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The Battle for Bajaur - PA seizes control

Muse,

From the horses mouth on why some Army officials are saying 'if they win'.

The commanders on the ground are not confident the leadership will not pull back when victory is in sight again. To think that so much bloodshed would have been avoidable had we not pulled back in Swat and S Waziristan after the new Gov. took over...

because they dont trust the politicians, who will pull the rug from under their feet. remember Kiyani is playing the constitutional role here even though he has complete carte-blanc to operate in FATA.
 
Those are both good suggestions, the first one especially is feasible in a short/medium term timeframe, and it should be noted the it was the Afghan Govenment that refused to cooperate on both those initiatives.

I think Pakistan deserves an answer on why the GoA refused to implement these proposals.

One cannot argue for free movement betwen the two sides on the basis of 'Tribe' and then say that we need to restrict movement. If we are not checking everyone, and monitoring and restricting movement in some fashion across the board, then we might as well not monitor anything.

havnt we gone over this on numerous occasions. when musharraf proposed these they were shot down as being un-feasible, un-realistic and will divide the pashtun nation. and now the war in afghanistan is un-winnable.
 
havnt we gone over this on numerous occasions. when musharraf proposed these they were shot down as being un-feasible, un-realistic and will divide the pashtun nation. and now the war in afghanistan is un-winnable.

Indeed we have, but in the context of Task Force Black's comments of better coordination in search and seizure, how can that be effective when we aren't even implementing basic border control and ID restrictions?

It seems more of an effort from NATO/GoA to pass the buck onto Pakistan (Pakistan needs to do more) rather than implement some pretty basic measures on the border first.
 
Tribal Lashkar had killed 13 proxy Taliban in Bajaur today.

whereas the local administration has asked all the Afghan refugess to vacate the area withing 24 hours.
 
Fighting Taliban, Pakistan finds itself at war
By Jane Perlez and Pir Zubair Shah

Friday, October 3, 2008
PESHAWAR, Pakistan: War has come to Pakistan, not just as terrorist bombings, but as full-scale battles, leaving Pakistanis angry and dismayed as the dead, wounded and displaced turn up right on their doorstep.

An estimated 250,000 people have now fled the helicopters, jets, artillery and mortar fire of the Pakistani Army, and the assaults, intimidation and rough justice of the Taliban who have dug into Pakistan's tribal areas.

About 20,000 people are so desperate they have flooded over the border from the Bajaur tribal area to seek safety in Afghanistan.

Many others are crowding around this northwest Pakistani city, where staff members from the United Nations refugee agency are present at nearly a dozen camps.

No reliable casualty figures are available. But International Committee of the Red Cross flew in a special surgical team from abroad last week to work alongside Pakistani doctors and help treat the wounded in two hospitals, so urgent has the need become.

"This is now a war zone," said Marco Succi, the spokesman for the International Committee of the Red Cross.

Not since Pakistan forged an alliance with the United States after 9/11 has the Pakistani Army fought its own people on such a scale and at such close quarters to a major city. After years of relative passivity, the army is now engaged in heavy fighting with the militants on at least three fronts.

The sudden engagement of the Pakistani Army comes after months in which the United States has heaped criticism, behind the scenes and in public, on Pakistan for not doing enough to take on the militants, and increasingly took action into its own hands with drone strikes and even a raid by Special Operations forces in Pakistan's tribal areas.

But the army campaign has also unfolded as the Taliban have encroached deeper into Pakistan proper and carried out far bolder terrorist attacks, like the Marriott Hotel bombing on Sept. 20, which have generated fears among the political, business and diplomatic elite that the country is teetering.

Fighting on Three Fronts

In early August, goaded by the American complaints and faced with a nexus of the Taliban and Al Qaeda that had become too powerful to ignore, the chief of the Pakistan military, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, opened the front in Bajaur, a Taliban and Qaeda stronghold along the Afghan border.

Earlier this summer, the military became locked in an uphill fight against the militants in Swat, a more settled area of North-West Frontier Province that was once a middle-class ski resort. Today it is a maelstrom of killing.

"Swat is a place of hell," said Wajid Ali Khan, a minister in the provincial government who has taken refuge in Peshawar. Khan said he was so afraid that he had not been to his house in Swat for a month.

At a third front, south of Peshawar, around the town of Dera Adam Khel, the army recently recaptured from Taliban control the strategic Kohat tunnel, a road more than a mile long that carries NATO supplies from the port of Karachi to the American and coalition forces in Afghanistan.

The new president of Pakistan, Asif Ali Zardari, spoke in New York during a visit to the United Nations General Assembly, about how the fight against terrorism was Pakistan's war, not America's.

But even as the gruesome effects of the battles slam the national consciousness, there has been scant effort to prepare the public for the impact of the fighting. Public opinion has soured on Pakistan's alliance with the United States and has strongly opposed military campaigns that inflict heavy civilian casualties.

Pakistani law enforcement officials and residents of Bajaur and Swat say there have been many civilian deaths, but so far, no agency or government body has offered an estimate of those killed.

Hanging in the balance in the fighting is the allegiance of the civilians who have seen their homes wrecked, their cattle and crops abandoned, and their loved ones killed and wounded.

Pakistani Army commanders have said that in order to put down the Taliban, the government must win the hearts and minds of the Bajaur tribesmen.

Losing Hearts and Minds

But in interviews in the camps, and in villages around Peshawar where the displaced are bunking with relatives, many of the people of Bajaur say they are fed up with both sides of the conflict.

In the Red Cross hospital ward, two young brothers, Haseen Ullah, 5, and Shakir Ullah, 8, lay immobile on their hospital beds, their limbs tightly bound in white bandages covering what Dr. Daniel Brechbuhler, a Red Cross surgeon, said were shrapnel wounds.

The father of the two wounded boys, Hajji Sher Zaman, a relatively well-to-do used-car dealer in Bajaur, said he had no patience with the Taliban.

But Zaman said he was furious with the government for not holding anyone responsible for the killing and wounding of civilians.

"In Bajaur, innocent people are being killed as infidels, the dead cattle are lying on the road, the roads are tainted with the blood of the people who have been killed," he said. On return trips in recent weeks, he said, his village was "full of the rotten smell of dead animals."

"Why not target the real people, the administration knows where they are," Zaman said.

In another ward, Amin Baacha, 13, lay with only one arm, his right one had been amputated. An army helicopter had circled his family's pickup truck as they were fleeing their village and fired on them, the boy said.

An Insurgent Sanctuary

At a briefing at army headquarters in Rawalpindi on Monday, the military said it believed that Fakir Mohammed, the leader of the Taliban in Bajaur, had taken sanctuary in the neighboring Mohmand district. Another important commander, an Afghan Taliban, Qari Ziaur Rehman, had moved back to Afghanistan, it said.

From their side of the fighting in Bajaur, the Taliban have mounted a brutal show of intimidation, aided by money and deep support from across the border in Afghanistan and Mohmand, according to interviews with the displaced and with law enforcement and military officials.

Recently, the Taliban leader, Mohammed, stormed into a gathering of tribal leaders, arriving in a convoy of 20 vehicles, said Habib-ur Rehman, a trader from Bajaur who now lives in a camp for the displaced in Timergara in the district of Dir, just outside Bajaur.

Mohammed, who is described by the army as one of the most skilled Taliban tacticians, told the tribesmen "I'm here to get you to stop the meeting. If you don't stop, you will have a coffin over your heads,' " Rehman recalled.

The Taliban were well financed, some of the displaced tribesmen said.

In Koz Cinari, in Mohmand, the Taliban gathered nightly with a fleet of up to 100 double-cabin pickup trucks, according to a resident of Koz Cinari who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.

The vehicles were carefully caked in mud for camouflage against possible sightings from government planes, with only a patch of clear glass in front for the driver. The convoys then crossed into Bajaur with men and weapons, the resident said.

Foreign languages pierced the nighttime air as the vehicles were prepared, the resident said.

According to the military officials at the briefing on Monday, many of the Taliban fighters come from Central Asia
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In Swat, the Pakistani Army has been fighting the Taliban for more than two months, and still the Taliban hold the upper hand, according to accounts from people who have fled the area.

Reports of Taliban terrorism are widespread.

In one case, scores of Taliban fighters confronted Iqbal Ahmed Khan, the brother of Waqar Khan, a member of the provincial assembly. The fighters ordered Khan, who was with two of his sons, to choose the son he wanted killed, said the president of the Awami National Party, Senator Asfandyar Wali.

After Khan was humiliated into choosing one son, the Taliban killed both boys, Khan and seven servants, Wali said.

On Thursday a suicide bomber blew himself up at Wali's home, killing four people and narrowly missing Wali, one of the best-known politicians in North-West Frontier Province and a national figure.

Life in a Battle Zone

Many residents of Swat say they are exasperated by the army-imposed round-the-clock curfew that keeps them indoors listening to the scream of jets and the thud of artillery.

To increase the misery, the Taliban blew up the power grid last week, and when protesters gathered in the main street of Mingora, the police fired on them, killing six people.

More than 140 girls schools have been destroyed by the Taliban in the last several months.

In a typical technique to raise funds, the militants ordered the shopkeepers in the mall in the town of Matta to stop paying rent to the landlord, and pay the militants instead.

"There is no light, no gas, no water, no food," Khan said.

Despite all the distress of the civilians, "only two Taliban commanders have been killed," he said. "The army has its strategy, but they don't explain."

The one hope in the gloom of war, said civilians and law enforcement officials, has been the formation of small private armies by tribal leaders, known in the region as lashkars.

They have traditionally served as a way of dealing with squabbles in Pakistan's tribal society, but are now being formed in some cases to stand up to the Taliban.

Forming Tribal Armies

In Salarzai, in the northern corner of Bajaur, a local private army has attracted several thousand anti-Taliban fighters, said Jalal-Uddin Khan, a tribal leader.

But whether the fervor of the tribesmen and their ancient equipment can be a match for the ideological zeal, modern weaponry and sophisticated tactics of the Taliban is an open question.

In other places, like Dir, just outside Bajaur, these private armies have pledged to keep both the Pakistani Army and the Taliban from entering their territory.

"Where the army comes, the Taliban come," said Sher Bahadar Khan, a tribal leader from Upper Dir. His community had organized a militia and persuaded the army not to put up checkpoints. The army was of little comfort because when the Taliban killed civilians, soldiers stood by as a "silent spectator," he said.

Closer to Peshawar, in the village of Shabqadar, where the Taliban have held sway for months, the local police organized civilians to join them in a display of force against the militants.

The Taliban had terrorized women who did not wear the burqa, and killed men they deemed as "pimps" and threw their bodies in the river.

The police chief of North-West Frontier Province, Malik Naveed Khan, said he had encouraged the new police chief in Shabqadar to organize a "popular movement."

Last week, about 500 people, led by the local police chief, marched toward a fort controlled by the Taliban in Shabqadar, Khan said.

A 15-hour battle ensued, leaving nine Taliban fighters dead and 28 wounded, the police chief said. On the government side, one man was killed, and five wounded, he said.

In revenge, the Taliban threatened to blow up Warsak Dam, the main water supply for Peshawar. But Khan said he was not deterred. He would not back down. "I told the governor: 'Open many fronts. We are more than them.' "
 
Troops kill 25 Taliban in Bajaur

Thursday, 02 Oct, 2008

KHAR: Troops backed by artillery killed 25 Taliban militants in the latest clashes in the troubled tribal district of Bajaur on the Afghan border, officials said Thursday.

Gunbattles erupted overnight and continued until late Thursday after militants attacked security checkposts in four villages in the restive region, a security official told AFP.

'There were fierce clashes and we have reports of 25 militants being killed' in the villages of Rashakai, Tang Khata, Bai Cheena and Khazana, the official said on condition of anonymity.
There was no way to independently verify the toll.

Separately, the local government has ordered Afghan refugees in Bajaur to leave the area within three days, a government official told AFP.
There are an estimated 70,000 Afghan refugees in Bajaur, who have been living there since the late 1970s after fleeing the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.


The Pakistani military says more than 1,000 militants have been killed since it launched its offensive in Bajaur in early August, including al-Qaeda's operational commander in the region, Egyptian Abu Saeed al-Masri.
 

2008-10-03

 ISLAMABAD, Oct. 3 (Xinhua) -- Pakistan has asked Afghan refugees in a tribal region to leave the area in three days, the News Network International (NNI) news agency reported Friday.

The refugees were asked to leave the Bajaur tribal region bordering Afghanistan but the authorities did not give any reason for the repatriation, said the report.

Security forces have been fighting militants in Bajaur and the authorities believe that elements among the Afghan refugees are supporting the militants, according to NNI.

Pakistan has already closed down all refugees camp in Bajaur but thousands of refugees are still living in rented houses.

An order signed by deputy chief of the local administration Haseeb said that action would be taken against the Afghan refugees if they failed to leave the area by the deadline.

The order also asked the local tribesmen to vacate houses and shops given to the Afghan refugees on rent.

The NNI quoted local people as saying that Afghan refugees had started leaving Khar, the center of Bajaur before the deadline was passed.
 
Analysis by Abbas Rashid

The grim struggle going on in Bajaur appears critical. To some degree this development of tribal lashkars being mobilised may be the result of the growing travails the tribes had to put up with as a result of the presence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda in their midst

The Marriott hotel bombing in Islamabad a fortnight ago in which more than 60 innocent people lost their lives and the assassination attempt a day after Eid against ANP leader Asfandyar Wali Khan illustrates yet again that we are up against a ruthless enemy given to the indiscriminate use of terror to achieve its objectives.

It is a spill-over of the disastrous wars of the Bush administration in Iraq and Afghanistan. But imposed or otherwise, it is a fight that we cannot now avoid. If the US stays with its current strategy it will eventually lose the war but in the process of doing so it can critically undermine Pakistan.

We do not have to fight the Bush administration’s ‘war on terror’ but we do need a carefully calibrated strategy of counter-insurgency in FATA and counter-terrorism across the country to meet this gravest of challenges within. In FATA and the NWFP, the internally displaced, desperate to escape the crossfire, may already number as high as 250,000. It is imperative that their needs be addressed on an emergency basis — and not just by the government.

There is an important shift in policy that should have come much earlier but is now taking place. With mixed success, as in the recent US visit of President Asif Zardari, the government is trying to make it clear to the US that their intrusions across the border are adding to the gravity of the crisis. There have been reported incidents of US soldiers and helicopters crossing the border from Afghanistan being fired at, as well as NATO supplies being stopped by Pakistani authorities for a short period.

To what extent this US administration or the next one listens to the message will also depend on the obverse: the government’s effort and success in ensuring that the tribal agencies are not used for launching attacks into Afghanistan against the US and Coalition forces. The sooner these forces leave Afghanistan the better; but meanwhile, we need to protect our sovereignty from the US as well as from the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

But how do we fight this war within? The military has to play a key role in the initial phase and serve as a back-stop over the long term. Better intelligence and policing with a massive infusion of development funds must follow the ongoing operations. The use of air power needs to be sharply reduced. Even more so at time when we have the key development of local tribesmen taking up arms to drive out militants from their areas.

“The tribesmen have risen against the militants. It could be a turning point in our fight against militancy,” says Owais Ghani, governor of the North West Frontier Province. Over the last few days such reports have multiplied. Fortunately the political as well as the military leadership appear to be in sync on the issue of increasingly according a leadership role to the tribal elders and supporting the tribes’ efforts to rid their areas of militants.

The grim struggle going on in Bajaur appears critical. To some degree this development of tribal lashkars being mobilised may be the result of the growing travails the tribes had to put up with as a result of the presence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda in their midst. In part it could be a consequence of the latter’s harsh creed and ruthlessness, not accompanied by any effort to help the local population with health or education or any other welfare service.

It should be pointed out though that estimates of routing the enemy in a period of two to three months appear extremely optimistic. In Bajaur, which is seen as a key arena of conflict, the mobilisation of tribal lashkars can be seen as a big step forward. Equally, it must be noted, that the ranks of the militants are getting beefed up by militants crossing over from Afghanistan as well as from other tribal agencies.

The effort by the political and the military leadership to enhance Pakistan’s ability to face up to the challenge also means that it now seeks to review the previous agreement apparently allowing for limited US action on this side of the border. However, it seems the US favours a policy of continuing to target the Taliban and Al Qaeda on Pakistan’s side of the border to keep the leadership on the run so that they cannot organise an attack on the US on the eve of elections.

This policy runs the risk of countering the strategy of separating the militants from the Pashtun nationalist or even the broader nationalist sentiment in Pakistan. A recent BBC poll in 23 countries found that a large majority of Pakistanis did not see Al Qaeda in a negative light.

It may well be that the response has much more to do with expressing resentment over the role of the US than a fondness for the Taliban or Al Qaeda. Surely we would have had very different results in the recent elections if that were not the case and if people actually favoured the philosophy and practice of the militants.

At the very minimum, however, the poll makes clear that there can be no broad support in Pakistan for a US-led war. As such, the US would have to minimise its intrusions in FATA and subsequently its presence in Afghanistan. Also, in the context of this rationale, it makes eminent sense for the Pakistan military to increasingly support the tribes’ resistance rather than lead the effort against the militants.

Further, the US needs to review its policy of not sharing intelligence with Pakistan. The change of guard in the ISI should also serve to reassure the US that its complaints of leaked intelligence are being seriously addressed by the country’s leadership.

A recent report by the RAND Corporation, one of the leading US think tanks, also criticises the notion of a war on terror arguing that intelligence and police cooperation should be key features of the US strategy to counter the terrorist activities in the region. And it argues that the US should rely much more on local military forces to police their own countries, which “means a light US military footprint or none at all”.

It would be useful for the incoming US administration to take a close look at this report.
 

2008-10-03

 ISLAMABAD, Oct. 3 (Xinhua) -- Pakistan has asked Afghan refugees in a tribal region to leave the area in three days, the News Network International (NNI) news agency reported Friday.

The refugees were asked to leave the Bajaur tribal region bordering Afghanistan but the authorities did not give any reason for the repatriation, said the report.

Security forces have been fighting militants in Bajaur and the authorities believe that elements among the Afghan refugees are supporting the militants, according to NNI.

Pakistan has already closed down all refugees camp in Bajaur but thousands of refugees are still living in rented houses.

An order signed by deputy chief of the local administration Haseeb said that action would be taken against the Afghan refugees if they failed to leave the area by the deadline.

The order also asked the local tribesmen to vacate houses and shops given to the Afghan refugees on rent.

The NNI quoted local people as saying that Afghan refugees had started leaving Khar, the center of Bajaur before the deadline was passed.

this is a good move but implementation is a must - no lip service or change of heart by the provincial govt. please!!!
 
The move comes little too late, they should have been forced back to Afghanistan the day US troops landed there.
 
“The tribesmen have risen against the militants. It could be a turning point in our fight against militancy,” says Owais Ghani, governor of the North West Frontier Province. Over the last few days such reports have multiplied. Fortunately the political as well as the military leadership appear to be in sync on the issue of increasingly according a leadership role to the tribal elders and supporting the tribes’ efforts to rid their areas of militants.

this needs to be co-ordinated properly and i hope it is, otherwise the army and the tribals could work at cross-purposes and we can have a disaster on our hands. e.g. tribals and army operating in same area and the tribals could be mistaken for militants (God forbid)
 
FINALLY! I've always figured that the "tribesmen" were lukewarm in their fight against these foreign based Taliban types. It took them what 6.5 years to get their gear together? 1000+ dead pakistani soldiers later? Or did they finally get the amount of money they wanted?
 
The move comes little too late, they should have been forced back to Afghanistan the day US troops landed there.

FENCE THE BLOODY BORDER. we are spending billions in expenses to operate our army in the FATA. find the money and the political WILL to do this job but unfortunately the frontier govt of ANP will not support this as they still harbour dreams of a pashtun state.
 
I don't understand, why don't we roll in with tanks all over Bajaur?

Everyone 'innocent' must've fled the scene by now. Its the bad guys that remain.
 
That R not true ma frend, 2/3 of Bajour population R still there.
 

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