The arrival of Islam in Iran, and then Turkey

[Mirza Chusulla Toork]

There is a minority "Parsi" or Zorostrian community in India.

Had India not been there Parsis would have been wiped from the face of earth. India is the most benevolent mother.

In case the whole world turns against Islam one day to completely wipe it out from the face of the earth, I am sure it will be India that will still offer protection to Islam. Such is her Kindness and compassion.

 

[King Solomon]

Had India not been there Parsis would have been wiped from the face of earth. India is the most benevolent mother.

In case the whole world turns against Islam one day to completely wipe it out from the face of the earth, I am sure it will be India that will still offer protection to Islam. Such is her Kindness and compassion.

True. Zoroastrians were almost wiped out by the early Arab empires up till Abbasid. Islamic empires have acted very hostile to Zoroastrians only because they were the state religion of Sassanid empire. Often they were forced to convert to islam.

Persecution of Zoroastrians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

India, at present is the most secular and democratic country in South Asia. No wonder it is a combination of all kind of races and religion living together under one umbrella. I know, there are many haters, but then again there are a bunch of haters behind every successful entity. May India prosper.

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This post is about the persecution of Zorastrians by Arab empires. Posted by my friend vsdoc in another thread. A very emotional letter sent by the Emperor Yezdgird to Caliph Umer:

From: The Shhanshh (The King of Kings), the King of Persia and Beyond, King of many Kingdoms, King of Aryans and Non Aryans, King of Persians and many other races as well as Tzis (Persian term for Arabs, meaning robin Hound Dogs), Shhanshh of Persian Empire, Yazdgird III of house of Ssn.

To: Umar Ibn Al-Khatab, Khalifat of Tazi

In the name of Ahura Mazda, creator of Life & Wisdom. You in your letter wrote that you want to direct us towards your God, Allah O Akbar, without having the true knowledge of who we are & what do we worship!

It is amazing that you occupy the position of Khalifat (Ruler) of Tazis, yet your knowledge is the same as a lowly Tazi rambler, roaming in deserts of Tazistan (Arabia), & same as a desert tribal man!

"Little Man", you offer me to worship a united & single God without knowing that it has been thousands of years that Persians worship the mono God & they pray to him Five Times a day! In this land of culture & art this has been the normal path of life for years. When we established the tradition of hospitality & good deeds in the world & we waved the flag of "Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds" in our hands, you & your ancestors were roaming the deserts, eating Lizards for you had nothing else to feed yourselves & burying your innocent daughters alive (an old Arab tradition, cause they preferred male children to female)!

Tazi people have no value for God's creatures! You behead God's children, even the Prisoners of War, Rape Women, bury your daughters alive, attack the Caravans, mass murder, kidnap people's wives & steal their property! Your hearts are made of stone, we condemn all these Evil which you do. How can you teach us Godly Ways when you commit these actions?

You tell me to stop my Fire Worship! We, Persians see the Love of Creator & power of inventor in the light of Sun & warmth of Fire. Lights & Warmth of the Sun & Fire makes us see the light of truth & warmness our hearts to the creator & to one another.

It helps us to be kind to one another, it enlightens us & makes us to keep Mazda's Flame, alive in our hearts. Our lord is Ahura Mazda & it is strange that you people also, just discovered him & named him Allah O Akbar! But we are not the same as you, we are not in the same level as you. We help other human being, we spread love among humanity, we spread Good throughout the Earth, we have been spreading our culture but in respect for other cultures throughout the whole world for thousands of years, yet you in the name of Allah invade other men's land! You mass murder the people, create famine, fear & poverty for others, you create Evil in the name of Allah. who is responsible for all this catastrophe?

Is it Allah who commands you to murder, pillage & to destroy? Is it you the followers of Allah who do this in his name? Or is it both?

You have risen from heat of the deserts & burnt out infertile lands with no resources, you want to teach people the love of God by your military campaigns & the power of your Swords! You are Desert Savages, yet you want to teach urban people like us who lived in the cities for thousands of years, the love of God! We have thousands of years of culture behind us, a powerful tool indeed! Tell us? With all your military campaigns, barbarianism, murder & pillage in the name of Allah O Akbar, what have you taught to this Muslim Army? What knowledge have you taught the Muslim that you also insist on teaching it to non Muslim? What culture have you learned from your Allah, now that you want to force-teach it to others?

Alas, Oh Alas...... that today our Persian Armies of Ahura have been defeated from your recently Allah Worshiping Armies; Now, our people have to worship the same God, the same Five times a day, but forced by the sword to call him Allah & pray to him in Arabic, cause your Allah only understands Arabic! I suggest, you & your gang of bandits pack up & move back to your deserts where they are used to live. Take them back where they used to the burning heat of the sun, tribal life, eating Lizards & drinking Camel Milk. I forbid you to let your band of thieves loose in our fertile lands, civilized cities & our glorious nation. Don't turn these "beasts with hearts of stone" loose, to mass murder our people, kidnap our women & children, rape our wives & send our daughters to Mecca as slaves! Don't let them do these crimes in the name of Allah O Akbar, put a stop to your criminal behavior.

Aryans are forgiving, warm, hospitable, & decent people and everywhere they went, they have spread seeds of friendship, love, knowledge & truth; therefore, they shall not punish you & your people for your pirate ways & criminal acts. I beg you to remain with your Allah O Akbar in your deserts & do not move close to our civilized cities, for your believes are "Much Fearful" & your behavior is "Most Barbaric"!

signed,

Emperor Yazdgird III of Sasanid

- The Original copy of this letter (632 AD - 651 AD) is in London Museum - -

 

[vsdoc]

There are 2.5 million practicing Zoroastrians in the world today.

Of these, Parsi Zoroastrians, who call India their motherland (both Indian and expats), number around 150,000.

A much more recent wave from Iran to India, 200-300 years ago, are the "Irani" Zoroastrians. We lovingly call them the Iroons.

From what little I know, there are still a few hundred thousand practicing Zoroastrians in Iran today.

The remainder are spread across originally Zoroastrian countries like Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, etc.

The atash burns on. Bringing light wherever there is darkness.

Humata. Hukata. Havarshta.

Thank you India!

Jai Hind!

 

[Don Jaguar]

In case the whole world turns against Islam one day to completely wipe it out from the face of the earth, I am sure it will be India that will still offer protection to Islam. Such is her Kindness and compassion.

Now that's exaggeration.

 

[bindaas]

True. Zoroastrians were almost wiped out by the early Arab empires up till Abbasid. Islamic empires have acted very hostile to Zoroastrians only because they were the state religion of Sassanid empire. Often they were forced to convert to islam.

Persecution of Zoroastrians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I read somewhere that many Arabs still regret that they were unsuccessful in exterminating Persian language as they did with Coptic language.

 

[Mirza Chusulla Toork]

I read somewhere that many Arabs still regret that they were unsuccessful in exterminating Persian language as they did with Coptic language.

Not only that the Arabs also regret that they and thier illegitimate proxies were unsuccessful in completely bowing down India to its faith. Hence we see their illegitimate offsprings still burning with contempt and impotent rage and loud farting crazy stuffs like ghazwa-e-hind, parcham on lal quila and radio broadcast in India and so on...

 

[King Solomon]

Not only that the Arabs also regret that they and thier illegitimate proxies were unsuccessful in completely bowing down India to its faith. Hence we see their illegitimate offsprings still burning with contempt and impotent rage and loud farting crazy stuffs like ghazwa-e-hind, parcham on lal quila and radio broadcast in India and so on...

what's gazwa-e-hind? Heard it for the first time...

 

[Mirza Chusulla Toork]

what's gazwa-e-hind? Heard it for the first time...

The Arabs and their illegitimate offsprings have held a (laughable) long hidden desire of conquering India and converting it into total Islam.

 

[Android]

what's gazwa-e-hind? Heard it for the first time...

as far as i know its just some conspiracy theory by pakistanis that they will eventually capture india establishing islamic rule in sub continent and then they march to some place and meet jesus or whatever

 

[King Solomon]

The Arabs and their illegitimate offsprings have held a (laughable) long hidden desire of conquering India and converting it into total Islam.

as far as i know its just some conspiracy theory by pakistanis that they will eventually capture india establishing islamic rule in sub continent and then they march to some place and meet jesus or whatever

What the hell ?!!!

Seriously though, I would suspect it is a very good tool for extremist Mullahs to keep masses deluded.. I can't believe people have such thoughts. Funny indeed.

 

[Don Jaguar]

Seriously though, I would suspect it is a very good tool for extremist Mullahs to keep masses deluded.. I can't believe people have such thoughts. Funny indeed.

That's a hadees nothing to laugh about.

 

[King Solomon]

That's a hadees nothing to laugh about.

I don't want to start a religious debate here because such debates are always never ending. But Prophet Mohammed had absolutely NO knowledge of future whatsoever (18:110, 5:109, 46:9, 7:188, 6:50).

 

[Android]

S-19 just read this thread i bet you would die laughing at the mentality of several pakistani members here
http://www.defence.pk/forums/general-images-multimedia/167462-zaid-hamid-wagah-border.html

 

[bindaas]

what's gazwa-e-hind? Heard it for the first time...

In Hadith "Sunan an Nisai" (which was composed 300 years after Islam was founded), Ghazwa-e-Hind is mentioned as, "those people who will conquer Hind(India) and Sindh will be spared from hellfire".

So, it was given propaganda angle in Pakistan that Pakistanis will conquer India and hoist Pakistani flag on "Red Fort" in Delhi. Even mainstream politicians and army-personals in Pakistan fanfare this propaganda in Pakistan. To give strength to this propaganda, some more hypothetical hadiths were invented in recent years.

But most funny part is only Pakistanis talk about this propaganda that you won't see among other Muslims nations.

 

[Mirza Chusulla Toork]

But Prophet Mohammed had absolutely NO knowledge of future whatsoever

But Zaid Hamid does.