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The Fight against PKK Terrorism

But when they return home safe and learn life can be better than been a terrorist. Former PKK recruit and him/her family rejoice. After proper education and reintraduction to society they become somewhat productive members of the society (of cource this claim is very arguable). We need them to work, invent, serve country and humanity, not be dead.

Unfortunatly when PKK take a new recruit, the first thing they to is indoctrinate them, then they make friend within in PKK, fight together, died and kill together...and they come home with a whole heard behind PKK's idealogy, convinced even their family this was not so bad, PKK's are not terrorist, freedom fighter.....

Yes maybe they will not come back to fight for PKK again, but they will have sympatie for them, and they push their own family to have sympathy for PKK too.
 
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Unfortunatly when PKK take a new recruit, the first thing they to is indoctrinate them, then they make friend within in PKK, fight together, died and kill together...and they come home with a whole heard behind PKK's idealogy, convinced even their family this was not so bad, PKK's are not terrorist, freedom fighter.....

Yes maybe they will not come back to fight for PKK again, but they will have sympatie for them, and they push their own family to have sympathy for PKK too.

Unfourtunetly you are absolutly right, unless something very negative, very personal happened to them which is caused by PKK they do act like as you descripe. They might abonden taking up arms, but they contunie to envy who do. This means i dont have solution, an answer that i like. :(

I am struggling to maintain my righteousness, they make it harder with the each other day. I am officially a soldier starting between April 25th and May 1th, hopefully for a year. Maybe i will get the change to show them how much i hate their meaningless terrorism. :sniper:
 
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Unfourtunetly you are absolutly right, unless something very negative, very personal happened to them which is caused by PKK they do act like as you descripe. They might abonden taking up arms, but they contunie to envy who do. This means i dont have solution, an answer that i like. :(

I am struggling to maintain my righteousness, they make it harder with the each other day. I am officially a soldier starting between April 25th and May 1th, hopefully for a year. Maybe i will get the change to show them how much i hate their meaningless terrorism. :sniper:


Allaha emanet ol.
 
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I too despise of their actions. But we are in this mess because politicians did treated them as monkeys and forgotten that they are human beings, when it is matters.

They must be aware their families very much underfunded because of crowdness. They work the jobs no one wants unless that person have to. First couple of children works and provide money so youngest can get education, at what cost. Most eastern anatolian owns a property, this is a priority for them according to my Kurdish friends from university. They even benefit from goverment funds which rest of the population cant. Too big of a number of them still using stolen electricity and rest of the population pays it (yes literally we pay, for the foreigners who dont know Turkey, you see it in the bill openly).

Yes they gain numbers, more votes, more powers, ability to make their voice heard more but in the end by doing these acts as combined they end up with no honour, no prestige.

Lets say they achived their goal of creating a country. How are they gonna tell their history to the children, there is no heroism. They bomb, they ambush. they sell drugs, they traffic prostitutes, they stole electricity, much of their real power comes from outside support, while having many children they create less then what it should been.

In the end PKK should not have support by not getting us in their trap of dividing Turks and Kurds by racial conflict. We must adapt, we are getting there, our country have much experience. They cannot win, they will get decimated, they can only stop us when we have pity for their very much undeserved demands, not the one they actually have rights.

Note: My mother's father side is settled to Kütahya with Germiyonoğlu tripe as parts of Oğuz Avşar Tripe (Ömers subtripe). My mother's mother side is a mix of Gajjar Turkmen and Cherkez from eastern Thrace. Father side is completely Bosnian. After second Vienna Siege failed they migrated to Salonika (Selanik, tessalonika) in fear muslims will be slaughtered. And with the WW1 they escaped war again inside Anatolia, Sultan gave them villages in Kütahya. So this make me as genetics dictates possibly a south Slav and Illyrian mix which means i am not a Turk, except i do not know any other culture and language other then Turkish. I see Turkish culture supperior to others, it is my choice. When i see comments like "Turkey is for the Turks, Turks are the supperior race" (i am exaggerating) i get really offended. My ancestors did fight for this country in many wars which i can prove some of it. So it is my duty to keep their legacy in very best shape that includes dont calling other races monkeys.

You can call terrorist anything you want they deserve it.

Without necessarily taking sides, let me say that you underestimate the power of population. A few decades down the line, all it'll take is a spark from those who are not drug traffickers and degenerates.
 
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Without necessarily taking sides, let me say that you underestimate the power of population. A few decades down the line, all it'll take is a spark from those who are not drug traffickers and degenerates.
Yes,when the population is oppressed like you think it is but,it is not like that.
There is no oppression,equal rights for all,intermariages are common(at least 10 million)most Kurds dont care for independence,they are a part of the Turkish society.
Thats why it is important to go and see for yourself,if you can.
The western media makes us look bad because of the current governments geo political mistakes and statements.
 
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Yes,when the population is oppressed like you think it is but,it is not like that.
There is no oppression,equal rights for all,intermariages are common(at least 10 million)most Kurds dont care for independence,they are a part of the Turkish society.
Thats why it is important to go and see for yourself,if you can.
The western media makes us look bad because of the current governments geo political mistakes and statements.

You're right about mainstream Kurds. I know how assimilated they're.
(Edit: You don't mean mainstream Kurds when you say drug-prostitute traffickers, do you? Of course not.)
But I'm talking about this:

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How much of that do you consider to be assimilated?
 
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You're right about mainstream Kurds. I know how assimilated they're.
But I'm talking about this:

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How much of that do you consider to be assimilated?

I could counter argue. Germany is a dying etnic nation. 50 % of inhabitants are Polish, Russian, Ukraiian, Balkan Dutch, French , Scandinavian African and Asian origin.
In 2050 there will be only 30 % Germans left in good old Germany.
 
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You're right about mainstream Kurds. I know how assimilated they're.
But I'm talking about this:

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How much of that do you consider to be assimilated?

Of the 80 million population, lets say 60 million Turkish 20 million Kurdish (west exaggerates their number 12-15 million max). 60 million growing %2 is bigger then 20 million growing %4-6-8-10. Also because of PKK eastern Anatolia couldnt grow it's infrastructure, recently that is started to change, some cities called Anatolian Lions as a group by economists, they will be more happy and content, when country is at stake they wave Turkish flags. Kurds with higher sense of honour also is againts PKK. When PKK atempted to capture towns in Anatolia they did mistreated locals, they know them better then us. Only time majority would take side with them is when stuation in Turkey is unberable.

@1683 It is easy to fool the world saying muslims are violent, how are they gonna get rid nonmuslim others. They cannot find an excuse without making themselfs nazis again.
 
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People should inform themselves better instead of going on pkk websites or using pkk fanboys made pictures to somehow show something that will never happen. I have enough of these wanna be turkey experts who don't have a clue what they are talking about and the only source they have are fascists kurds who live in europe.
 
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People should inform themselves better instead of going on pkk websites or using pkk fanboys made pictures to somehow show something that will never happen. I have enough of these wanna be turkey experts who don't have a clue what they are talking about and the only source they have are fascists kurds who live in europe.

News provided by PKK for Europians says they kill 60 Turkish soldier on every attemp. Makes me laugh my a_s_s off. Complete idiots whom ever believes it.
 
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I could counter argue. Germany is a dying etnic nation. 50 % of inhabitants are Polish, Russian, Ukraiian, Balkan Dutch, French , Scandinavian African and Asian origin.
In 2050 there will be only 30 % Germans left in good old Germany.

That is true, but most Germans are okay with that. Not to mention "Whites" would still be the majority. Only a handful Germans care about ethnic purity in 2017 itself.
Would Turks be okay with a similar situation? Would you introduce Kurdish language in more schools?
Would you approve of a plethora of schools in the East teaching in Kurdish to accommodate the huge Kurdish % of population, in say 2050?

In Germany, it's immigrants.
In Turkey, not so.
A civilizationally advanced organic people can't be pushed into another language and culture in "their own" place.
(At least without mass killing. Even that's not guaranteed.)
 
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That is true, but most Germans are okay with that. Not to mention "Whites" would still be the majority. Only a handful Germans care about ethnic purity in 2017 itself.
Would Turks be okay with a similar situation? Would you introduce Kurdish language in more schools?
Would you approve of a plethora of schools in the East teaching in Kurdish to accommodate the huge Kurdish % of population, in say 2050?

In Germany, it's immigrants.
In Turkey, not so.
A civilizationally advanced organic people can't be pushed into another language and culture in "their own" place.

First 4 articles of our constitution eleminates this problem that you mention.

ARTICLE 3.
- The Turkish State is an indivisible piece with its country and nation. Language is Turkish.

The flag is specified in the law of shape, the white moon star is on red background.

National anthem is "İstiklal anthem".

The capital is Ankara.

ARTICLE 4.
- The provision of Article 1 of the Constitution that the State shall be the Republic, and the provisions of Article 2 of the Republic and the provisions of Article 3 cannot be changed or proposed to be changed.

There is no peacefull-political way for them to get what they want. In case of trying to take what they want with force will result as you can guess, of slaughter of their armed individuals.

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Poisonous giant spiders were found in the terrorist operation.
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The gendarmerie teams came out of the storage containers in a terrorist operation in Sancaktepe, where they organized a house and compared them with 15 spiders for being dangerous.
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The Istanbul Provincial Gendarmerie teams organized an operation in A.D's house in Sancaktepe, which is determined to be a praiseworthy sharing of terror and terrorist organizations on social media platforms.
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Tarantulalarının, a person in a 30-minute killer in the stalemate that they are poisoned authorities, stating that the first time in Istanbul, such as living organisms have been captured. A.D. was arrested on charges of making propaganda for a terrorist organization in the social media.

Note: F_u_c_k google translate.:mad: It was working better before they take it down temporarly today.
 
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There is no such thing as "kurdish race" on earth. All Turkish citizen's genetic definition is Homo Saphiens, and homo saphiens make up %100 of the Turkish Nation.

You are basicly tring to make up one artificial race as "Kurds" in your mind, categorising them as "different living form" than rest of the Homo Sapiens in Turkish Nation, then you are tring to legalise demanding right for that non-exist kurdish people.

Can you imagine how stupid it does sound to other people? According to Treaty of Lausanne, there is no minority among Turkish Nation. All Homo Sapien ethnic Turkish Citizens are equal in front of the Laws and Constitution.
 
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