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The Battle for Bajaur - PA seizes control

31 Oct, 2008

KHAR: A Tehreek-i-Taliban spokesman claimed that the group has unilaterally suspended activities in the Mamond area of Bajaur, which has been a stronghold of the militia.

‘Yes, Taliban have unilaterally suspended their activities after holding negotiations with the local elders, but it doesn’t mean that we have surrendered our weapons,’ the TTP spokesman Maulvi Omar told Dawn by phone from an unspecified location on Friday.

He said that if the army entered Mamond, the Taliban would not resist, adding they would only retaliate if they were attacked.

He also said that the Taliban had assured local elders that they would not clash with security forces and were ready for talks with the government.

Area residents said that militants appeared to be retreating from Bajaur after losing Lowi Sam and other strategic locations.

Armed militants who had established courts and a parallel administration in Khar and other parts of Bajaur had vacated their positions and also abolished checkpoints.

‘Some of their leaders have moved to Upper and Lower Dir districts,’ local people said.

Maulvi Omar said that despite assurances by the elders, security forces were still targeting Taliban positions in Mamond and Charmang areas.
 
My dear,

This is same satituation as was in afghan russia war.Pakistan suffered lot in that war but finealy russia lost and that victory was not victory of only afghan but realistically speaking that was pakistans victory.

Yes we are sacrificing in this US and Talaban war.

Just widen your prospective if US and NATO gained control of Afghanistan what they will do next they will establish their permanent bases in Pakistan.
India have aready basis in afghanistan.

It will never be in favour of pakistan that talaban lose this battle,we have to support them to keep US away from this region .


We dont want to lose our strategic dept in Afghanistan.India is our enemy and you know that india is doing nuk deals with USA to make him partner and control this region.

In that case we should forget our kashmir cause.

I hope you understand the hidden plan of India and USA in this region
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Frankly, what fruits of victory did we get from the Jehad. Our " Mujahideen" were not even able to dislodge the few communist cronies that USSR left in Kabul. And then we had to create Taliban to gain control of the area. After sometime, we even lost control over Taliban and they chose to go under Usama because he offered more money. I just can't see the fruits of victory achieved out of this jehad other than the harm it has brought to our country. As far as strategic depth is concerned, it was an idea applicable during pre 1998 era before us going nuclear. In the aftermath, we failed to revise our strategy by ignoring the wishes of local population and by imposing ourself on Afghanistan. Just see the role reversal, now US is treating us as we treated afghans, i'm sure no one in Pakistan likes that so why do we forget that their are some people living in Afghanistan.
As far as Indo- US nexus in af-tan is concerned, if history is any indication than brother be assured that US would not be able to hold Af-tan much less the NATO. May i remind you that starting from Darius of Persian empire to Alexander, Mongols to british empire and USSR, none has been able to hold it together what makes one think that US will. Just see how americans are worried about their ecnomy, one war in Iraq has led them no where already. And with US out of there, India will reap what it has sown like us while not learning from our mistakes.
As far as Pakistan is concerned, we have to learn one thing for sure that we have to learn to chain the beast and not let it grow bigger than what we can handle. If you know their psyche then you would also know that these people understand or listen to the one who is in position to bully them and one just can't negotiate with them from a position of weakness.
Yes, in any future setup, we might need them again but they would be better complying to instructions only if we establish ourselves as boss and importantly get rid of criminal, anti Pakistan elements and rogue elements from their ranks. Thanks
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I also got to hear it but did not see the video. Any links to this report?
Only see a brief one of hers (Barbara Plett) here but no interviews with any of the officers

The report was aired twice yesterday. They were talking and interviewing couple of majors and finally the IG FC. They showed few shots of tanks firing and of gunship helicopters.
 

Monday, November 10, 2008

KHAR: Twelve tribal militants have surrendered to the authorities in Bajaur Agency on Monday.

Atmankhel tribe is holding a jirga to hand over the local militants who laid down their arm Monday before Political Administration.

Salarzai and Mamond tribes are also holding separate anti-militants jirga in Bajaur Agency today (Monday). Important decisions are being expected against the local militants in the two jirga.

Strict security arrangements have been made by the local administration before the all-important jirga. A large number of Levis personnel have been deployed.

On the other hand, security forces carried out strikes on militants’ positions in Zorbandar and Sabagi areas of Khar. However, there was no report of casualties. Helicopter gunships are doing aerial surveillance in various parts of the volatile agency.

Meanwhile, most of the Afghan refugees are returning to their country on the second day of a three-day deadline given to them for leaving the Mamond tehsil. Afghan refugees are migrating in large number.
 
From The Times
November 7, 2008

'As we skirted a suicide attack our escort vehicle was hit by a bomb'
Anthony Loyd

The labyrinth of gullies, the tunnels and mud-walled compounds; the thump of rockets and rattle of gunfire, the shouts and confusion ... in the words of the wounded soldiers it seemed like another small version of Hell in an Afghan firefight. The battalion's advance units were pinned down, taking heavy fire from unseen insurgents in multiple positions. Jets flew overhead, artillery was on standby, but the combat was too close-quarter for either to be used. A ten-man assault group led by a captain was caught in the open, lying in a wheatfield. Bullets scythed the crop around them.

An exploding rocket ripped open the captain's right side. His radio operator dropped wounded beside him. Dragged to an ambulance, they found their colonel already on a stretcher. One of his legs had been all but severed. He had been felled by a mortar round and shot twice. Four of his headquarters staff were wounded in the blast. Outside the ambulance, more explosions and more shooting followed. Now six of the ten-man assault group lay dead in the sheaves of wheat.

The battalion had begun its attack at 6am. The objective looked small, just a few mud-walled compounds in the village of Khazana. Little more than three hours later, seven soldiers were dead and 27 wounded.

But this was not Afghanistan; these were not British troops. Instead, just across the border, it was Pakistani soldiers giving their lives in a fight against the Taleban. And that day was far from the worst in the continuing Operation Sherdil: for the past three months, fighting along an eight-mile (13km) stretch of road in the tribal agency of Bajaur has claimed the lives of 83 troops and wounded 300. A total of 20 other soldiers are missing in action, presumed dead.

The card displayed beside the hospital bed of the officer who lost his leg that September day, Lieutenant Colonel Zahid Mehmood, was made by his two young sons. “Our Hero” it reads on the front, in English.

The room could be that of a British officer in Selly Oak, Birmingham,rather than the Combined Military Hospital in Peshawar, where Colonel Mehmood and Captain Inam-ur-Rahman spoke of the action; just two men among the many Pakistani soldiers wounded in the operation to date.

Standing at his bedside, Zahid's wife, Uzma, 33, cut a figure of stoicism. “We are not afraid of these sacrifices,” she said. “I believe he has done a noble job for his country and religion and I am proud of him.”

Uzma's words may give pause for thought among the chorus line of regional players - including Nato, the US and Britain - who have long questioned Pakistan's commitment in dealing with the militants in its seven Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) bordering Afghanistan. Numerous previous operations conducted by Pakistan's military over the past five years in those areas have ended with flawed ceasefires, inconclusive negotiations and a resurgent Taleban. Many have accused Pakistan's intelligence service, the ISI, of conniving with the insurgents. “This could be the moment that ends the Pakistani military's denial of the problem they are facing in the Fata,” one Western diplomat remarked. “A watershed in which they realise just how serious the insurgency has become.”

Any doubts as to the gravity of the situation in Bajaur were quickly dispelled as The Times drove there. As we skirted the immediate aftermath of a suicide attack that killed nine people in the town of Mardan, our escort vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb. The device had been poorly positioned; as the seven Frontier Corps militiamen sprinted past us out of the smoke, it appeared that a hapless motorcyclist, carried bleeding from the scene, was the only casualty. It was still an hour's drive from the Fata borders and in a supposedly calm area.

In Bajaur itself, the hotly contested stretch of road, flanked by devastatedvillages, crackled with sporadic sniper and machinegun fire. A gunship strafed a distant slope; nearer, barely 100 yards from a Pakistani position on the road, mortar fire thumped into a compound. “We've just seen movement there,” a captain explained from behind a sandbagged wall as his radio operator adjusted the fire. “There aren't any civilians here and we are shot at from the house every night.”

Local media have called the operation the defining “do or die” moment for Pakistani security forces in the struggle against the militants. The US and Nato are watching just as closely. Given the task of securing the unconditional surrender of the Taleban in Bajaur, which borders Afghanistan, Major-General Tariq Khan, the Frontier Corps commander at the forefront of Operation Sherdil, is unequivocal. “We're not even doing this to lead to negotiation,” he told The Times at his headquarters in Peshawar.

“We're very clear. We've told them [the Taleban] it's just two or three options they have. They can surrender to the local commandant with their weapons. They will go to a proper court which we'll establish and they'll get their sentences. Or they can prepare to die.” Yet Pakistan's Government seems more ambivalent. Last week Parliament passed a 14-point resolution in which it recommended that the fighting should be ended through negotiation. The country remains deeply divided between those supporting military operations and those who believe that the violence has been visited upon them at America's behest.

The alleged hiding place of Ayman al-Zawahiri, alQaeda's second-in-command, Bajaur is a key transit route for Taleban passing in and out from other tribal areas as well as Afghanistan. The Army has only just cleared the insurgents from positions along the road linking the town of Loesam with Bajaur's capital, Khar; now it has bottled the Taleban into two valleys and is waiting for Nato to deploy forces to secure the Afghan border before further advances.

The operation is expected to last for up to two more months and the fiercest fighting could lie ahead. If pushed to its natural conclusion, Operation Sherdil might mark the belated recognition that Nato and the Pakistani army share a common enemy. But any wavering in resolve could undermine what has been achieved at such cost, and mark another low point in Pakistan's efforts to subdue the militants.

Fighting began there in August and caught the military by surprise. A Frontier Corps unit of 150 men was sent to establish a post at Loesam, where a crossroads links routes in four directions. Within two hours they found themselves under attack and were soon surrounded by a Taleban force estimated to be more than 1,000 strong.

Two attempts by troops based at Khar to relieve the encircled force failed after suffering heavy casualties.

With no water or rations left and their ammunition all but expended, on the fourth, rainy night the beleaguered force managed to break out. The last man to leave was their commander, Major Ijaz Hussain. Separated from his men, he spent two days hidden in a field of maize with one other soldier - the Taleban all around them. He was wounded by fire from a Pakistani gunship before making a successful escape. “I had two rounds left in my gun,” he said. “I was saving them for myself rather than be captured.”

Having taken Loesam, and scenting victory, the Taleban moved on quickly to encircle Khar. The Frontier Corps there were briefly surrounded in their crenellated fortress as insurgents from neighbouring tribal areas and Afghanistan poured in for the attack. Officers estimate that more than 4,000 insurgents were in Bajaur, of whom at least 1,000 had arrived from Afghanistan. They claim to have killed more than 1,500 in the past few weeks but admit - similar to Nato's claims in Afghanistan - to having recovered only “tens” of militant bodies.

Shocked by the strength of the Taleban in Bajaur and aware of a nationwide sense that the militants were in the ascendancy, thanks to a series of suicide-bomb attacks and assassinations, the Pakistani Army committed a brigade of reinforcements to Khar on September 9. Initially given the job of pushing up from Khar and recapturing Loesam, they immediately found themselves in pitched combat against a well-armed enemy equipped with mortars, rockets, heavy machineguns and satellite communications systems. Extensive tunnel complexes, piled with rations and munitions, linked a series of defensive positions.

For many of the regular troops, trained for conventional war with India, the new style of combat came as a brutal surprise. “It's a guerrilla war in a built-up area and forest, against a strongly held defence line held by people who are invisible,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Javed Baluch, in Tang Khata, a village captured by his men in September. “Many of the engagements are at 25 yards,” he added, visibly surprised by the nature of the action. “By the time you realise they are there, you are hit. It's a bloody organised group. Give them credit, they fight in an organised way.”

The Army's push was slow and bloody as the insurgents kept melting away and reappearing to ambush and harry the advance. Tang Khata, little more than a mile from Khar, took five days to subdue. It was ten days later that Colonel Mehmood lost his leg and seven men. Another battalion lost 12 dead and 42 wounded retaking the next village, Nisarabad.

As the Army advanced laboriously toward Loesam, which it finally recaptured on October 23, a series of lashkars - units of local tribesmen - were co-opted to join the Government's fight. Their support on the battlefield has been advertised as proof that the local populace has decisively rejected the presence of the Taleban, but it comes with many caveats. In one valley the lashkars have pushed out the Taleban, but in another, Charmung, they have been decisively beaten. In a third, Mamund, they have yet to organise.

More than 100,000 civilians remain displaced by the fighting. Most heeded the Government's call to leave Bajaur at the start of the operation. Officials state that 95 civilians have been killed in the fighting but the figures are impossible to verify. The Times spoke to numerous families who said that relatives had been killed by artillery or airstrikes even as they fled.

Jehnazeb, 27, from Loisam, left his home on foot along with 25 family members, including his six-month-old daughter, in September. Soon after they had begun the long journey to a refugee camp they were repeatedly bombed by a jet. “There was one huge blast and smoke everywhere,” he said. “We scattered and fled for our lives into a field of corn. For 25 minutes we were too frightened to go back to the track. When we did I found that my sister-in-law was blown to bits. My brother and two children were wounded. My mother had been cut in half. She was 67. We buried them then and there at the roadside.

“After a couple of hours we continued our journey to the camp. The wounded walked.”

Those who do return to Loesam one day will find that their homes have been reduced to a wasteland. In the centre of the town barely one brick sits upon another.

“The fight ahead will be different,” said Major Anwar Saeed, as he stepped over the rubble and looked toward the towering peaks beyond. “It'll be tougher. Mountain warfare. We'll change our tactics and the Taleban will change theirs.”

He paused for a second as a nearby tank engaged targets on the slopes. “In October 2001 we thought this would last just a few months. Now it's a few years. Militarise an area and it's easy to make a beast out of man - and so difficult to make a man out of a beast.”

Land of extremes

— The Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) are semi-autonomous regions in which most laws passed by Pakistan's National Assembly do not apply. Instead, they are governed by tribal leaders and follow a mixture of tribal and Islamic laws and codes

— Bajaur covers an area of about 500 sq miles (1,290 sq km). Khar, its administrative centre, lies about 85 miles from the Pakistani city of Peshawar

— The terrain is ill-suited to military manoeuvres, with peaks ranging from 2,500m (8,200ft) in the south to 3,000m in the north. It is criss-crossed by rivers, forming deep valleys

— The climate is extreme, with temperatures from freezing in the winter to 36C in summer

— The two main tribes in the area are the Tarkanai and Uthman khel

Sources: Fata Secretariat; Times archive

'As we skirted a suicide attack our escort vehicle was hit by a bomb' - Times Online

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Where are reports like these in the Pakistani media? Our soldiers are dying for the nation, and Pakistani 'journalists' like that POS Hamid Mir put out crap about how its all a 'drama'. Fkn traitors.
 
Thats quite an eye opener AM.

Reminds me alot of 3 Para by Patrick Bishop about the UKs 16 Air Assault Brigade first going into Helmand province.

There are similar themes along the lines of a small force going into a hornets nest and fighting for their lives.
 
i waiting for that day when pak army say now whole pakistan is clear from talibans alqaida extreamists tarerrsts and there god fathers MULLAS
 
Thanks for the report.

My heart goes out to those brave men of your army. They're engaged in a stand-up fight, to be sure. I'm appreciative and grateful. It helps our men in Kunar, Nuristan, Nangahar, Paktika, and Paktia.

Reading the report, as JK mentioned, there was little to separate from what we've faced daily on the other side. AQAM have had ample opportunity and resources to fortify these homes and villages. Many are natural fortresses in any case and only need small engineering modifications to transform them to near-invulnerability.

"...the Pakistani Army committed a brigade of reinforcements to Khar on September 9. Initially given the job of pushing up from Khar and recapturing Loesam, they immediately found themselves in pitched combat against a well-armed enemy equipped with mortars, rockets, heavy machineguns and satellite communications systems. Extensive tunnel complexes, piled with rations and munitions, linked a series of defensive positions.

For many of the regular troops, trained for conventional war with India, the new style of combat came as a brutal surprise."


Make no mistake-this, too, is conventional war. It's certainly not a COIN-driven operation. Nowhere close. There are no civilians, or shouldn't be at this point. The opponent's mind and heart aren't open to "winning". They're dug in and prepared to resist. Further, given an opportunity, they'll attack as they did the F.C. base. This is a conventional infantry operation in a mid-intensity battle fought on mixed density terrain that's complex and rugged. A mix of villages, farmlands, groves, woods- all amid a rugged piedmont with a sparse and barely servicable transportation network.

If anything, this appears nothing so much as like the Israeli-Hezbollah war of 2006.

This is a knock-down, drag-out fight.

Very useful read.
 
Blain/S-2:

To this 'non-military' eye of mine, the proportion of officers being KIA and wounded seems quite high, compared to NATO forces (unscientific assumption based on my recollection of NATO casualty reports).

IIRC, a British SF colonel resigned/removed because of his insistence on accompanying his men in combat. Was this merely a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and being caught by surprise by Taliban defenses and firepower, or is this the nature of South Asian armies?
 
"Was this merely a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and being caught by surprise by Taliban defenses and firepower, or is this the nature of South Asian armies?"

In my estimation, neither, though I lean to the former. It's hard to know what the mission required but it seems like at least a full battalion in a fairly compact battle area.

With modest exceptions like Fallajuh, we've rarely deployed into battle with companies manuevering under battalion control- especially Afghanistan. It's a very small unit war on our side of the border with platoons (usually led by a 22 year old 2nd Lt.) instead of companies or, in this case, battalion.

These were regular army and possibly of the brigade mentioned in the article. They may well have expected all or none of this. Once in contact at this level, though, there's a tendancy for fights of this intensity to escalate rapidly. Two fire teams from opposite sides can initiate the battle and it builds to a crescendo within seconds, sucking in fighters from both sides as though with a life of it's own.

"IIRC, a British SF colonel resigned/removed because of his insistence on accompanying his men in combat."

Special Forces colonels have ZERO business out with their troops. None. These are units of small size and top-heavy with rank. His presence is redundant. If he needs personal familiarization then he's the wrong colonel for the job. Different story from here. This article is about a rifle battalion who's entire organization is evidently under the guns of the opponent. Just bad luck, good observation, or both that his command group was hit but that's seems an all-too-common occurrence that has as much to do with controlling the setting, vehicle traffic, visible radio antennaes, C.P. nearby, etc. All those things will attract fire if seen. May be the case here.

Our rifle battalion commanders, when deployed on an operation of this size would be every bit as vulnerable to the same circumstance. As interesting to me was the captain leading a squad-sized assault group. What was the target that his presence was necessary. In the British system, captains are usually a 2IC for a company. In ours, captains command- majors manage.:azn:
 
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In Gurilla war tactics numbers of batallians or birgades or fire power have not much importance,main factors are long term war strategy,effective light weight weapons , strong communication system and local support.

I dont know talaban still have stinger or not gifted by ex US friends.The day they got this toy will be last day of US and Allies in Afghanistan.:cheers:

The stingers were supplied by the US during the eighties. These were first used against the Soviets and then by different afghan factions against each other. Some were returned to the US by afghans against cash reward. So I doubt enough stingers remain to be a decisive factor in the battle.
 
12 Taliban surrender, six killed in Bajaur
* Security forces kill 7 Taliban in Swat


Staff Report

MINGORA/KHAR: Thirteen Taliban fighters were killed and several others injured in the army operation in Swat and Bajaur on Monday.

According to the army media centre in Mingora, five of the Taliban, including a local commander, were killed in clashes in Moragai and Shalkho areas of Matta tehsil, while another two were killed in a separate clash in Swat’s Kabal tehsil.

AFP quoted officials as saying that the remaining six were killed in Bajaur’s Sewai and Damadola areas when jets bombarded Taliban hideouts. “The bombing destroyed their underground hideouts, and so far six deaths have been confirmed,” local administration official Jamil Khan told AFP.

In a separate development, 12 Taliban commanders surrendered to the political administration, at a jirga of Otmankhel tribes in Bajaur Agency on Monday, officials and locals told Daily Times. Frontier Constabulary officials said the commanders had assured the jirga and the political authorities that they would not side with the Taliban in future. Locals said the jirga was held in Khar, where tribal elders handed over the 12 wanted individuals to the political authorities. Salarzai and Mamoond tribes also held separate anti-Taliban jirgas in Bajaur on Monday.

APP reported that security forces also targetted Taliban positions in Zorbandar and Sabagi areas of Khar, but there were no casualties. Security in Khar has been put on red alert following reports that suicide bombers have entered the headquarters of Bajaur, NNI reported.

Blasts: Separately in Salarzai area of Bajaur, a bomb blast killed one man and destroyed a guest house; while in Mamoond tehsil, a remote-controlled bomb injured four people.

Free Taliban: Meanwhile, Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan said an abducted Chinese engineer would be set free when the authorities released all 50 militants on a list given to Malakand DIG Tanveerul Haq Sipra. He also demanded the release of another 25 Taliban in exchange for three kidnapped policemen.

Also, an ISPR spokesman has denied media reports that US jets bombed Tirah Valley on Sunday.
 
Army convoy escapes bomb attack

By Abdul Saboor Khan

HANGU: The Taliban on Monday made an unsuccessful attempt at targetting an army convoy with a timed bomb in Duaba area of Tall tehsil.

Sources said the bomb was planted on Duaba Tora Wari Road with an army convoy as the apparent target, but the device exploded 10 minutes after the troops passed the spot. They said the explosion had not caused any casualties. The sources said the bomb disposal squad later found and defused a 25-kilogramme bomb from the same spot. The area has now been cordoned off for an investigation.
 

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