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The change is loath to come, and Saudi women are fleeing the kingdom

Man and woman are created equal. Have equal rights. Both are equally HUMAN. Period.

Any culture which oppresses women can never see the advancement of Human Condition.

When the women are degraded all of humanity is degraded. Without Dignity Humanity is not farm from.....
 
All of them have backward laws compared to even some Subsaharan African countries. How else can you explain the fact that in both KSA and Iran :
Compared to other Arab states not Turkey ,EU ,US or developed Asian nations
 
BS news , may be some girls came West for studies and later settle down here or few girls gave some interview and paper played wild guess, Saudi women flew away ... etc etc . lol... all those years only seen Saudi guys in US university, hardly any Saudi girls ... don t know where they flew away ...

35,000 Saudi women studying abroad on government scholarships
ARAB NEWS | Published — Tuesday 11 April 2017

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A Saudi scholarship student in US speaks to Saudi Press Agency. (SPA file photo).


JEDDAH: Some 35,000 Saudi women are studying abroad in 60 countries on government scholarships, said Shoura member Huda Al-Hulaisi, adding that Vision 2030 is based on the role of women and youths.
She noted the gains of Saudi women in recent years as they have become members of the Shoura Council and municipal councils.
Saudi women in 2015 constituted 51.8 percent of university students in the Kingdom, she said, adding that employing women and increasing their proportion of the labor market from the current 22 percent to 30 percent is a priority for the state

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1082551/saudi-arabia

Saudi Arabian cardiologist honored in New York


10 March 2017






Dr. Rasha Fahd Al-Bawardi
A PROMINENT Saudi woman cardiologist who works for the Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School was recently honored, along with 19 other Saudi women, by the Consulate General of Saudi Arabia in New York City.

Dr. Rasha Fahad Al-Bawardi was honored with 19 other Saudi women achievers by Saudi Consul General in New York Khalid Mohammad Al-Shareef. The ceremony, which took place as the world celebrated International Women’s Day, was attended by several consuls generals and diplomats.

Al-Bawardi was honored for her role in setting a great example for other Saudi women. She overcame numerous difficulties in medical school and found employment at Harvard University, one of the most prestigious institutions in the world. Today, she is a full-time professor at Harvard Medical School.

Thanking the Saudi mission in New York for giving her the award, Al-Bawardi said: “My mother taught us when we were little kids that there is nothing impossible and one can achieve anything they want if they set their minds to it.”

At a time when it was rare for foreign students to be admitted to US medical schools, Al-Bawardi secured a seat at George Washington University’s School of Medicine and Health Science due to her stellar academic credentials. She went on to earn an undergraduate degree in medical science and a graduate degree in genomics and bioinformatics from the same university. After that, she did her internship at Cleveland Clinic and then enrolled in Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York where she studied cardiology for three years.

“I conducted several research programs at the college. After that, I joined the Massachusetts General Hospital where I still work,” she said.

The scholarship program run by the Kingdom’s government allows Saudi students to realize their academic endeavors, said Al-Bawardi.

She added that she wants to serve her country by contributing to advancing medical research in the field of cardiology.

http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/saudi-cardiologist-honored-new-york/

Saudi Arabian woman scientist at the forefront of polymer chemistry research

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/blo...-forefront-of-polymer-chemistry-research.html

There has been celebrations all over Saudi social media blogs over the extraordinary accomplishments of a female Saudi scientist. They have hailed the scientific achievements of Dr. Ghada Almutarie.

Saudis and many Arab social media surfers painted Ghada as pride of all Arabs and Muslims, asserting the worthiness of her research to future Nobel Prize nomination. During Friday prayers, Minister Sheikh Adnan Ibrahim described Ghada as “pride for the entire nation that will change the world of medical care”.

However, despite the adulation, Saudis have expressed disappointment over the manner in which Ghada, and other Saudi female scientists, has been presented in Saudi and Arab media. The demand is that scientists should get the same, if not more, attention as celebrities.

Research outputs of Ghada are no stranger in an era of Saudi women glory. Saud Alyumni tweeted that “Ghada is a reborn of the Arab woman, one that would redefine the Arab woman forever”.

Despite the stereotypes surrounding the country, Saudi Arabia is home to some highly influential women in the world. Stories of successful female scientists, scholars and businesswomen surface in the desert Kingdom all the time.

Hayat Sendi, a UNESCO goodwill ambassador for science education and UN Secretary General Scientific Advisor, Thoraya Obaid, the 2001 Executive Director of the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), Khawla Alkhuraya; a leading genomic cancer researcher, Huda Alghuson,Saudi Aramco Excutive Director of Human resources, and many others are taking the lead in many domestic and international institutions.

Ghada Almutairi is a Saudi polymer chemist. However, she chooses to introduce herself as a “nano- constructor” or “plastic surgeon”. Since an early age, she prepared herself to qualify for major global challenges. Her problem solving skills always hold her in good stead while facing challenges in her personal and professional lives.

Coming from a family of scientists, Ghada’s dreams knows no limits. Soon after completing her high school in Jeddah, she moved to the US to obtain her undergraduate and graduate degrees. But high certificates were never going to satisfy Ghada’s ambitions. Soon, she entered the University of California, San Diego (UCSD).

Professor Almutairi has been a faculty member at the University of UCSD since 2008. She is the director of UCSD’s Center of Excellence in Nanomedicine, a rapidly expanding interdisciplinary research collaborative team developing tools for the future of biology and medicine. Her primary appointment is in the Skaggs School of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences, and she is a member of the departments of NanoEngineering, and Radiology.

Her novel inventions mark the perfect match between chemistry and medical sciences. Once described by fellow scientists as “elegant impractical chemistry”, Ghada’s numerous researches led to a revolution in today’s medical world.

Smart polymers
Ghada’s innovative spirit led her to merge various fields for the good of humanity. Together with her brother, a plastic surgeon, and the FDA, she is now working to develop human clinical trials for a better way to perform liposuction. But Ghada’s biggest achievement at UCSD is probably best known for designing and developing smart polymers, nanoparticles and hydrogels for many innovative medical and research applications.

At a conference in Berlin recently, Almutairi announced her most recent research based on merging light-activated nanoparticles and lanthanides to increase sufficiency of solar energy.

But solar energy and desalination won’t be the end of Ghada’s creativity. The vast array of practical uses of her research — touching on everything from diabetes to MRI imaging — draws great interest from pharmaceutical, cosmetic, chemical and energy companies all over the world.

Major companies like Dow, Merck, L’Oréal, biologists, engineers and everyone seem excited about Almutairi’s work can be implemented.

Almutairi’s work has won her numerous awards and given her access to funds including: UC Dissertation Award, UC Presidential Postdoctoral Fellowship, PhRMA Foundation Starter Grant, and NIH New Innovator Award.

But Almutairi’s dedication to her work never let her lose her true identity. “I owe everything in my life to my parents, family and my country, Saudi Arabia, which I indescribably love,” Ghada says in a recent interview in Al-Riyadh newspaper.

“The Saudi King has always been keen on developing our beloved country and people. Our Saudi youth has all potential for success, only if executives facilitate the appropriate environment and support for them,” she adds.




https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/oiling-the-wheels-on-a-road-to-success-in-saudi-arabia.428713/page-5

1000's of women from the average Muslim country are leaving their country each week but when a few Saudi Arabian women leave KSA it makes headline news across the world. Therein lies the difference.

May be Saudi ministry of interior is very strict and filter there post. That s why they avoid to talk about such trivial subject.

Sure, LOL. They have nothing better to do.
 
Its happening in Iran but not women. Iran has more women's rights than most of the gulf, most Iranians leave Iran for higher quality jobs in the west
Islam does offer freedom to women but Nudity and vulgarity in the veil of freedom or modernism this is something what no country shall allow either Saudi Arabia or Iran.its of the basic principles and this freedom directly collides with it.one of the reasons west dislikes Islamic culture of Burqa but never tend to understand its imprtance in the muslim societies.
 
Islam does offer freedom to women but Nudity and vulgarity in the veil of freedom or modernism this is something what no country shall allow either Saudi Arabia or Iran.its of the basic principles and this freedom directly collides with it.one of the reasons west dislikes Islamic culture of Burqa but never tend to understand its imprtance in the muslim societies.
I don't think the Quran says women must wear a Burqa? I think it has been discussed on here before and several muslim members agreed that the Quran doesn't specifically mention anything about the Burqa other than that a woman and MAN should dress modestly, if I'm not wrong?
A woman can dress modestly without putting on the Burqa( which is a cultural thing and not religious from what I have heard) I believe?.
If not, a man(not just a woman) should also put on one then, if a Burqa is the only modest way of dressing , NO?
 
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Islam does offer freedom to women but Nudity and vulgarity in the veil of freedom or modernism this is something what no country shall allow either Saudi Arabia or Iran.its of the basic principles and this freedom directly collides with it.one of the reasons west dislikes Islamic culture of Burqa but never tend to understand its imprtance in the muslim societies.

But you would allow them to leave the country, if they don't agree with these laws, right?
 
But you would allow them to leave the country, if they don't agree with these laws, right?
Its one of the worlds most Stupid notions but let me explain.if a rich family,s female leaves the country fleeing somewhere in europe or USA,how come these idiots expect the rest to do the same?? they dont want muslims in their country,s painting all of them as a terror threat yet they yell about females rights in muslims country,s.Double standards right?

I don't think the Quran says women must wear a Burqa? I think it has been discussed on here before and several muslim members agreed that the Quran doesn't specifically mention anything about the Burqa other than that a woman and MAN should dress modestly, if I'm not wrong?
A woman can dress modestly without putting on the Burqa( which is a cultural thing and not religious from what I have heard) I believe?.
If not, a man(not just a woman) should also put on one then, if a Burqa is the only modest way of dressing , NO?
Quran/Chapter 4/Verse 24.........
And say to the believing women (that) they should lower [of] their gaze and they should guard their chastity, and not (to) display their adornment except what is apparent of it. And let them their head covers over their bosoms, and not (to) display their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers or fathers (of) their husbands or their sons or sons (of) their husbands or their brothers or sons (of) their brothers or sons (of) their sisters, or their women or what possess their right hands or the attendants having no physical desire among [the] men or [the] children who (are) not aware of private aspects (of) the women. And not let them their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah altogether O believers! So that you may succeed.http://www.islamawakened.com/Quran/24/st61.htm#31
I partially agree with you.Burqa isnt mensioned in the quran but has became a traditional icon in the muslim world to fulfill the requirments of Allah,s orders as per in the Quran.The women tend to follow the rules of islam just the way they are required have no problem in wearing burqa or hijab..but since there is alot of flexibility about how one can keep herself covered adequetly women have become more free in choosing what suits them best.those whom like the woman to be packed completely are unaware about the true concept of hijab.
 
All of them have backward laws compared to even some Subsaharan African countries. How else can you explain the fact that in both KSA and Iran :

A woman isn't allowed to go to sports stadium to watch a football match or sports event with her male counterparts?

In all public places, women must wear a Hijab (headscarf) and loose fitting clothing (usually a loose coat, is required, in KSA it can be even stricter) and there's even modesty requirements that are strictly enforced by the "morality police."

A married woman cannot leave the country without her husband's permission and must seek his consent to get a passport.

A woman's testimony as a witness is worth half that of a man, in compliance with the Sharia basis of the legal system. My friend @xenon54 mentioned that to me earlier as well.

Polygamy and temporary marriage are permitted for men (up to four wives are allowed, subject to certain restrictions), but not for women(it's a Taboo and even in case of divorce case the man always gets the last word).

You dare not walk on the street hand in hand with your girlfriend or mingle together publicly.
Etc etc.

All of these countries have some really tough laws towards women. Hopefully with time things will get better as globalisation takes root more and more in these countries. The one country I found(either visited or red about) who has very liberal laws for its women is Turkey. During my stay there it was sometimes like any other western country the way women are free to wear what they want , go to stadium without a male counterpart, walk with a boyfriend/partner in public without any issues etc etc. Maybe these countries can learn something from Turkey. :)
All countries change at their own pace if you look at them as a still picture you will not see that but compare last 20 years you will see a difference :rolleyes:
 
When I started studying Islam, I was surprised to know that:

(1) In Islam, there was no Hijab for a slave woman. Slave women were moving in the markets with even naked chests.

(2) Hijab was considered as only the Right and honour of free Muslim woman. Therefore, if any slave woman used to take Hijab, then overnment officials used to beat her with the stick and took her Hijab down, telling her that she should not resemble a Free Muslim woman (authentic Traditions).
It was really shocking to know.

AAgain it was shocking to know, but this verse is present in Quran itself (Surah Nisa).

(4) The worst shocking thing was this that slave women used to move in the society with naked breasts and this was not considered bad. I was not ready to believe it till I saw enough evidence that it is true.

(5) Another shocking thing was this that if small babies of slave women got 2 teeth (approx. 6 months), then they could have been separated from their slave mothers and sold in the market.

I am speechless to say any thing.
 

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