? this is how you control a state and how you control the ppl, and with what? with media, with imams, with teachers and with ppl in society.. that is how america runs how germany runs, the whole world runs this way.. with controlled opposition media and state propaganda.. the only dog of the world wich we can call ourselfes dont do this, we are controlled with a leash , because of wicked ppl we had in our history those dogs gave away our media and installed everywhere their european and jewish masters.. this is why we are controlled of european countries and those dogs cry if something happens to their beloved godess masters wich they worship but our struggle our pain is nothing for them.. because those kafir love other kafir you can read this..
for our society.. do you want to have imam hauptmann hans müller preaching in turkey? should imam srgt bradley preach in turkey? for their goals? or do you want to have your ppl? what do you think is required to control your media and ppl? some ppl will be influenced with news or think tanks , some with documentations and others with simple gazette.. and others will be influenced in the mosque and the best influence is in school when they are young.. direct them away from those pkk terrorists with all you have and not with only killing them in the mountains.. least will bring you nothing except more terrorists because they lost their family members..
hanging is too much for you? you are comparing me, because I want death penalty for those terrorists, with assad the firauwn of 21century who kills children and woman because of their names? and uses chemical weapons ?
@Deliorman I would build some nuclear weapons we should have the material for it.. I read some time ago we had captured from smuggler some kg of it
man I just woke up but if you are serious :
you are against erdogan but this is what he lacks.. and its the right thing to do! this mentality of "pkk would do this and that" is the mentality wich made öcalan survive! now he is sitting in a 5 star hotel and commands PKK and plays with our government,, while we are the mice and he is the fat cat.. if the dogs, would have killed him in the first place it would not be as bad as today to kill him.. also because of this mentality the cözüm süreci began..
what are you talking ? opressive measures? where are you living? this is how you control a state and how you control the ppl, and with what? with media, with imams, with teachers and with ppl in society.. that is how america runs how germany runs, the whole world runs this way.. with controlled opposition media and state propaganda.. the only dog of the world wich we can call ourselfes dont do this, we are controlled with a leash , because of wicked ppl we had in our history those dogs gave away our media and installed everywhere their european and jewish masters.. this is why we are controlled of european countries and those dogs cry if something happens to their beloved godess masters wich they worship but our struggle our pain is nothing for them.. because those kafir love other kafir you can read this..
for our society.. do you want to have imam hauptmann hans müller preaching in turkey? should imam srgt bradley preach in turkey? for their goals? or do you want to have your ppl? what do you think is required to control your media and ppl? some ppl will be influenced with news or think tanks , some with documentations and others with simple gazette.. and others will be influenced in the mosque and the best influence is in school when they are young.. direct them away from those pkk terrorists with all you have and not with only killing them in the mountains.. least will bring you nothing except more terrorists because they lost their family members..
hanging is too much for you? you are comparing me, because I want death penalty for those terrorists, with assad the firauwn of 21century who kills children and woman because of their names? and uses chemical weapons ?
@Deliorman I would build some nuclear weapons we should have the material for it.. I read some time ago we had captured from smuggler some kg of it
What we need to do is as you said, hang öcalan. But before we do that we need to launch an anti-PKK campaign online. Seriously. There's so much pro-PKK propaganda all over the internet. It's actually disturbing to say the least. Something's telling me that USA/Germany is pouring millions into this propaganda in order to create support for terrorists among their own populations and the sad thing is that it's working, a lot of leftists and rightists are now sympathising with them...
You see what the west wants is Turks to be radicalised and that's why they openly support groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir. Then what they want to do is show Turks as being terrorists shouting out 'Allahu Akbar' and make us a repeat of Iraq by protecting their precious leftist K*rds - In other words they want to pave the way for the invasion and partition of Turkey.
So along with an anti-PKK campaign we would need to crack down on Islamist hardliners as well, I'm talking about the type which are so 'religious' that they reject proper Turkish nationalism, want the removal of secularism and despise our founding father, Atatürk.
After we do both of these things (less than a month is enough for both), we can then proceed to crack down on PKK harder than ever. Find and destroy all their weapons, kill every last one of them, implement anti-propaganda measures in the southeast, hang all captured members including those who made propaganda for them and of course hang öcalan publicly.
One other thing we also need to close most NGOs as they are what enables groups like PKK to flourish, as well as being a conduit for Islamist extremism creeping into society (one example being Hizb ut-Tahrir). Be certain that America simultaneously supports NGOs which fund both PKK terrorists and Islamists.
I understand what you are saying. Doing what you are proposed would come with benefits and harm at the same time. Not doing it has benefits and harm also. I am content with low terror activity lately we are having, not giving martyrs and killing many of them. Turkey becomed one of the most experienced country against terror in the world if not the most. There may be no reason for extreme measures. I am afraid to give our enemies material for making propaganda. It seemed like i suggested full freedom of media and other institutions, i am not. There is already law forbiding "terror propaganda", it is punishible and that is a right way of doing it.
What i am most angry about our own lack of making propaganda. There are some who is working on telling the truth about terrorists. But the West doesnt wanna see it, they are bias against us, that makes all the harder. Our goverment should make a information campain with whatever we have to show world their views are very wrong about this murderers.
Why they dont know the truth? Because so called democratic West controlling their media. For this, it must be easier to see what i am trying say, how immoral and wrong to fully control information-media. If your media is known for controlled by state, you cannot make the people believe you, expecially if they are ignorant. Even if you are telling the truth they would think "ah, it is state propaganda".
I am pro-death penalty too. But it must be really good law, so it can really prevent injustices. What happens years later a new evidence came out, you cannot take back what you did because the person is dead. If make it real good in detail, it would be beneficial for this country. For now even without death penalty our security forces handling quite nicely with them. I have listened many stories from my relatives about their experience been a soldier, mainly interogations and operations they did participate, they are really getting punished, believe me.