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The Fight against PKK Terrorism

Our soldiers need to start making their own videos for propaganda. The PKK is good at this, we need our soldiers to record some footage from GoPro's to any other sort of camera and upload them. I'm sure if we started to do this then we would beat these guys in propaganda.

No. Turkish's soldier should be more professionel, let them make their propaganda, and we should only recall them : that PKK is hidding in the mountain in foreign country like rats and that we loss 4 time more live every years because of trafic accident than fighting with rats.

And when we kill rats, we must do it without a show.
 
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No. Turkish's soldier should be more professionel, let them make their propaganda, and we should only recall them : that PKK is hidding in the mountain in foreign country like rats and that we loss 4 time more live every years because of trafic accident than fighting with rats.

And when we kill rats, we must do it without a show.

I'm talking about how like you see footage of American soldiers in combat wearing GoPro's in Afghanistan. No one calls them unprofessional for doing this? If we let the PKK keep posting stuff like this online for the whole world to see our vehicles being blown up and our soldiers being killed and abmushed, then we will look unprofessional.
 
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Put the fuing acar's there get the UAVs in the skies!!! How can they get so close!??!?! They are putting our soldiers there just to be shot!! This is not acceptable!! :pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed::pissed:
 
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The rest of the fight u can find at the enemys channel, it dont look so great for us :/

I could not find any information about the number of casualties on that day, and according to both our and their sources we killed 5 of them.
 
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The area and mountains is so large it's very difficult to control and search all that area. Why don't we burn those mountains somehow so that they have to leave their spots? This is an amateur thought but when you think about it it can work. Or napalm?

what we are doing is "wait and see" goddamn same strategy over for 40 years. us-mexsico border is good example. first we have to secure and protect our borders! 20+ ucav 50+ t129 and guided missiles. and 20K+ active troops inside our borders. for outside borders, Hale Class Uavs. And killer drones. No need to risk t129 there..

AND for the mountains. Use chemical weapons. No one will camp or picnic there.
 
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I could not find any information about the number of casualties on that day, and according to both our and their sources we killed 5 of them.

I think several soldiers, they have fired rpg on that scrap m60, i have watched the video. Fakin stupid mountain top, how many years did pas, and how much soldiers did we lost? When they kill and destroy the qaurdhouse, it is easy to step in the millitairy camp. It is better to close that stupid camp.
 
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what we are doing is "wait and see" goddamn same strategy over for 40 years. us-mexsico border is good example. first we have to secure and protect our borders! 20+ ucav 50+ t129 and guided missiles. and 20K+ active troops inside our borders. for outside borders, Hale Class Uavs. And killer drones. No need to risk t129 there..

AND for the mountains. Use chemical weapons. No one will camp or picnic there.

In my opinion the entire issue is not about using the sufficient equipment or elite training we have to offer. I think it's just all about culture and the rational decisions we take. Basic Economics is one example. It assumes that any decision given by any party is rational. In this case do you find it rational to not have a proven UCAV platform or T-129B in enough numbers in inventory by 2016 where our soldiers take step at many hot zones? You see it all ends up here:

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My point is, the issue is rather deeply rooted into our culture and the way we approach to security on all aspects (personal, national, corporate, civil, cyber, network...etc), it's the awareness we should have decades ago and the critical thinking in security. Take ourselves for example;

• What's the level of security of the passport of your personal computer/wifi network at home and office/safe? Answer: Check google for how passports should be then you'll see.

• Do our men even properly wear their tactical vests? Answer: Most of them don't, their upper chest is open usually. Polis Özel Harekat, they wear balaklavas but not ballistic helmets? There is a reason the state spends money on these operators such as taking above normal weight on themselves when fighting.

• There still in the 21st Century, newly assembled cars in Turkey come up with a seatbelt warning alerts. Even some cars stop working their engine after the driver exceeds 200m without having his seatbelt on. But go and see a bazaar you'll see plenty of mechanisms for sale to avoid these alerts.

• It's been nearly 45 years since the PKK terrör has started. Please include the US invasion of Iraq, Iran-Iraqi War, Syrian Civil War into your mind. What do we see? After all these storm yet we manage to decide to build a concentrate wall only at some part of the southeastern border, at 2015-2016.

This list goes on and on. We can supply our forces with as much as quality equipment they want. But the only solution is to have that general security awareness indoctrinated into our children, at school and home. Teaching personnel professionally on Personnel/Operational Security issues and handling specialists dedicated for this job. Passing judicial reforms for harsher penalties for basic security breaches such as seatbelt to inject the security perspective into our people's brain. Then we might be serious about anything related to our defense.
 
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The rest of the fight u can find at the enemys channel, it dont look so great for us :/

i saw and i cant believe how they come close to a base like that. they fired a rpg to our tank from 10 meters. even without that they attacked a base with recoilless rifle in the middle of the day.
 
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what we are doing is "wait and see" goddamn same strategy over for 40 years. us-mexsico border is good example. first we have to secure and protect our borders! 20+ ucav 50+ t129 and guided missiles. and 20K+ active troops inside our borders. for outside borders, Hale Class Uavs. And killer drones. No need to risk t129 there..

AND for the mountains. Use chemical weapons. No one will camp or picnic there.

I like this. It sounds awesome but unfortunately it equals to impossible. First of all we are not USA and our borderland very different than US-Mexican borderland. Our land is very high and mountainous. Building a wall there it is not logical I thought.

But monitoring whole area by UAVs 24/7, thermal/nightvision cameras and beefing up the outposts, reinforcing by remote controlled defense systems such as aselsan STAMP system-cirit missiles.

Our biggest mistake is that we keep our units behind of the walls and let pkk attack 'em. As you see that outpost is nothing but a joke.

Now TSK uses Bayraktar UAVs to neutralise militants at the first sight but we are lack in both UAVs and attack helicopters.

Above of all, we still don't do anything against supporters of pkk. They still are working in parliament, hospitals, schools gov. offices etc. Which means we still not fight against terrorism. Our gov. made an attempt last month but then they took a step back. As long as they are free at what they do daily basis and support pkk, we can't defeat 'em.

I know I said this million times but this is the fact. Unfortunately we can't change this situation as long as current gov. is in power. One thing is certain, our gov. has no balls to start an act against 'em. They have loaded everything on the shoulder of TSK and wait for a result.
 
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Firefight with M60 Tank in Sirnak against PKK attack on military base. 5 PKK were killed.

we need laser against humans.. 3 x 50 watt lazer would be enough and it would be efficient make them blind foreever :D

some good thermo optics on the ground and uav in air and many solar panels and we do not have to waste ammo :D I think we could call that environmentally friendly :D
 
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We seriously need this,
We will need to also equip our military bases really good, Make it a really good fortified base,
For example, Thermal Optic Camera's that ability to detect heat movement,

Mass production of T129 Attack Helicopters need to be ready and operate in hot zones for terrorist groups, and eliminate terrorist camps in minutes,

I think Turkey should also need to extend the period of military combat training to the conscripts and show them how to equip there selves in combat.

Like how we done in 1990's Period that we had alot of Commando platoons patrolling all around the mountainous regions, not letting the pkk to get out of there rat caves, We need to conduct an Offensive operation all around South Turkey mountainous regions, pkk are now settled there, It is obvious from the videos they post from the channel.

Also we must conduct more air support for our soldiers when there is an base under attack, If not we could lose more soldiers.
 
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Like how we done in 1990's Period that we had alot of Commando platoons patrolling all around the mountainous regions, not letting the pkk to get out of there rat caves,
Back then, we were conducting operations to PKK camps in northern Iraq. If you want to exterminate rats, you first destroy their nests.....not by going after every single rat...it would be like "whack a mole".

We seriously need this,
We will need to also equip our military bases really good, Make it a really good fortified base,
For example, Thermal Optic Camera's that ability to detect heat movement,
Best defense is offense...no need for these fancy equipment. As long as you stay in the defense, you will suffer casualties.

Just one good placed sniper shot will take out this system.
 
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