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Petra ? are you kidding me ? even a child knows Petra was nothing but a replica of the great Roman and Greek architecture, even Arab historians admit Greek - Roman architectural influences on nomadic Arabs ,the ones who build Petra ! Google it or read some books !


They look so Greek !!! :yahoo:

Greek and Roman architecture? they are so ancient EGYPTIANS.
Google it or read some books !
 
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The BE guy is right about Petra, though the style is copy'n'paste of Ancient Roman architecture to my eye, but regarding Egypt and stuff,
From genetic testing apparently King tut is related to more western Europeans than present day Egyptians.


yes Ancient Egyptians were mainly Eurasian, genetically

And those Arabs who were civillized were usually under influence of either Romans (i.e. Ghassanids and Nabataeans) or Persians (i.e. Lakhmids). Creators of Petra were Nabataeans, creaters of Arabic alphabet were Lakhmids of Hira, I also read somewhere the first poems in Arabic was by Lakhmids, etc.
 
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Why don't you say they were Persians or even Jews Lakhmids.
What about saying that Aramic language or the the Nile civilisation were also European or better yet were civilised by Persia before even the existence of Persia.
 
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Why don't you say they were Persians or even Jews Lakhmids.
What about saying that Aramic language or the the Nile civilisation were also European or better yet were civilised by Persia before even the existence of Persia.

I don't know what on earth are you talking about man. Here you go: Population history of Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia what I know is based on what I have read from there, if you know any source than has said anything else, I'd love to read that (seriously), I have nothing against other peoples. You are ridiculling what I said and don't say anything against the guy who are attributing the Ancient Egypt civilization to Arabs?! (the most ridiculous claim I've ever seen)

the Nile civilisation were also European or better yet were civilised by Persia before even the existence of Persia.
I guess you don't know so let me tell you, lots of Persepolis has been built by Egyption architectures. Eauropeans? Why on earth should I baselessly attribute anything to westerns?
Why don't you say they were Persians or even Jews Lakhmids.
Ok lets forget Lakhmids, but if you look through Arabs of Arabia for example, who unlike Ghassanids/Nabataens/etc were isolated by deserts and didn't have much relations with nearby nations, you'll see what I mean. Read my post here, this is Arabia in 10th century, not even before arrival of Islam:
www.defence.pk/forums/middle-east-a...apons-post3218640.html?highlight=#post3218640
and be sure I hate bashing other nations although I can easily do that since I know much about history of the region, and what I wrote in that thread was only because of the nasty BS comments against my country, and I hated to say them.
I don't if you are really an Arab, but anyhow, note that you should be proud of is post-Islamic era:tup: not a period that Arabs themselves call it the "Period of Ignorance".:tdown:
 
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I don't know what on earth are you talking about man. Here you go: Population history of Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia what I know is based on what I have read from there, if you know any source than has said anything else, I'd love to read that (seriously), I have nothing against other peoples. You are ridiculling what I said and don't say anything against the guy who are attributing the Ancient Egypt civilization to Arabs?! (the most ridiculous claim I've ever seen)


I guess you don't know so let me tell you, lots of Persepolis has been built by Egyption architectures. Eauropeans? Why on earth should I baselessly attribute anything to westerns?

Ok lets forget Lakhmids, but if you look through Arabs of Arabia for example, who unlike Ghassanids/Nabataens/etc were isolated by deserts and didn't have much relations with nearby nations, you'll see what I mean. Read my post here, this is Arabia in 10th century, not even before arrival of Islam:
www.defence.pk/forums/middle-east-a...apons-post3218640.html?highlight=#post3218640
and be sure I hate bashing other nations although I can easily do that since I know much about history of the region, and what I wrote in that thread was only because of the nasty BS comments against my country, and I hated to say them.
I don't if you are really an Arab, but anyhow, note that you should be proud of is post-Islamic era:tup: not a period that Arabs themselves call it the "Period of Ignorance".:tdown:

The Arabs called that period "the period of ignorance" for everyone including the Persians ,Egyptian Pharaohs and Jews and Christians alike, since none of these people followed the simple rules of goodness; the whole known world at that time was mostly at permanent wars and permanent promiscuity.
The Arabs: 60 000 years of existence or might be 120 000 years (you can google it, those are the latest findings of the science of archaeology.)
Apart from that here is something else:

I don't know what on earth are you talking about man. Here you go: Population history of Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia what I know is based on what I have read from there, if you know any source than has said anything else, I'd love to read that (seriously), I have nothing against other peoples. You are ridiculling what I said and don't say anything against the guy who are attributing the Ancient Egypt civilization to Arabs?! (the most ridiculous claim I've ever seen)


I guess you don't know so let me tell you, lots of Persepolis has been built by Egyption architectures. Eauropeans? Why on earth should I baselessly attribute anything to westerns?

Ok lets forget Lakhmids, but if you look through Arabs of Arabia for example, who unlike Ghassanids/Nabataens/etc were isolated by deserts and didn't have much relations with nearby nations, you'll see what I mean. Read my post here, this is Arabia in 10th century, not even before arrival of Islam:
www.defence.pk/forums/middle-east-a...apons-post3218640.html?highlight=#post3218640
and be sure I hate bashing other nations although I can easily do that since I know much about history of the region, and what I wrote in that thread was only because of the nasty BS comments against my country, and I hated to say them.
I don't if you are really an Arab, but anyhow, note that you should be proud of is post-Islamic era:tup: not a period that Arabs themselves call it the "Period of Ignorance".:tdown:

The Arabs called that period "the period of ignorance" for everyone including the Persians ,Egyptian Pharaohs and Jews and Christians alike, since none of these people followed the simple rules of goodness; the whole known world at that time was mostly at permanent wars and permanent promiscuity.
The Arabs: 60 000 years of existence or might be 120 000 years (you can google it, those are the latest findings of the science of archaeology.)
Or better yet, just go through the two first posts of this thread.
 
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Population history of Egypt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Egypt has experienced several invasions during its history. However, these do not seem to account for more than about 10% overall of current Egyptians ancestry when the DNA evidence of the ancient mitochondrial DNA and modern Y chromosomes is considered. While Ivan van Sertima argue that the Egyptians were primarily Africoid before the many conquests of Egypt diluted the Africanity of the Egyptian people,[24] other scholars such as Frank Yurco believe that Modern Egyptians are largely representative of the ancient population, and the DNA evidence appears to support this view.[25]
 
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Archaeologists Unearthed Village Dating Back to 11 Thousand Years in Southern Syria

Syria (Swaida) - The small village unearthed in the archaeological site of Tel Qarasa (hill) in the west of Swaida province, dating back to around 11000 years constitute a clear example of the first models of urban life in the prehistoric times.

The excavations of the Syrian-French archaeological mission conducted at the site over the last two years showed that Qarasa region knew human presence in the form of tiny villages of 8 round houses whose inhabitants depended on fishing and growing cereal crops and wild fruits for their living.

Wasim al-Shaarani, Head of Swaida Archaeology Department, said the discovered houses indicate that the human groups in the area were fully civilized as they knew the cereal farming and cattle raising.

"The presence and settlement of humans in this region was made possible by the existence of Qarasa Spring which feeds a small lake in the middle of the area," added al-Shaarani in a statement to SANA, noting that the village left the place and moved to the northern mound since about 4000 BC.

Human settlement in the southern mound of Qarasa village started since nearly 2500 BC. The inhabitants then participated in the building of the first cities in the area and the human settlement in the village continued till 200 BC.

Qarasa village was in touch with all the big cities in the region such as the cities of Labwa, Kherbat al-Ambashi and Jawa, in addition to those spreading along Wadi al-Ordon, Golan and Erbid area.

Al-Shaarani pointed out in the statement that before about 650 years of the present time, a collection of beautifully-shaped houses with 1,5 m walls still in good condition inside which a set of earthenware was found.

During excavation works, he added, weapons, agricultural tools made of flint and bone, small puppets and skeletons were found in a big room in one of the discovered houses, showing an advanced level of symbolic culture of the people of the region.

Architectural remains of about 2 m thick basalt walls and various constructions from the Bronze Age were also uncovered in the excavations.

The archaeological survey of the region singled out 4 phases of human settlement dating back to the period between the Final Neolithic period and the Late Bronze Age.

The archaeological findings unearthed in the southern area are being studied by specialists at Swaida National Museum to try to document the periods of time they go back to.

The report of the Syrian-French mission said the excavations have revealed 522 archaeological sites in al-Lajat region from the ancient historical periods of the 7th millennium BC, among which was Tel Qarasa.

Through the archaeological atlas of the prehistoric sites located in southern Syria, the mission has already documented 923 cases of isolated houses from the Iron Age including Qaras site. (SANA)

Global Arab Network | Archaeologists Unearthed Village Dating Back to 11 Thousand Years in Southern Syria | Travel
 
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The Golden Age of Islam (600 to 1600 AD) rescues the advances of classical civilisations after the fall of the Roman Empire.

Firearms technology develops rapidly and Egyptian soldiers are the first to use hand cannons and other small arms at the Battle of Ain Jalut in 1260.
 
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