The Fight against PKK Terrorism

[kartal1]

Iraq is first for us, DEASH almost finished and we has good relationships with Iran-Russia-Central government of Iraq. US nothing to do at Iraq anymore, thats why we can take many actions over there, when we solve Iraq problem we can focus on Syria i think.

If we wanna be strong at Syria we have to be capture Afrin, Menbic and Idlib then we can be say somethings at the table about PYD otherwise it would be very hard situation for us.

Idlib yes Afrin maybe Menbic no. For Afrin we will never capture the city itself because of the tensions coming from the local people. The best we can do there is surround and cut it off by capturing Tal Rifat and the area bordering Idlib. I dont believe we can act in Menbic because Menbic is the operational center of US in the west of Euphrates. Very strategic point with one word. If we capture Menbic that means US losing authority over Eastern Aleppo and possible Euphrates Shield territory. They have very critical assets there as special operation forces that are ready do act when needed. They just cant afford it. If they lose it from where are they going to act without revealing the possible covert operation? The road from Al Thawrah is long enough.

 

[OguzSenturk]

For Afrin we will never capture the city itself because of the tensions coming from the local people.

Oh yes we will not let PKK to hold any land in Syria, so that means we will surely capture city itself. Who the fck cares local people? They will run to Aleppo when bombs start to fall, or they will die.

 

[kartal1]

Oh yes we will not let PKK to hold any land in Syria, so that means we will surely capture city itself. Who the fck cares local people? They will run to Aleppo when bombs start to fall, or they will die.

To bad the things dont work like that. The image of the TSK is bad enough and we cant let their propaganda to get more roots and reason to rise. As we know we dont have proper propaganda and anti propaganda and they will just humiliate us on that matter. Let alone the international pressure terrorists will receive all kinds of support from the locals. Harakat Al Qayam will be a heaven in front of their movements. We cant protect our soldiers and they are being martyred on the streets within our borders what about Afrin one of the capitals of the Kurdish rebellion and terrorism and one of the most anti Turkish cities in Syria. Tal Rifat and the bordering areas with Idlib are enough. They must depend on our mercy. You cant prevent the presence of PKK at the moment.
Edit: If you think we will rush to Ain Al Arab, Qamishli, Afrin I think you didnt understand that our stupid government made so critical mistakes in the past that now we depend on the mercy of Russia. Northern Syria is full of US bases and centers. What will you do? I want to bomb the hell out of them to but lets get to reality. The group called SDF will receive US and other foreign support untill its purpose is finished.

 

[OguzSenturk]

To bad the things dont work like that.

It worked in Al-Bab, Raqqa, Tal-Abyad, Hasaka, Mosul, Kirkuk, basicly it worked everywhere in Iraq and Syria.

It will work like a clock in Afrin as well.

 

[kartal1]

It worked in Al-Bab, Raqqa, Tal-Abyad, Hasaka, Mosul, Kirkuk, basicly it worked everywhere in Iraq and Syria.

It will work like a clock in Afrin as well.

Worked against who my friend? DEASH! SDF is not DEASH. SDF is the prostitute of Syria that every side needs in order to press us. Turkey is not USA or Russia lets not overestimate our position.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Worked against who my friend? DEASH! SDF is not DEASH.

I am talking about local population, not terror organisations. Where were ISIS in Kirkuk? Iraqi Army captured Kirkuk from Peshmerga (without even fighting) and Pan-Kurdist population left the city in next 12 hours even though there were no threat towards them

That is how things work, when you capture somewhere with military means, population against you run away. Only population that likes you stay there.

 

[kartal1]

I am talking about local population, not terror organisations. Where were ISIS in Kirkuk? Iraqi Army captured Kirkuk from Peshmerga (without even fighting) and Pan-Kurdist population left the city in next 12 hours even though there were no threat towards them

That is how things work, when you capture somewhere with military means, population against you run away. Only population that likes you stay there.

The population of Afrin is estimated around 1.000.000? Where are they going to go? I prefer besiege them and control every goods that is entering the city. The world will tear us up accusing us in genocide, occupation and so on. Our image is already bad. You sound like you believed on every word this government said regarding the issue. If we are going to think like that We invaded Afrin 10 times Manbic 15 and even we invaded Raqqa atleast 5 times. We destroyed Kandil at least 15 times trough the years. 82 Musul 83 Kerkuk 84 Duzce. We threatened the Iraqi Army that we will enter Tal Afar even the PMU that took Tal Afar with Turken brigades. Dont make me laugh. They dont have the balls to do anything just empty words. As I said PKK will end soon but to invade whole Northern Syria..... come on!

 

[[TR]AHMET]

Idlib yes Afrin maybe Menbic no. For Afrin we will never capture the city itself because of the tensions coming from the local people. The best we can do there is surround and cut it off by capturing Tal Rifat and the area bordering Idlib. I dont believe we can act in Menbic because Menbic is the operational center of US in the west of Euphrates. Very strategic point with one word. If we capture Menbic that means US losing authority over Eastern Aleppo and possible Euphrates Shield territory. They have very critical assets there as special operation forces that are ready do act when needed. They just cant afford it. If they lose it from where are they going to act without revealing the possible covert operation? The road from Al Thawrah is long enough.

ME long and bloody chest so time show us exact progresses. If Afrin can be captured, Manbij possible because US give us many promises about Manbij, thats why we can take some actions over there, it is all about how our government make pressure on US.

Believe me when DEASH removed from ME US will get many trouble thats why Israel in hurry novadays...

Eveything will be possible next days for Turkey.

 

[OguzSenturk]

The population of Afrin is estimated around 1.000.000?

Lmao that is biggest bullshit ever, you probably read this in PKK outlet and.. did you just believe it in that moment?

Afrin's Pre-Civil War population is 155.000. Recently, there were elections in PKK-held Northern Syria, and total population was 1.7million (including Afrin)

By your logic, there are only 700.000 people in Ayn Al-Arab, Tal-Abyad, Qamishli, Hasakah, Raqqah, Ayn Issa, Manbij and rest 1million is in Afrin?

There are maximum 100.000 population in/around Afrin and that is the maximum limit.

 

[kartal1]

Lmao that is biggest bullshit ever, you probably read this in PKK outlet and.. did you just believe it in that moment?

Afrin's Pre-Civil War population is 155.000. Recently, there were elections in PKK-held Northern Syria, and total population was 1.7million (including Afrin)

By your logic, there are only 700.000 people in Ayn Al-Arab, Tal-Abyad, Qamishli, Hasakah, Raqqah, Ayn Issa, Manbij and rest 1million is in Afrin?

There are maximum 100.000 population in/around Afrin and that is the maximum limit.

Excuse me 100.000. What about the other points?

 

[OguzSenturk]

There is no other point. Few months ago, PKK in Afrin killed one of our border troop with sniper rifle, and then they attacked our border post with 2 ATGMs and we gave another shehid there.

We have enough casus belli to clear PKK scum there, and if you have reason to interfere international community (what i mean is Governments around the world) will not say anything against us, but stay silent if they don't support us.

Maybe few communist scum will go rally in Berlin and Paris, like they did for Kirkuk

 

[kartal1]

There is no other point. Few months ago, PKK in Afrin killed one of our border troop with sniper rifle, and then they attacked our border post with 2 ATGMs and we gave another shehid there.

We have enough casus belli to clear PKK scum there, and if you have reason to interfere international community (what i mean is Governments around the world) will not say anything against us, but stay silent if they don't support us.

Maybe few communist scum will go rally in Berlin and Paris, like they did for Kirkuk

Lets first clean Kandil and if God said lets clean Sinjar. Then we will think for Northern Syria but I am pessimistic. With those losers in the government when they say good day I am looking if its night actually. Their lies and empty threats are disgusting. And while looking at their foreign politics and how they can use the perfect opportunities its lost cause. For the time we act when we shot down the Russian jet bombing our people in Turkish airspace they licked Russian booty like crazy. I cant even imagine how we are entering Ain Al Arab . Russian *** was not enough and I will have to be ashamed by licking US booty as well. With people like this its a lost cause... Even now as a Turk I have to explain to some people in my area how we are strong how we are not sucking world powers and how we dont kill the Kurds and only defend our interests. But NO! 82 Musul 83 Kerkuk 84 Duzce...... We cant move even our finger without the knowledge of the Russians. If we do something it will be at the end of the conflict with Russian bless. Dont expect anything from our side individually.

 

[Nurhak40]

Oguz you dont understand the consequences for us will. Be if we start bombing the center of afrin. It will be so bad at international level. I know i also want to bomb the hell out of that place but we are too late in thr war for that. What we can do is start bombing the borders of afrin and let the western media do its job but we will get used to it because it will be some villages that got bombed. But after few months we need to bomb more to the inner core of afrin. It need to go slowly to the center until we are litterally bombing the center of afrin. The media already then made the bad propaganda about us and it will make no difference anymore.
We need to do like the US. Slowly start bombing from borders and withing lile 1.5 year we should bomb the city itself. And hen capture it.

 

[OguzSenturk]

We cannot just leave them there while they will keep killing soldiers. Kandil mountain is faaar way mountainous and larger area than Afrin.

Be if we start bombing the center of afrin. It will be so bad at international level.

How you guys become that fearful wtf Nothing will happen, because until we reach Afrin center, we could already captured 100 villages around Afrin, and people in Afrin will be already left the city.

That is what happened in Al-Bab. We literally flattened Al-Bab, see anything happens?

At least few communist scum will rally in EU capitals and brag like "save the Kurdss, #NoFlyZoneForRojava" etc and thats it.

 

[Nurhak40]

I know we should have to do it but if it can without that much negativity it will be better. But about el bab we didnt flattened whole of el bab it was mostly some part of it. First of all those guy were arabs and isis was there so the west didnt care. Also isis made drone footage propaganda they made as if whole of al bab was flattened but it wasnt. You didnt fell for that propaganda did you? But the most important part is that were no kurds that held al bab