The 13-Year Divide: India's Economy Looks Much Like China's in 2001

[Levina]

We just don't prefer authoritarian form of government and think democracy is the way to go, even if it is slow.

Slow and steady wins the race isnt it??
Ppl forget the rabbit and tortoise's story so often.

 

[Beidou2020]

In democracy, people have option to change the government. In authoritarian, they don't. If somehow government turns out to be good, country develops, otherwise not. A bad democratic governance still gets development, albeit slow - India, Pakistan as you pointed out. A bad authoritarian like NK stagnate any growth.



No, type of system doesn't guarantee success. This is what I am pointing out.

This was your statement. I am just pointing out that all forms of government work.

And no, Indians don't think democracy automatically help it develop. Many Indians do respect Chinese form of government, as it gets things done. We just don't prefer authoritarian form of government and think democracy is the way to go, even if it is slow.

But India will never ever catch up to China let alone surpass China with your system of governance compared to Chinese governance. East Asians in general are better at governance than other Asians. Thats why nearly all the developed economies with high living standards in Asia are East Asian.

India can have its slow and inefficient democracy (Indian democracy is dreadfully slow and inefficient compared to Western democracy), but with that means India will ALWAYS be a junior power to China.

This is why people saying India will surpass China are delusional. You might not think democracy automatically helps India develop, but many Indians do believe this.

I would much rather have high standard of living than having the ability to vote. Vote for who? corrupt politicians that never deliver? No thanks.

It's takes time for democracy to mature and yield results, it's not instant coffee but you won't understand. Freedom and empowerment are worth 10x to economic development but again you won't understand

With Indian form of democracy, nothing will ever change. Don't hold your breath.

I'd much rather have food to eat, schools for education, jobs to earn money and toilets than ability to brag about nothing.

Indians talk too much and deliver very little. This is one of the major problems of Indians. Chinese talk less and deliver more. Indians are far too much into religion than the Chinese too. Chinese don't allow religion to hamper their development. Religion means everything to an Indian.

 

[Fireurimagination]

With Indian form of democracy, nothing will ever change. Don't hold your breath.

I'd much rather have food to eat, schools for education, jobs to earn money and toilets than ability to brag about nothing.

Indians talk too much and deliver very little. This is one of the major problems of Indians. Chinese talk less and deliver more. Indians are far too much into religion than the Chinese too. Chinese don't allow religion to hamper their development. Religion means everything to an Indian.

Indians are damn optimistic about their future with the Indian form of democracy, we are growing and developing yes the potential is immense and pace may be slow but we will do it our way. We don't long to be China or US for that matter of fact, we want to be 'India'. You may be happy with your authoritarian government take my word for it we won't be it's just not our culture. Yes religion has significance in India but we are not obsessed

 

[Beidou2020]

Indians are damn optimistic about their future with the Indian form of democracy, we are growing and developing yes the potential is immense and pace may be slow but we will do it our way. We don't long to be China or US for that matter of fact, we want to be 'India'. You may be happy with your authoritarian government take my word for it we won't be it's just not our culture. Yes religion has significance in India but we are not obsessed

You don't want to be like China?

Every Indian media outlet, every Indian leader is pretty much about China this, China that.

 

[Levina]

But India will never ever catch up to China let alone surpass China with your system of governance compared to Chinese governance. East Asians in general are better at governance than other Asians. Thats why nearly all the developed economies with high living standards in Asia are East Asian.

India can have its slow and inefficient democracy (Indian democracy is dreadfully slow and inefficient compared to Western democracy), but with that means India will ALWAYS be a junior power to China.

This is why people saying India will surpass China are delusional. You might not think democracy automatically helps India develop, but many Indians do believe this.

I would much rather have high standard of living than having the ability to vote. Vote for who? corrupt politicians that never deliver? No thanks.



With Indian form of democracy, nothing will ever change. Don't hold your breath.

I'd much rather have food to eat, schools for education, jobs to earn money and toilets than ability to brag about nothing.

Indians talk too much and deliver very little. This is one of the major problems of Indians. Chinese talk less and deliver more. Indians are far too much into religion than the Chinese too. Chinese don't allow religion to hamper their development. Religion means everything to an Indian.

You must be nefelibata!
How could you ignore the poverty stats of China??
who doesnt know that China has had a lopsided development?
Its easy to turn a blind eye at the poor from your country and point at the poverty in India.But dont forget India's poverty and inclusive growth record is much better than China's, and levels of poverty in the two countries are not very different.
China's efficiency for the decade 1999 to 2010 was around -0.3 that is for each 10 per cent growth, poverty in China was reduced by 3 percentage points.For the same period India had efficiency-inclusive index of 0.6, twice the level observed in China. 10 per cent growth in average consumption reduces poverty in China by 0.3 percentage points, in India by 0.74 percentage points.
The capacity of China to continue absorbing a larger share of the global consumer goods markets is becoming increasingly limited, with other emerging markets, including India, aggressively competing for a share.

 

[Beidou2020]

You must be nefelibata!
How could you ignore the poverty stats of China??
who doesnt know that China has had a lopsided development?
Its easy to turn a blind eye at the poor from your country and point at the poverty in India.But dont forget India's poverty and inclusive growth record is much better than China's, and levels of poverty in the two countries are not very different.
China's efficiency for the decade 1999 to 2010 was around -0.3 that is for each 10 per cent growth, poverty in China was reduced by 3 percentage points.For the same period India had efficiency-inclusive index of 0.6, twice the level observed in China. 10 per cent growth in average consumption reduces poverty in China by 0.3 percentage points, in India by 0.74 percentage points.
The capacity of China to continue absorbing a larger share of the global consumer goods markets is becoming increasingly limited, with other emerging markets, including India, aggressively competing for a share.

I don't need to see a bunch of stats to see that India is dreadfully slow and inefficient compared to China.

China is the world's 2nd largest consumer market (goods and services).

 

[Fireurimagination]

You don't want to be like China?

Every Indian media outlet, every Indian leader is pretty much about China this, China that.

We surely want to grow at 10% and have world-class infrastructure but the media or any Indian surely doesn't want themselves gagged and their @sses censored

 

[Levina]

I don't need to see a bunch of stats to see that India is dreadfully slow and inefficient compared to China.

China is the world's 2nd largest consumer market (goods and services).

Lol
The question is how long will you be able to hang on to that position??
Indian democracy, may offer a more sustainable long-term economic model than Chinese Communism.
Why did Hong kong have a pro democracy march recently??
It wont be long when ppl in other parts of china would also start revolting against the government
.Communism wont stay for long.

 

[Beidou2020]

Lol
The question is how long will you be able to hang on to that position??
Indian democracy, may offer a more sustainable long-term economic model than Chinese Communism.
Why did Hong kong have a pro democracy march recently??
It wont be long when ppl in other parts of china would also start revolting against the government
.Communism wont stay for long.

There is a much higher probability of Indians revolting than Chinese due to Indians having no food to eat and rape epidemic.
India's failed democracy has already failed.

China is moving way ahead of India its not even close

We surely want to grow at 10% and have world-class infrastructure but the media or any Indian surely doesn't want themselves gagged and their @sses censored

I'd much rather be censored than not being able to eat and worrying about the female members of my family being gang raped and hung on trees.

@ mods
I was merely responding to this troll talking about censorship and gagging and revolting and said there is a much higher probability of Indians revolting due to the specific reasons.

 

[xuxu1457]

On one side chinese are saying that comparision is not possible as India will have to chart its own path...........and on the other hand those with BUTT HURT is saying we have to compare china and India

USD inflation is minimal unlike other currency.

Earlier only the US, europe & japan invested in China.

Today the US, Europe, Japan AND CHINA will invest in India so everything and MORE is possible

During the past 10 years, the top area invested in China is Hongkong, Taiwan and Singapore， accord for 60% of whole investment to China. Another word is : 60% of them come from abroad Chinese,
Just as in 2012, FID to China is 113billion $, inwhich 65.6billion $ from Hongkong, 6.3billion $ from Singapore, 2.8billion $ from Taiwan, 0.5billion $ from Macau, they accord for 66% FID to China; and 3 billion$ from South Korea, 7.3billion $ from Japan, 6.2billion $ from EU, 2.5billion $ from USA, total FID from Japan\US\EU is 16billion $, accord for 14% FID to China.
India should attract more abroad Indian to invest back

 

[Levina]

There is a much higher probability of Indians revolting than Chinese due to Indians having no food to eat and no toilets and the rape epidemic.
India's failed democracy has already failed.

China is moving way ahead of India its not even close



I'd much rather be censored than not being able to eat and having no toilet and worrying about the female members of my family being gang raped and hung on trees.

Post reported for bringing banned topics into discussion....repeatedly.
Topics banned on PDF

 

[Beidou2020]

Post reported for bringing banned topics into discussion....repeatedly.
Topics banned on PDF

Can't counter my facts as the truth hurts your ego so you run to the mods

 

[Fireurimagination]

le investment to China. Another word is : 60% of them come from abroa

There is a much higher probability of Indians revolting than Chinese due to Indians having no food to eat and rape epidemic.
India's failed democracy has already failed.

China is moving way ahead of India its not even close



I'd much rather be censored than not being able to eat and worrying about the female members of my family being gang raped and hung on trees.

@ mods
I was merely responding to this troll talking about censorship and gagging and revolting and said there is a much higher probability of Indians revolting due to the specific reasons.

Failed democracy??? We are world's biggest and most vibrant one and you speak as if there is no poverty, crime or other shit in China, damn you are still a developing country. So you have all the shit plus you are gagged and censored. Nobody in their right mind will trade their freedom with anything but as I said you won't understand

 

[possumlot]

You know Beidou2020 has already admitted he is not Chinese right?

So your argument fails.

Beidou might not be chinese but there have been plenty others and you know it. Anyway since he was a troll my reply was specifically for him.

I don't have any ill will towards china so chill out.

Fine but don't come here claiming India will surpass China.
Enjoy defecating in the open if that's what you want

LOL, why not ? India will surpass china. There, I have said it. Now go cry in a corner

Are you delusional enough to go around granting permission to people to do whatever they want to do ? ..... did you grant permission to Obama to be president of the US too ?

 

[possumlot]

During the past 10 years, the top area invested in China is Hongkong, Taiwan and Singapore， accord for 60% of whole investment to China. Another word is : 60% of them come from abroad Chinese,
Just as in 2012, FID to China is 113billion $, inwhich 65.6billion $ from Hongkong, 6.3billion $ from Singapore, 2.8billion $ from Taiwan, 0.5billion $ from Macau, they accord for 66% FID to China; and 3 billion$ from South Korea, 7.3billion $ from Japan, 6.2billion $ from EU, 2.5billion $ from USA, total FID from Japan\US\EU is 16billion $, accord for 14% FID to China.
India should attract more abroad Indian to invest back

I am expecting 1 Trillion $ worth of Investment from the world into India in the next 5 years. That is around 1000 Billion $. 300 Billion of which will come from China. 400 Billion from the US. A 100 Billion $ from Indians routing back black money, 200 billion from the rest of the world. Let us wait and watch. The game has just started and you are in a hurry to score the final tally.