The Caliphate

[WhiteMansBurden]

What's wrong with getting big ?

It's meant to be the 'European' Union. A continental organization that represents European cultures and ideals... There are few European countries left to join. Other than the Balkans and Norway/Iceland/Switzerland, there are only the four E. European states.

After that, Europe should stop.

 

[Hyperion]

Buddy, that's what he meant. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN... nor do we want it to happen.....

So basically it's nutty to think that this Ummah thing won't happen?

LOL ok buddy, good luck with your unified Arab-Turkic-Iranian-Pashto-Persian-Urdu-Malay-Albanian-Bosnian- nation-state.

I'm sure it'll happen any time soon now....

 

[-SINAN-]

yeah.. TR caliphate zindabad.. @Sinan will you accept me as your citizen if I support turkik caliphate

I will appoint you as a minister than

 

[flamer84]

The dark side? LOL, what does Turkey have to offer the EU?

A growing,modern economy,one of the most powerfull militaries in the world,a competent workforce,i'll rather open the gates to turks than import these african,middle easterners,asian third worlders,many of them radicalised that we import now.They can also serve as an important bridge between Europe and central asian countries.

It's meant to be the 'European' Union. A continental organization that represents European cultures and ideals... There are few European countries left to join. Other than the Balkans and Norway/Iceland/Switzerland, there are only the four E. European states.

After that, Europe should stop.

Turkey is in Europe for over 700 years now,we should get over this "they tried to conquer Europe " complex,so did the spanish in the 16th century,so did the french and most recently the germans.Time to move on with old prejudices.

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

Buddy, that's what he meant. IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN... nor do we want it to happen.....

Ah never mind, didn't get the joke.

 

[Serpentine]

Still not a united country and Muslims are killing each other, staging coups against each other, supporting war on each other, sending arms to each other's countries and finally, not agreeing on real definition of Islam and about who is right or who is wrong, now imagine what will happen if all those countries become ONE state, the mess would be indescribable by any human mind.

PS: An economic alliance would do the best for all of us, that would be great, anything beyond that is practically impossible, at least with current governments/regimes and policies.

 

[Hyperion]

Sorry, no thank you. We are way richer and more progressive than we would be with the EU. EU comes with too many strings attached, which may hamper our economic progress. Don't forget, sissy laws of the EU.

If we don't receive TR in the EU pretty soon we might loose them to the dark side

 

[Cheetah786]

So basically it's nutty to think that this Ummah thing won't happen?

LOL ok buddy, good luck with your unified Arab-Turkic-Iranian-Pashto-Urdu-Malay-Albanian-Bosnian nation-state.

I'm sure it'll happen any time soon now....

WhiteMansBurden i am willing to bet you prefer NASCAR so No more NASWAR for you.

 

[-SINAN-]

It's meant to be the 'European' Union. A continental organization that represents European cultures and ideals... There are few European countries left to join. Other than the Balkans and Norway/Iceland/Switzerland, there are only the four E. European states.

After that, Europe should stop.

So, it's nothing to do with being a big country.

"Cultures and ideals".... Let's make it clear and loud. "Because Turk's are muslim"

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

A growing,modern economy,one of the most powerfull militaries in the world,a competent workforce,i'll rather open the gates to turks than import these african,middle easterners,asian third worlders,many of them radicalised that we import now.They can also serve as an important bridge between Europe and central asian countries.

I agree, I would rather open to Turkey than the others. But WHY do we have to choose one or the other?

Turkey is majority-Muslim, it's main language is Turkic in origin, it's culture is completely different from Western civlization, it's income is 1/3 to 1/4 the European average, etc.

They would also have the LARGEST voting bloc, even larger than Germany.

 

[Hyperion]

Birak bunlara. We are way more progressive than they can ever imagine. They need to look at their national debts, and move their lazy arses. Going to teach us how to survive? Yeah. In their pathetic dreams!

So, it's nothing to do with being a big country.

"Cultures and ideals".... Let's make it clear and loud. "Because Turk's are muslim"

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

Sorry, no thank you. We are way richer and more progressive than we would be with the EU. EU comes with too many strings attached, which may hamper our economic progress. Don't forget, sissy laws of the EU.

LOL, how is $10,000 income richer than $40,000 income? One of the reasons your country is begging to join the EU is because of the large markets and bail-out package options that would become available to your country if you were to do so.

As for progressiveness... on what? Gays? Prostitution? Free speech?? LOL!

 

[livingdead]

Hey wait the minute some indians wanted to join OIC.They claimed to have more Muslims then some Muslim states put together i bet Loony tunes will be more then happy to have India as a Ummah nation what do u say @hinduguy

I dont want to be that kid who is not allowed to play coz the guy who brings bat does not like me..
I am all for ummah.. ... ..

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

So, it's nothing to do with being a big country.

"Cultures and ideals".... Let's make it clear and loud. "Because Turk's are muslim"

No, it's to do with Turks sharing a different culture, and not generally being considered to be "European" or part of "Western Civlization". There are some majority-Muslim states in Europe too.

 

[flamer84]

I agree, I would rather open to Turkey than the others. But WHY do we have to choose one or the other?

Turkey is majority-Muslim, it's main language is Turkic in origin, it's culture is completely different from Western civlization, it's income is 1/3 to 1/4 the European average, etc.

They would also have the LARGEST voting bloc, even larger than Germany.

They have a larger income per capita than Romania,Bulgaria,european members.
Aha,so it's about voting power,well tough luck if the french and germans loose their voting power,at least make it official and say that EU is a bloc created for franco-german interests rather than saying that is an european collective with all member states as equal partners.